The Libya situation

[pkay]

apparently warplanes are bombing protestors in tripoli?



thats got to be the biggest overreaction to a riot ever right?

but par for the course. Sadam killed thousands on the reg for voicing disapproval. Dictators often rule by fear. Gadaffi has been known to do the same.

Not to belittle the situation but had brute force been used in egypt there's a chance they could have stunted the uprising. Iran, china, etc all do this on the reg.

Here's hoping this solution comes sooner than later. Bombing protestors is just insane

[wub]

Gadaffi did his usual batshit crazy stint last night appearing on TV holding an umbrella to say he wasn't in Venezuela. And nothing else.

[Basstronomer]

Gadaffi did his usual batshit crazy stint last night appearing on TV holding an umbrella to say he wasn't in Venezuela. And nothing else.

Apparently he's not, he's still in Tripoli
My question would be now that he's fucked, where is he gonna go? I mean, holding other countries by the balls doesn't mean you are best mates

[wub]

Gadaffi did his usual batshit crazy stint last night appearing on TV holding an umbrella to say he wasn't in Venezuela. And nothing else.

Apparently he's not, he's still in Tripoli
My question would be now that he's fucked, where is he gonna go? I mean, holding other countries by the balls doesn't mean you are best mates

I doubt there is any country in Europe/Africa/Middle East that would want him tbh. Mubarak may have been a corrupt bastard, but he was still relatively normal. Gadaffi is just a nutter.

[ghandi]

Mubarek's a bastard but it wasn't just about him and his family, he represented the Egyptian elite, who are hurting but still in charge. Which is why he's in Sinai. He lived a locked down life in Cairo anyway, now he's hidden away where there's no pollution.

Ben Ali was all about kith and kin, which is why he had to leg it. Gaddafi's the same but where's he gonna go? Finger's crossed it'll end like Ceausescu and Saddam:

[fretn]

""I have not yet ordered the use of force, not yet ordered one bullet to be fired ... when I do, everything will burn.""

Clearly a madman

[pkay]

tbh if he left seeking asylum I wouldn't be surprised if the whole berlin bombing/pan am flight 103 came roaring back up and dude got charged for crimes against humanity and what not.

The only thing that has protected him over the years is that he was a head of state and controlled a lot of information in his country. I'd wager once he's out of power (which will happen) and his reign is over with, the flood gates will open and we'll find people willing to spill the beans. If he's dead no biggy. If he's alive seeking asylum I couldn't imagine this not being addressed.

[fuagofire]

Aljazeera shows up the BBC, Sky and ITV.

http://english.aljazeera.net/

they allway's do.

[pkay]

minus that whole insane bias thing

[noam]

minus that whole insane bias thing

pot calling kettle

[pkay]

minus that whole insane bias thing

pot calling kettle

except im not a news station

[CoreyGoesRawr]

anyone else see the resemblance?


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068473/

[the acid never lies]

Aljazeera shows up the BBC, Sky and ITV.

http://english.aljazeera.net/

Only place worth looking at the moment

[wub]

He blamed the riots on young people and drug addicts. Genius.

[kidshuffle]

I doubt there is any country in Europe/Africa/Middle East that would want him tbh. Mubarak may have been a corrupt bastard, but he was still relatively normal. Gadaffi is just a nutter.

A nutter indeed. I ended up reading parts of the Green Book (his political philosophy) earlier today...and it felt like it was written by a Grade 12 kid who just discovered the facts that religion/capitalism are "bad". (arabic to english translations dont help either)

Domestic servants, paid or unpaid, are a type of slave. Indeed, they are the slaves of the modern age.

Since the new socialist society is based on partnership and not on a wage system, natural socialist rules do not apply to domestic servants because they render services rather than production. Services have no tangible material product and cannot be divided into shares according to the natural socialist rule.

Domestic servants have no alternative but to work for wages, or even be unpaid in the worst of situations. As wage-earners are a type of slave and their slavery exists as long as they work for wages, domestic servants, whose position is lower than that of wage-earners in economic establishments and corporations, have an even greater need to be emancipated from the society of wage-labour and the society of slaves.

Domestic servants is a phenomenon that comes next to slavery.

The Third Universal Theory heralds emancipation from the fetters of injustice, despotism, exploitation, and economic and political hegemony, for the purpose of establishing a society of all the people where all are free and share equally in authority, wealth and arms. Freedom will then triumph definitively and universally.

THE GREEN BOOK thus defines the path of liberation to masses of wage-earners and domestic servants in order that human beings may achieve freedom. The struggle to liberate domestic servants from their status of slavery and to transform them into partners, where their material production can be divided into its necessary basic components, is an inevitable process. Households should be serviced by their habitants. Essential household services should not be performed by domestic servants, paid or unpaid, but by employees who can be promoted in rendering their services and can enjoy social and material benefits as any other public employee would.

[kidshuffle]

After reading more of his book, he has a whole section about how sports are essential yet their shouldn't be pro sports teams (yet he owns 7.5% of Juventus)

Public sport is for all the masses. It is right of all people for their health and recreational benefit. It is mere stupidity to leave its benefits to certain individuals and teams who monopolize these while the masses provide the facilities and pay the expenses for the establishment of public sports. The thousands who crowd stadiums to view, applaud and laugh are foolish people who have failed to carry out the activity themselves. They line up lethargically in the stands of the sports grounds, and applaud those heroes who wrest from them the initiative, dominate the field and control the sport and, in so doing, exploit the facilities that the masses provide. Originally, the public grandstands were designed to demarcate the masses from the playing fields and grounds; to prevent the masses from having access to the playing fields. When the masses march and play sport in the centre of playing fields and open spaces, stadiums will be vacant and become redundant. This will take place when the masses become aware of the fact; that sport is a public activity which must be practised rather than watched. This is more reasonable as an alternative than the present costum of a helpless apathetic majority that merely watches.

[pkay]

Shit's going downhill fast.

Apparently Gadaffi is hiring foreign militants to come start shit..... and is somehow blaming bin laden for the uprising

[NickUndercover]

He's geniusly dumb

[pkay]

He's geniusly dumb

He's a bad stereotype of the middle eastern/north african dictator who thinks that portion of the world is still cut off from the rest.

Back in the 80's he'd say that and the rest of the region would believe it and Gadaffi would have support.

Reminds me of when the US invaded Iraq and the Iraq defense minister went on TV denying there were US troops in Iraq. These regimes have been in power for so long that they're seemingly shocked that their countries acess to the outside world have changed so much right under their noses.

[NickUndercover]

He's geniusly dumb

He's a bad stereotype of the middle eastern/north african dictator who thinks that portion of the world is still cut off from the rest.

Back in the 80's he'd say that and the rest of the region would believe it and Gadaffi would have support.

Reminds me of when the US invaded Iraq and the Iraq defense minister went on TV denying there were US troops in Iraq. These regimes have been in power for so long that they're seemingly shocked that their countries have changed so much right under their noses.

I think he's waaaaay more intelligent than he seems. imo he's already got an escape issue planned, somebody like him must have family in the emirates or shit like that... Being a fucking gigantic megaloman doesn't keep someone from being smart (cfr Hitler) and Gaddafi is probably that kind of person