Which DJ's are know for PURE mixing: Who's the badman?

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Post by dj slums » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:15 pm

UFO over easy wrote:you don't own the thread just because you made it, and your over-reactions are rude :)
chef wrote:Bro, I used to have dusty Kam's for years until I was 16 because mum werent paying for 1210's.
I'd mix like a don on Kam's, go round my mates yard and nearly pull a muscle just trying to slow the platter down because it was so strong and then i'd feel like a tnuc because it just werent working like it did in my bedroom day in day out.
haha, I swear though, mixing on technics 100% of the time now, there's no going back. can't see myself changing, ever really.
you're damn right. still paying mine off now after a few years! lol
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Post by auralassassin » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:22 pm

dj slums wrote:you're damn right. still paying mine off now after a few years! lol
well worth it though. :wink:
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Post by thomas e. griffin » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:25 pm

In Dubstep, N-Type is top bwoy in my humble opinion. Fast and slick and wicked selection.

Aural assassin, you need to calm down man. It's a bit of a strange thread for a dubstep forum anyway. If you want to talk about who's the best deejay in all kinds of music then go and post in the 'other music' section. And don't get so agro when people aren't answering your specific question.

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Post by auralassassin » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:35 pm

thomas e. griffin wrote:In Dubstep, N-Type is top bwoy in my humble opinion. Fast and slick and wicked selection.

Aural assassin, you need to calm down man. It's a bit of a strange thread for a dubstep forum anyway. If you want to talk about who's the best deejay in all kinds of music then go and post in the 'other music' section. And don't get so agro when people aren't answering your specific question.
If I was asking about track selection, it would be great that someone helped me with that--but people are too dense to answer a simple question and it's really quite rediculous. It's like answering a YES OR NO question with a Maybe... fucks sake, thats not what I asked, is it?

Q: Who is the best Technical DJ?

A: Has anyone heard about how Keith Richards is doing?

Really quite absurd, ain't it?

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Post by cb_db » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:35 pm

Parson wrote:pitch doesn't increase when you get to the inside of the record what are you talking about
It's been a while since I took physics, but I believe the term is centripetal acceleration.

The change is slight, but it is there. This is why when using vinyl we have to constantly ride the pitch. Am I wrong? Or once everyones pitch is matched, you're locked in for the rest of the mix? Short mixes don't really count because there is not enough of a difference when you're only playing a short portion of the record.

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Post by auralassassin » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:36 pm

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Parson wrote:pitch doesn't increase when you get to the inside of the record what are you talking about
It's been a while since I took physics, but I believe the term is centripetal acceleration.

The change is slight, but it is there. This is why when using vinyl we have to constantly ride the pitch.
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Post by a_k47 » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:42 pm

the djs who are merkin it right now for me is

underground ice

heny. g

n-type

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Post by parson » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:44 pm

if the plate is cut at constant speed it will play back at constant speed

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Post by jack sparrow1 » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:47 pm

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Post by unlikely » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:48 pm

cB_dB wrote:
Parson wrote:pitch doesn't increase when you get to the inside of the record what are you talking about
It's been a while since I took physics, but I believe the term is centripetal acceleration.

The change is slight, but it is there. This is why when using vinyl we have to constantly ride the pitch. Am I wrong? Or once everyones pitch is matched, you're locked in for the rest of the mix? Short mixes don't really count because there is not enough of a difference when you're only playing a short portion of the record.
I wondered about this once but surely the process by which laquers are cut on a lathe would account for the change in speed? Not 100% tho. This is a much more interesting point to ponder tho :D

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Post by parson » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:58 pm

the information is crammed into a smaller space at the center of the record but it won't change the speed its playing

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Post by cb_db » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:33 pm

The equation still remains, I think.

centripetal acceleration:

ac=v^2/r

Acceleration equals velocity (speed the turntable is spinning ) squared, divided by the radius. the radius has to be figured by where the needle is sitting on the record. Outside/beginning of the record = 6inches. The closer you get to the center, the smaller the radius becomes. When you divide the velocity by the smaller radius this increases the acceleration. Once again, the changes are slight, but as the math is telling me, it's there.

I could be dead wrong here, but using physics, it makes perfect sense.

Sorry to take the thread off on a tangent.

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Post by thomas e. griffin » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:43 pm

I'm with Parson on this. I know what you're saying about the equation, but in reality. If I beat match a song perfectly with a click of my computer (as I sometimes do, to record it so as to be matched with something else) I don't then have to adjust the pitch again.

The platter is alsways spinning at the same speed no matter where the needle is. I think the 'centripedal acceleration' (or whatever it is) will only work if something is spun round attached to a central point and then brought in towards the center. Like an iceskater doing a spin.

Anyway best not get too far off topic before aural assassin tells me off again.[/i]

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Post by sully_shanks » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:54 pm

cB_dB wrote:The equation still remains, I think.

centripetal acceleration:

ac=v^2/r

Acceleration equals velocity (speed the turntable is spinning ) squared, divided by the radius. the radius has to be figured by where the needle is sitting on the record. Outside/beginning of the record = 6inches. The closer you get to the center, the smaller the radius becomes. When you divide the velocity by the smaller radius this increases the acceleration. Once again, the changes are slight, but as the math is telling me, it's there.

I could be dead wrong here, but using physics, it makes perfect sense.

Sorry to take the thread off on a tangent.
i got a an E in a level physics, so equations like that are a bit hazy in my mind, but as parson says, it would be cancelled out by the fact that the same thing happens during the cutting....

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Post by djshiva » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:36 pm

DJs I have heard thus far that really impress me:

Christine Vaccine - super clean mixes, key matching and insane composition. Her August 2006 and February 2007 mixes are at the top of my favorites list.

Grievous Angel - his mixes are creative, well composed, and the subtle use of effects just accentuate the music

Youngsta - double copies...BAM on point. energy!!! i like cutting and double copy action! the crossfader is there for fun as well as for the utilitarian purpose of sliding over to the next tune.

N Type - have heard some damn fine buildups into a track drop (either using eq or effects or both) that just stunned me. that's the way i like it done. the DJ should accentuate the intensity of the drops, not just let the track do all the work.

Moldy- clean mixes, great track selection...just solid all 'round.

Whoa B - Chicago style!! Tight mixes. Knows when to let shit ride and when to just let it drop.

there are a few more, but i am at work, so...can't brain, got the dumb
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Post by kidlogic » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:01 pm

sully_shanks wrote:
cB_dB wrote:The equation still remains, I think.

centripetal acceleration:

ac=v^2/r

Acceleration equals velocity (speed the turntable is spinning ) squared, divided by the radius. the radius has to be figured by where the needle is sitting on the record. Outside/beginning of the record = 6inches. The closer you get to the center, the smaller the radius becomes. When you divide the velocity by the smaller radius this increases the acceleration. Once again, the changes are slight, but as the math is telling me, it's there.

I could be dead wrong here, but using physics, it makes perfect sense.

Sorry to take the thread off on a tangent.
i got a an E in a level physics, so equations like that are a bit hazy in my mind, but as parson says, it would be cancelled out by the fact that the same thing happens during the cutting....
Beat me to it, but this is the answer. There is a slight acceleration, but since the same thing happens in the cutting process it it canceled out. In fact the first version of the Serato Control Vinyls forgot to take this into account mp3s were speeding up twards the end of the vinyl, which they called "Pitch Drift", they had to come out with a second version of the plate that took it into account.

And I have to agree with Parson on the CDJs although for a different reason. I dont look at the BPM counter either, since when I started there werent any and it didnt matter to me, so I touch the platter alot on my Techs. The problem I have with the Pio CDJs anyway is that the platter doesnt move, so when I go to adjust just a little bit as if I were dragging a finger on the side of the platter, I sometimes throw the whole thing out of whack. Thats why I prefer Serato.

Best Technical DJ..? From what Ive heard of dubstep djs, N-type and Plastician... locally, Unit, KnifeDreams, actually most dubstep djs from LA hold it down... other styles - DJ Rectangle and Z-Trip, Frankie Bones, Hawtin, Doc Martin, MarkEG, Mark N, Jazzy Jeff... I could go on for ever

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Post by 4linehaiku » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:45 pm

auralassassin wrote:Q: Who is the best Technical DJ?
If you mean in dubstep, then Youngsta.
If you mean in any genre, you're in the wrong forum.

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Post by ajantis_art » Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:10 am

i like dubstep

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Post by scaramanga » Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:44 am

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Post by unlikely » Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:21 am

have to agree with all of scaramangas selection there, with the addition of SCIENTIST, HENY G, UG ICE, JON RUST and ONEMAN. The last 2 especially dont make things any easier for themselves, some of the broadest selection I've heard and still completely in control. Big up them man.

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