what goes into making a "banger?"

filthy_ · Post by **filthy_** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:28 am

i know ≈140 bpm is a good tempo for almost anything but how does one make a track that feels so fast, violent and upbeat? with all the stuff ive written, ive heard theyre not bad but theyre not club bangers. stupid question, i know.

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:31 am

A good banger has energy & groove thats all really...

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:48 am

Percussion. Get it off the grid. Make subtle changes. Carefully placed and mixed ghost snares can help. All the latter can add energy to a track. As for "upbeat", a good melody is always a go-to for me. As for violent, dunno...guess some of those mad glitchy mid-range tear-out bass jobs? Keep it in a cage and poke it with a stick until it lives for blood?

therook · Post by **therook** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:13 am

pots and pans?

Dreadfunk · Post by **Dreadfunk** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:23 am

I know what you mean. Everything I make tends to be more "flowing" than "banging." I don't really know how to make songs have that drive. I suspect it may be in the percussion and timing, cause a lot of bangers are actually quite simple and even sparse.

I'd be interested in hearing some tips on this myself. I like to make music with more atmosphere, or emotion, but you need to have dance floor smashers too.

I guess the thing to do is load up tracks that you consider bangers into your DAW and analyze the crap out of them. Zoom in to the waveform and see what is hitting where at what time as you listen.

mattdesl · Post by **mattdesl** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:35 am

From what I've heard, heavy sidechain compression is pretty standard for a "banger" these days.

EDIT: of course... not saying you oughta rely on it

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:53 am

mattdesl wrote:From what I've heard, heavy sidechain compression is pretty standard for a "banger" these days.

EDIT: of course... not saying you oughta rely on it

Side-chain compression. Massive presets, kick drum rolls, 200hz snare drum, risers... bang Also you need a sample from a movie/rap/dancehall...

filthy_ · Post by **filthy_** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:55 am

abZ wrote:
mattdesl wrote:From what I've heard, heavy sidechain compression is pretty standard for a "banger" these days.

EDIT: of course... not saying you oughta rely on it
Side-chain compression. Massive presets, kick drum rolls, 200hz snare drum, risers... bang Also you need a sample from a movie/rap/dancehall...

i said make a banger, not sound like rusko

kebnoa · Post by **kebnoa** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:04 am

English Bangers

Banger Seasoning

* 5 teaspoon ground white pepper
* 2 1/2 teaspoon mace
* 2 1/4 teaspoon salt
* 2 teaspoon ground ginger
* 2 teaspoon rubbed sage
* 1/2 teaspoon nutmeg

Sausage

* 2 1/2 lb. boneless lean pork shoulder or loin cut in cubes
* 1 lb. fresh pork fat in cubes
* 1 1/2 cup dry bread crumbs
* 1 1/4 cup chicken broth
* 3 1/2 teaspoon Banger seasoning

Grind pork and fat together using plate of meat grinder.
Add Banger Seasoning and mix well.
Grind again.
Stuff mixture into casings and tie in 4-5 inch lengths.
This mixture will be too fine to form into patties.

Bake or sauté as you prefer.

good shit

Dreadfunk · Post by **Dreadfunk** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:17 am

Sometimes people forget that they are making dance music.

kebnoa · Post by **kebnoa** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:29 am

Dreadfunk wrote:Sometimes people forget that they are making dance music.

shit man i thought we were making sausages my bad

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:48 am

kick drum and love.

Mehlovich · Post by **Mehlovich** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:15 am

filthy_ wrote:i know ≈140 bpm is a good tempo for almost anything but how does one make a track that feels so fast, violent and upbeat? with all the stuff ive written, ive heard theyre not bad but theyre not club bangers. stupid question, i know.

For percussion/swing tings... http://futuregarageforum.com/viewtopic. ... dcefb689ef def worth a read

wub · Post by **wub** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:54 am

Danny Dyer saying "caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant" before the drop

arktrix45hz · Post by **arktrix45hz** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:06 am

Dreadfunk wrote:Sometimes people forget that they are making dance music.

This! The large majority of tunes that get me moving are usually the ones with minimal things going and a solid groove I can lock into.

serox · Post by **serox** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:35 am

filthy_ wrote:i know ≈140 bpm is a good tempo for almost anything but how does one make a track that feels so fast, violent and upbeat? with all the stuff ive written, ive heard theyre not bad but theyre not club bangers. stupid question, i know.

filling in the gabs will help give it pace. But to make it popular with DJs in clubs you will need a hook and it needs to be danceable.

Nacklewicket · Post by **Nacklewicket** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:43 am

complex (lots of different automation goion on), "quick" basslines. like come up with a really good & original sounding bassline loop. then rinse it as fuck!! drums could be really simple,but still must have energy.. make the drums fit the bassline.
cant stand some "bro" tunes that have neither a good sounding bassline or no repetition,just makes a fucking mess.

Lethargik · Post by **Lethargik** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:03 pm

KISS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNelGwlz_NU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvpgiiotL0U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mwL6R-Z1e4

Kes-Es · Post by **Kes-Es** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:13 pm

You're working with halftime drums, so if you want your track to have quickness, energy, and whatnot, whip up a powerful patch and make your bassline doubletime, use tiny breaks of silence to emphasize your groove and make it seem heavier.

Solid melodic elements that keep up throughout the track are how you build a hook, write a catchy riff, and milk it, then change the patch/sound, make minor alterations but don't throw it off too much or you'll lose the attention of the typical listener, make sure all your sounds sound like they're the same sound just different versions, not like you built two different synth patches and just put them together in one riff, but like the sound is mutating, and when they are obviously different, make sure they mesh sonically.

Also, Ham VST your whole track.

kebnoa · Post by **kebnoa** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:17 pm

Kes-Es wrote:Also, Ham VST your whole track.

shit that is so fucking obvious 18 reply's and only now

good people of dsf hang your heads in shame

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