Why Do Dubstep Fans Hate Mainstream so Much?

[south3rn]

if it's industrial, promote it as industrial. no one needs you exploiting and raping dubstep so you can get a few more facebook friends. whatever name you've made will be forgotten in a few weeks. you'll give up defending yourself here.

please "lift" yourself to the top of a building and hop off.

[the-devo]

But if I wrote industrial in my sig i'd get like half the amount of plays

That explains everything.
I do mean everything.
Everything I talk about here:
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 4#p2232964

he's become the proof that he was lacking for his original argument. i looooove it.

What? In the thread I linked I wrote about how angering it is to hear brostep producers make songs that they label dubstep but are actually something completely different.
(Like the Borgore and 100DEADRABBITS comparison you can listen to in said thread)

I don't even know which one of us is misunderstood anymore.

[pkay]

dude the soad remix is the exact tempo it's supposed to be I dont give a rats ass what dubstep's tempo is. I realize the track isn't dubstep, it's industrial. But if I wrote industrial in my sig i'd get like half the amount of plays

what he meant is it's already at dnb tempo (180bpm, which is an octave of 90bpm) not dubstep tempo (140bpm)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/86230550ecca8fe4/

me taking your SOAD remix and mixing it with some dnb

[south3rn]

But if I wrote industrial in my sig i'd get like half the amount of plays

That explains everything.
I do mean everything.
Everything I talk about here:
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 4#p2232964

he's become the proof that he was lacking for his original argument. i looooove it.

What? In the thread I linked I wrote about how angering it is to hear brostep producers make songs that they label dubstep but are actually something completely different.
(Like the Borgore and 100DEADRABBITS comparison you can listen to in said thread)

I don't even know which one of us is misunderstood anymore.

i'm agreeing with you, devo. i'm saying danny became a perfect example of your argument.

[DannyLifted]

if it's industrial, promote it as industrial. no one needs you exploiting and raping dubstep so you can get a few more facebook friends. whatever name you've made will be forgotten in a few weeks. you'll give up defending yourself here.

please "lift" yourself to the top of a building and hop off.

Dude get out of your little fuckin box your sitting in. When I make music I make MUSIC. I take elements from everything. That soad remix has heavy metal, dubstep, (The heavy metal+Dubstep is what gives it the industrial vibe) and it has a hip hop influence. It's a hybrid track with a bit of everything which makes it so good...so I'll label it whatever the fuck I want

Putting Dubstep and System of a down in the same sentence only opens up the word "Dubstep" to new people who aren't normally looking for dubstep. They may then further look into the genre and find out about it's many sub genre's. So if anything Im helping the genre by taking dubstep roots, hip hop roots and heavy metal roots and blending it all together

[south3rn]

i can admit that my last sentence on that post was uncalled for.

but, you know nothing. i make all kinds of music too, dub techno, funky, hip hop, idm...whatever. but i don't label everything as dubstep. in fact i rarely "label" anything. but when i submit songs for a dubstep label, they're dubstep songs. i don't try to sell something that isn't dubstep as dubstep.

you don't understand, appreciate or respect dubstep. you'll find it hard to fit in here. not that you need to fit in here, but keep that in mind.

and i am rarely this aggressive on this forum. but you're complete lack of understanding/respect of dubstep, or industrial for that matter, has really pissed me off.

[DannyLifted]

dude the soad remix is the exact tempo it's supposed to be I dont give a rats ass what dubstep's tempo is. I realize the track isn't dubstep, it's industrial. But if I wrote industrial in my sig i'd get like half the amount of plays

what he meant is it's already at dnb tempo (180bpm, which is an octave of 90bpm) not dubstep tempo (140bpm)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/86230550ecca8fe4/

me taking your SOAD remix and mixing it with some dnb

thats a dope ass mix now i wanna make a drum n bass version of that track

[the-devo]

i'm agreeing with you, devo. i'm saying danny became a perfect example of your argument.

Alright, I got it.

[DannyLifted]

i can admit that my last sentence on that post was uncalled for.

but, you know nothing. i make all kinds of music too, dub techno, funky, hip hop, idm...whatever. but i don't label everything as dubstep. in fact i rarely "label" anything. but when i submit songs for a dubstep label, they're dubstep songs. i don't try to sell something that isn't dubstep as dubstep.

you don't understand, appreciate or respect dubstep. you'll find it hard to fit in here. not that you need to fit in here, but keep that in mind.

and i am rarely this aggressive on this forum. but you're complete lack of understanding/respect of dubstep, or industrial for that matter, has really pissed me off.

dude i've pressed up over 2,500 dubstep cd's full color with cover with tracks from datsik, chasing shadows, stenchman, myself, nero among others and given them all out for FREE. I've spent well over a grand in going to underground dubstep parties supporting by buying drinks, paying to get in and bringing my friends who had never heard of the shit. what in the FUCK have you done for dubstep other then make tracks in your room and pitch your "dubstep" songs to labels????????????????????????????????????

[illandnatti]

Putting Dubstep and System of a down in the same sentence only opens up the word "Dubstep" to new people who aren't normally looking for dubstep. They may then further look into the genre and find out about it's many sub genre's. So if anything Im helping the genre by taking dubstep roots, hip hop roots and heavy metal roots and blending it all together

Most certainly agree. Regardless of whether the song is "bad" or "good" it still pushes the genre.


"Why do we fall Master Wayne? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up."

New types of art go through constant phases of "failure" and of being horrible before they become gems. Dissing this man for his production is not what this thread is about. If he has a new idea let's praise him for it.

@Danny: I don't particularly like the song, not my style, however I do think it shows depth is a cool new idea, so good work . Never thought of industrial-esque dubstep before.

[the-devo]

dude i've pressed up over 2,500 dubstep cd's full color with cover with tracks from datsik, chasing shadows, stenchman, myself, nero among others and given them all out for FREE. I've spent well over a grand in going to underground dubstep parties supporting by buying drinks, paying to get in and bringing my friends who had never heard of the shit. what in the FUCK have you done for dubstep other then make tracks in your room and pitch your "dubstep" songs to labels????????????????????????????????????

Perhaps not biting the hand that feeds you could be the one thing that he has done and you haven't?

[south3rn]

i can admit that my last sentence on that post was uncalled for.

but, you know nothing. i make all kinds of music too, dub techno, funky, hip hop, idm...whatever. but i don't label everything as dubstep. in fact i rarely "label" anything. but when i submit songs for a dubstep label, they're dubstep songs. i don't try to sell something that isn't dubstep as dubstep.

you don't understand, appreciate or respect dubstep. you'll find it hard to fit in here. not that you need to fit in here, but keep that in mind.

and i am rarely this aggressive on this forum. but you're complete lack of understanding/respect of dubstep, or industrial for that matter, has really pissed me off.

dude i've pressed up over 2,500 dubstep cd's full color with cover with tracks from datsik, chasing shadows, stenchman, myself, nero among others and given them all out for FREE. I've spent well over a grand in going to underground dubstep parties supporting by buying drinks, paying to get in and bringing my friends who had never heard of the shit. what in the FUCK have you done for dubstep other then make tracks in your room and pitch your "dubstep" songs to labels????????????????????????????????????

was gonna type out what i've done for dubstep, but you're not worth the explanation.

[DannyLifted]

dude i've pressed up over 2,500 dubstep cd's full color with cover with tracks from datsik, chasing shadows, stenchman, myself, nero among others and given them all out for FREE. I've spent well over a grand in going to underground dubstep parties supporting by buying drinks, paying to get in and bringing my friends who had never heard of the shit. what in the FUCK have you done for dubstep other then make tracks in your room and pitch your "dubstep" songs to labels????????????????????????????????????

Perhaps not biting the hand that feeds you could be the one thing that he has done and you haven't?

are you implying that you feed me...????

[DannyLifted]

was gonna type out what i've done for dubstep, but you're not worth the explanation.

I dont doubt you've done for dubstep. *No Sarcasm

[south3rn]

shit got a little personal, but when you have as much time, effort, sweat and blood invested into this scene as many of us do it's hard when people don't see it the way we do, or the way we want them to. bottom line, lots of people aren't as passionate about it as we are, and many will follow the tide when dubstep isn't the "cool" thing anymore. still waiting for the tide to go out, it's stuck around a lot longer than previous fads.

[the-devo]

Perhaps not biting the hand that feeds you could be the one thing that he has done and you haven't?

are you implying that you feed me...????

1. You made an industrial track.
2. You labeled it dubstep to get attention.
-- People live according to the information they are fed.
3. You took away the attention from industrial.
4. You mislead dubstep fans into thinking that this is dubstep.
5. You used both industrial and dubstep to gain the attention that the gaping hole on your personality demands.
-- Biting both hands that feed you (industrial and dubstep)
7. This is not going to stop.

Being a producer who makes Eurodance/Crunk/Grime/Industrial/Drumstep/etc but labels it dubstep is just as bad as producers who take original songs, paste a repetitive wobble bass on top of them, and call 'em dubstep remixes. And we (the DSF) all hate that.

If you're that dependent of play counts, you simply don't respect music at all.

[Sexual_Chocolate]

[DannyLifted]

Perhaps not biting the hand that feeds you could be the one thing that he has done and you haven't?

are you implying that you feed me...????

1. You made an industrial track.
2. You labeled it dubstep to get attention.
-- People live according to the information they are fed.
3. You took away the attention from industrial.
4. You mislead dubstep fans into thinking that this is dubstep.
5. You used both industrial and dubstep to gain the attention that the gaping hole on your personality demands.
-- Biting both hands that feed you (industrial and dubstep)
7. This is not going to stop.

Being a producer who makes Eurodance/Crunk/Grime/Industrial/Drumstep/etc but labels it dubstep is just as bad as producers who take original songs, paste a repetitive wobble bass on top of them, and call 'em dubstep remixes. And we (the DSF) all hate that.

If you're that dependent of play counts, you simply don't respect music at all.

i think your looking a little too deep into it man. Your making it more then what it is

[the-devo]

i think your looking a little too deep into it man. Your making it more then what it is

I'm not mad exclusively at you. I'm mad at everyone who ruined dubstep.
We have reached a point where people who claim to be dubstep fans, prefer this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujmeEfnLfoQ which is basically two different songs
(a dance song and a trite dubstep song which sounds just like every other)
over anyting by Digital Mystikz, N-Type, Seven, The Others, Kromestar, Burial, etc

I would appreciate it if artists created different names for themselves which they could use for different styles to avoid confusion.
Why is it, that writers can write novels under fake names so that their crime stories would not be associated with their poems,
but brosteppers simply can't risk it? Sadly, because they'd immediately lose the attention they depend on.
Because it was dubstep that gave them fame, and not their actual talent.

[PFC]

You hungarian dude need to calm down a bit, I feel like you took over the goddamn forum, 90% of the comments I went through in the last 30 min were yours.Yes we all know there's brostep and there's dubstep and there's DMZ and Borgore and whatnot, everybody already know everything there is to know about that so enough, please. And just to add, opening a thread which includes some new information about a gig or an artist, even an appreciation thread is a 100 times more useful than writing countless idiotic thoughts on this idiotic thread which helps absolutely no one. If you guys want to talk about this, just scroll down and do it in one of the 2500 older threads named exactly like this, you don't always have to open a new one.