story of brostep

[pkay]

im not acting elitist, im just proving a point, many parts of the US have a different idea of what dubstep is

im not talking about a test or anything like that, im just showing how the exposure is placed in the US. for whatever reason people in the states have a much better chance of stumbling upon datsik and skrillex rather than loefah and other UK artists pushing the roots of dubstep

just throwin this out there. But possibly because they are from north america and not the UK?

what im getting at is, if you were to show the teenagers dubstep by mala and others in proper context (big sound system) before they listened to skrillex lets say, theirs a much better chance that the sub heavy sound would be much more popular than it is now in the US.

completely untrue. dub/reggae/garage hasnt been as critical to the US music scene as it was to the UK scene. Mala/dmz/etc all touch on a sound that is a bit more carved of UK influences that are not apparent in the united states.... the same way hip hop was carved from funk/soul music that the uk simply cannot touch on like the US can thus explaining the different sounds between hip hop/grime. Skrillex does well to north american ears because its carved of influence that north america relates to... right now all things electro house are massive. His sounds are blatantly of that vein and that is the reason young people identify with it. You could very well call it 140bpm electro-house if you wanted to ease your mind.. Mala doesn't do as well (for the north american masses) because his sound is not carved from a sound most north americans pick up on. You and I may dig it but if you're trying to impress a teenager, ie someone born after 1990, your odds of them picking up on influences they can relate to are slim and fucking none.

Regardless I don't understand this need for people to force their musical views on someone. It's the same ignorant attitude that has our world in ruin in regards to politics and religion. Religious nuts think that if they heard about their god they'd turn from the one they were initially drawn to. If they heard about their political views they'd turn from their own.

It's all done out of fear. stop

[rinseballs21]

im not acting elitist, im just proving a point, many parts of the US have a different idea of what dubstep is

im not talking about a test or anything like that, im just showing how the exposure is placed in the US. for whatever reason people in the states have a much better chance of stumbling upon datsik and skrillex rather than loefah and other UK artists pushing the roots of dubstep

just throwin this out there. But possibly because they are from north america and not the UK?

what im getting at is, if you were to show the teenagers dubstep by mala and others in proper context (big sound system) before they listened to skrillex lets say, theirs a much better chance that the sub heavy sound would be much more popular than it is now in the US.

completely untrue. dub/reggae/garage hasnt been as critical to the US music scene as it was to the UK scene. Mala/dmz/etc all touch on a sound that is a bit more carved of UK influences that are not apparent in the united states.... the same way hip hop was carved from funk/soul music that the uk simply cannot touch on like the US can thus explaining the different sounds between hip hop/grime. Skrillex does well to north american ears because its carved of influence that north america relates to... right now all things electro house are massive. His sounds are blatantly of that vein and that is the reason young people identify with it. You could very well call it 140bpm electro-house if you wanted to ease your mind.. Mala doesn't do as well (for the north american masses) because his sound is not carved from a sound most north americans pick up on. You and I may dig it but if you're trying to impress a teenager, ie someone born after 1990, your odds of them picking up on influences they can relate to are slim and fucking none.

Regardless I don't understand this need for people to force their musical views on someone. It's the same ignorant attitude that has our world in ruin in regards to politics and religion. Religious nuts think that if they heard about their god they'd turn from the one they were initially drawn to. If they heard about their political views they'd turn from their own.

It's all done out of fear. stop

its not only because they are from the US. its because the teenagers in America caught on to dubstep way way later than most other countries in Europe, Magnetic Man for example were selling out festivals in Europe way back in 2007.........they are barely making their first US appearance in 2011. i understand its hard to catch on to something thats taking place thousands and thousands of miles away though.

i guess your right in a sense that its only the American producers who are pushing brostep at all really except for borgore. but all the people here hopping on the bandwagon find out about the music through only one source, youtube. so inherently nobody can be blamed except for the tunes up that don't have millions of views that you have to scroll down to find.


its whatever im not trying to force shit on anyone, lets just hope coachella does some good for the scene out here

[pkay]

its not only because they are from the US. its because the teenagers in America caught on to dubstep way way later than most other countries in Europe, Magnetic Man for example were selling out festivals in Europe way back in 2007.........they are barely making their first US appearance in 2011. i understand its hard to catch on to something thats taking place thousands and thousands of miles away though.

Why are you so concerned with what teenagers are doing? If teenagers were in love with magnetic man and they played your city 5 nights a week, you'd still be hanging out with a bunch of teenagers and the show would suck for a number of other reasons.

UK and US are two entirely different countries. We've never been on the exact same page when it comes to music.

[thecosmicrain]

I guess I got lucky that my introduction to dubstep was through Burial's s/t album.

I pretty much never tell anyone that I listen to dubstep anymore...they just start talking about Bassnectar Datsik Skrillex etc. Bass music ftw.

[dBTPuse]

Idk what you pretentious oldfags are complaining about, you still have your chilled out DUB to listen to, and you still have you're bandwagon approach to hating things just because something went mainstream, come out with a more massive tune than Heavy Artillery or even Station Six and I will bow down before you. It's a completely different approach to music and I'm not gonna lie, I love them both, but when I pay money to go see a show, I want to tear the fuckin place up having huge hits in my face the whole time and feel the vibe. I can listen to chilled out shit as long as I want at home. BY THE WAY!!!! YOU BETTER PAY ATTENTION TO THIS! Bitches in America absolutely LOVE dubstep. Pick another name other than Brostep, because it only applies in your areas where your beezes don't know how to get down. And no, I don't even roll, I'm not a raver kid. I go to dubstep shows blazed and that's it. Keep in mind, raver kids and emofags ruin everything. (fuck skrillex)

[NickUndercover]

Idk what you pretentious oldfags are complaining about, you still have your chilled out DUB to listen to, and you still have you're bandwagon approach to hating things just because something went mainstream, come out with a more massive tune than Heavy Artillery or even Station Six and I will bow down before you. It's a completely different approach to music and I'm not gonna lie, I love them both, but when I pay money to go see a show, I want to tear the fuckin place up having huge hits in my face the whole time and feel the vibe. I can listen to chilled out shit as long as I want at home. BY THE WAY!!!! YOU BETTER PAY ATTENTION TO THIS! Bitches in America absolutely LOVE dubstep. Pick another name other than Brostep, because it only applies in your areas where your beezes don't know how to get down. And no, I don't even roll, I'm not a raver kid. I go to dubstep shows blazed and that's it. Keep in mind, raver kids and emofags ruin everything. (fuck skrillex)

I agree with you really but hate's going on on both ends... You will admit that a GREAT MAJORITY (not all people, i know that) of people asking where the wubwubs are when a Mala track is posted somewhere, don't even know what a proper bass sounds like and therefore judge that track as namely "gay, boring", say there's "no talent involved"... I have screenshots if you want..

[Sheff]

I think the problem is that people don't actually understand dubstep. If you play like a Mala track which emphasizes on the sub bass through your laptop speakers then play some Brostep tearout shit which one is going to sound more interesting to the average listener? The Mala track would probably sound boring and the novelty of the "filth" would probably be enough to hold their interest for a while.
I'm sure if you first ever heard dubstep on a massive sound-system it would be a different story. The tearout just sounds like some horrible ear-piercing alien sounding shit, and you can physically feel a proper sub-bass orientated dubstep track. That's how I see it anyway. The world would be a better place if everyone owned a subwoofer.
But don't watch the biased opinion...It's all about personal taste and that's the bottom line.

[dBTPuse]

I guess I was lucky enough to always have fat subs

[strunkdts]

this elitest shit needs to go. there's no test you have to pass to enjoy music.

right on.

[infinity]

Idk what you pretentious oldfags are complaining about, you still have your chilled out DUB to listen to, and you still have you're bandwagon approach to hating things just because something went mainstream, come out with a more massive tune than Heavy Artillery or even Station Six and I will bow down before you. It's a completely different approach to music and I'm not gonna lie, I love them both, but when I pay money to go see a show, I want to tear the fuckin place up having huge hits in my face the whole time and feel the vibe. I can listen to chilled out shit as long as I want at home. BY THE WAY!!!! YOU BETTER PAY ATTENTION TO THIS! Bitches in America absolutely LOVE dubstep. Pick another name other than Brostep, because it only applies in your areas where your beezes don't know how to get down. And no, I don't even roll, I'm not a raver kid. I go to dubstep shows blazed and that's it. Keep in mind, raver kids and emofags ruin everything. (fuck skrillex)

Is this post really obnoxious and annoying or is it just me. If you talk like this in real life i'd think you sound like a massive twat.

[cpt.pollution]

more massive tune than Heavy Artillery or even Station Six and I will bow down before you.

where your beezes don't know how to get down.

Two part question:
A) Who are those songs by i've never even heard of them
B) wtf is a beeze

[Knuckl3s]

beezes = Bitches (just to clarify)

when i found dubstep (brostep), it was at a time where i completely disliked rap music because of its terrible lyrics (mainstream).
so i turned to something with less lyrics, and brostep was that genre. i love it, because i get to listen to something that focuses on the production of a track and not the crappy lyrics that go over it. albeit, some tracks have great lyrics, but no good rap song these days has a nice bass-y beat and decent lyrics. its rare.

to me, i feel that most brostep artists actually put time and effort into the tracks that they make unlike many hip-hop artists, which get fed lyrics, rap styles, and horrible instrumentals after one hit single.

so all-in-all, being from the u.s., i would much rather say im a brostepper than categorize myself with the crowds that line up to see "gucci mane" or "nicki minaj" (if you havent heard of them, look them up). and thats why i listen to the genre. it filters out a lot of the crap that is upbeat american music.

[rob sparx]

rob sparx thats bollocks. Brostep isn't more mainstream at all it's infact less inclusive. I Need Air and Katy On A Mission is mainstream. Getting in the charts is actually mainstream.

Didn't say it was mainstream but dubstep as a whole is a lot more mainstream than some ppl would like it to be, what a lot of ppl in the uk term brostep isn't that at all its the more cheesy/filthy/hype variety of dubstep (as opposed to digital heavy metal) which if not being played much on daytime radio is definately being supported by djs with those chart hits and its not to crowds full of sweating moshing men its big student gigs and festivals etc a far more mainstream (and female) crowd than was the case 5 years ago

Mabeye there's big raves in US/CA where its like a heavy metal concert but that's not what I see in the UK, sure there are smaller UK nights where the bro tag is spot on but that goes for any extreeme music whether its filth or deep minimal subby dubstep or death metal/breakcore/IDM whatever only differences are the reaction of the crowds - you might not get sweated on or elbowed in a club full of chinstrokers but its still a club full of men isn't it? Just get a faint whiff of hypocrisy from some of the uk whiners on here who probably don't go out much anyway

[SGN]

Idk what you pretentious oldfags are complaining about, you still have your chilled out DUB to listen to, and you still have you're bandwagon approach to hating things just because something went mainstream, come out with a more massive tune than Heavy Artillery or even Station Six and I will bow down before you. It's a completely different approach to music and I'm not gonna lie, I love them both, but when I pay money to go see a show, I want to tear the fuckin place up having huge hits in my face the whole time and feel the vibe. I can listen to chilled out shit as long as I want at home. BY THE WAY!!!! YOU BETTER PAY ATTENTION TO THIS! Bitches in America absolutely LOVE dubstep. Pick another name other than Brostep, because it only applies in your areas where your beezes don't know how to get down. And no, I don't even roll, I'm not a raver kid. I go to dubstep shows blazed and that's it. Keep in mind, raver kids and emofags ruin everything. (fuck skrillex)

Is this post really obnoxious and annoying or is it just me. If you talk like this in real life i'd think you sound like a massive twat.

Nah, it's highly obnoxious, much like the genre of music he's defending. I guess he likes to perpetuate stereotypes.

[dBTPuse]

I wanna hear some of this groundbreaking UK stuff that's keeping you guys so disgusted with what's happening in the US/CA. How about someone replies with some names or labels?

[Majin]

So basically from all the posts I ever read on this subject, the deep heads are upset that their favorite style of dubstep is overshadowed by another style, so they want to create a new name for the other style to justify the stuff they prefer. On the other hand, the tear-out fans don't care either way because their style already gets all the attention and is what most people think of when they hear the term 'dubstep'. What a pickle. I say leave it alone.

[PFC]

UK and US are two entirely different countries. We've never been on the exact same page when it comes to music.

This pretty much sums it all.

[subsainsikizm]

Wow the complete ignorance of this thread has really
Pissed me off. What really defines dubstep? What defines brostep? So called brostep is just a natural progression And IMO a fukin good one. Imagine if hip hop never progressed we would still be listening to mc fukin hammer

[DJSmileys]

heh....... it kinda hard to hear this.... Man i love Datsik, Bassnectar, Flux Palivilion, All those "hype,tearout, brostep" artist. I love Heavy Metal, i love something thats going to blow my brain out the side of my skull and thats what dubstep is all about to me.


:/


i dont see whats up with the hate? I love Deep dub as well, cant we all just get along ?

[Omega Dub]

Regardless I don't understand this need for people to force their musical views on someone. It's the same ignorant attitude that has our world in ruin in regards to politics and religion. Religious nuts think that if they heard about their god they'd turn from the one they were initially drawn to. If they heard about their political views they'd turn from their own.

It's all done out of fear. stop

my thoughts exactly.