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Re: the situation in egypt

Post by pkay » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:49 am

noam wrote:^^^^

but the protests in Egypt seem clearly in aid of more progression, not regression

there's been no rhetorical spiel about western influence AT ALL. as a country a large part of their economy is tourist based. it is just speculation on my behalf but i'd guess they (as a whole) would want an increase in liberal, western influence. not the other way around.
the problem is when there is political shakeup the people don't always gain more control. These protests may be in the name of progress but could ultimately cause regression. The billions of dollars being lost and the damage done amongst political parties won't lead to progression. The intent is not always the result.

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Re: the situation in egypt

Post by nowaysj » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:01 am

noam wrote:they (as a whole) would want an increase in liberal, western influence. not the other way around.
I had the pleasure to meet and date some egyptian college students in my youth. I have to say their personal habits were beyond liberal. They left western sexual norms, in the dust.
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Post by Motorway to Roswell » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:41 pm



American dimplomatic car running down 20 - 30 peoplein Cairo.
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Post by clifford_- » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:37 pm

:o

How the fuck can they get away with that?!?!
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Re: the situation in egypt

Post by apmje » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:46 pm

Motorway to Roswell wrote:

American dimplomatic car running down 20 - 30 peoplein Cairo.
Thats horrific. If it had to be anyone though, it'd totes be the Americans.

No offence to anyone! :D:

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Post by -dubson- » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:27 pm

apmje wrote:
Motorway to Roswell wrote:

American dimplomatic car running down 20 - 30 peoplein Cairo.
Thats horrific. If it had to be anyone though, it'd totes be the Americans.

No offence to anyone! :D:
He/whoever was driving better get put down for that, horrendous.

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Post by jameshk » Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:34 pm

-dubson- wrote:
apmje wrote:
Motorway to Roswell wrote:

American dimplomatic car running down 20 - 30 peoplein Cairo.
Thats horrific. If it had to be anyone though, it'd totes be the Americans.

No offence to anyone! :D:
He/whoever was driving better get put down for that, horrendous.
Thats disgusting, they deserve to be shot!
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Post by pkay » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:15 pm

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent ... ploma.aspx

The US embassy in Cairo has denied the involvement of one of its diplomatic cars in the accident that led to the deaths of several protesters.

In a statement distributed to the media, the embassy said that non of the embassy’s cars or employees were involved in the accident.

The statement said that several of the cars that belonged to the embassy were stolen on January 28 and investigations revealed that the cars have been used in criminal and violent acts.

A video of a diplomatic car running over several protesters has been making the rounds on the internet for several days.

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Post by Motorway to Roswell » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:29 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if it was stolen. I doubt a fully trained diplomatic vehicle driver would just plow through a crowd like that. It didn't look like they were attacking the car. Just obstructing the way.

The US wouldn't admit to it if it was an American though.
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Post by TSH-Tim » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:29 pm

''A video of a diplomatic car running over several protesters has been making the rounds on the internet for several days.'' WHAT ?
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Post by pkay » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:44 pm

TSH-Tim wrote:''A video of a diplomatic car running over several protesters has been making the rounds on the internet for several days.'' WHAT ?

it happened last week


In Afghanistan we had vehicles stolen all the time. Gotta imagine that the embassy has been fairly vacant for the past 2 weeks.

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Post by 64hz » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:46 pm

could easily be panic not malice

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Post by 64hz » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:47 pm

theres another video of a white van doing the same thing

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Post by TSH-Tim » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:48 pm

Gets worse by the day by the sounds of it
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Re: the situation in egypt

Post by bagelator » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:49 pm

So who was driving the van?

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Post by 64hz » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:52 pm

pro-mubarak supporters apparantly, they ran it into a crowd of anti-mubarak supporters.

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Post by nowaysj » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:16 pm

That was horrific.
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Re: the situation in egypt

Post by Ayatollah » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:34 am

even though the muslim brotherhood has been preaching democracy up until now, it was because that's the talk that benefitted them in the repressive dictatorship that Egypt is, and I think it's not at all unreasonable to be wary of the possibility of them radicalizing when they get free rein and power in their hands. It's kind of naïve to predict that Egypt with a powerful Muslim Brotherhood will end up like Turkey (a democratic muslim country). Egypt is not Turkey, they don't have the secular constitution, tradition and military that Turkey has and it's not unreasonable to fear that it might end up less like Turkey and more like Iran.

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Post by -dubson- » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:25 am

64hz wrote:could easily be panic not malice
No excuse for mowing down all those people whatsoever.

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Re: the situation in egypt

Post by Swissdub » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:35 am

that shit if fucked up.

i do that in grand theft auto and feel bad, this shit is real life, how do people bring themselves to do that.

someone curb stomp them

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