How much would you actually spend on some new software?

[futures_untold]

If a killer new VST synth or effect arrived that you really liked the look of using, what price would you be willing to part with to support the developer?

I'm not talking Native Instruments, Steinberg or Propellerheads, I'm talking two mates in a bedroom coding that shit, catching buses and eating baked beans.

[Eradicouture]

I buy the stuff from NI and the other big boys, so I, personally, would be even more inclined to shell out the big bucks for two developers, just doing it because they love to do it and want to make some sick software, especially if it was good.

[futures_untold]

Damned, looks like one person is willing to pay more than me already lulz...

Dearest prog I ever bought was MS Project, and that was raping the student discount still.

[3za]

Depands on what the software can do for me?

For some thing simple I would say about £10-£30 depending on how good it is, and how often I would use at.

For something more complex, say up to £100, but only if it was original, sounded good, and I would use it in most of my tracks.

Atm I am not looking to spend a penny on software, because I am skint, and reaktor keeps my thirst for software away.

Edit just seen the poll voted £0-£25

[futures_untold]

Lol at yer avatar 3za

So periods of skintness aside, it sounds like you're an honest bloke at heart.

[honey-d]

yo hooo yoo hooo a pirate's life for meeee

EDIT: I'm going to laugh my ass off If i'm the only one to admit to pirating software. I bet at least 25% of the people that say they buy it all just pirate it all.


If I had no money would that mean I have no right to use massive? Would that mean I have no right to make EDM at all? Should the poor only use garageband demos? Seems kinda fucked up, but asi es la vida

[DannyLifted]

your not gonna get much for less then a hundred

[JemGrover]

Hard to say, as I don't think I'm anywhere near the level of ability where I can justify large purchases especially when I have everything I need already, but I don't think I'd have a problem with spending £100 on a bundle ...But yeah, that's coming from someone who's still got 2/3 of his student loan left - Come the end of the summer I'd probably say different, haha

[makemerich]

as much as it takes for me to write a quality record.

[futures_untold]

Does someone have the right to use Massive without paying for it?

Depends how one looks at it I guess?

The people who coded the program spent years studying audio technology and computing to gain enough knowledge to write such a program. That probably involved paying for university courses and buying a few books along the way.

Then they also had to eat and pay for their accommodation while programing the actual plugin.

Question: Does someone have a right to drive that shiny sports car sitting in the car dealership show room without paying for it? Afterall, we need to get from A to B and that sports car will do the job nicely. What's wrong with the other options, including walking, riding a bike, catching the bus, hitching a lift or buying a less exciting model of car for a fraction of the price..?

In my opinion there's no excuse for cracking music software, especially when absolutely brilliant freeware exists which covers much of the same ground as payware plugins.

For instance, we can use the extensive synthesis capabilities of Fuzzpilz Oatmeal VSTi and Sonic Lion Nitrox VSTi. Both synths allow custom waveforms, have plenty of modulation options and plenty of built in effects. Then dBlue Glitch and Melda freeware or Kjaerhus Audio plugins are available.

What's more in business terms, even the likes of Native Instruments and Steinberg are poor. Look into the profits that financial companies make, or supermarket chains, or computer hardware manufacturers like Apple and Sony. That's when you'll see the difference between profit and only just about making a comfortable living.

So my arguement about using Massive without paying is that no, one shouldn't be allowed. The people that coded Massive are trying to earn a living from selling a product they created, just like a carpenter might sell furniture they had produced to sell. Don't steal from the poor guy (or at all unless your actually starving)...

/rant lol

[DZA]

I'm talking two mates in a bedroom coding that shit, catching buses and eating baked beans.

Not much cus i cant imagine them to keep updating it and sorting out all the bugs like major companys do

the two mates dont happen to be you and your friend do they

[futures_untold]

ya man, corse innit

[legend4ry]

I voted for 100 plus because if its well made, had regular updates and was a good piece of software which I would benefit from, I wouldn't be bothered about a price... Anything over around 200-300 quid is BIT pricey unless you're talking Arturia stuff wich is so packed with content and works so flawlessly you don't mind spending a whole months money on it.

[futures_untold]

Our plan is;

He's focussing on programming sounds and producing tunes as well as helping research. I'm focussing on programming, research and writing.

ETA is this summer as he's got to finish this year at uni and I've got to build our website before he arrives.

Then we're going to spend all summer creating content for the site including plugins, both freeware and payware.

So if you wonder why I'm not on DSF too much, partly it's because I'm already working on this project along with others.

Major benefit of being on the dole = I can spend a long time doing the prep work required to make self-employment a success!

[legend4ry]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.


















Make nice GUI's. There is way to many indie companies out there who are making great software with the most ugly GUIs and it'll be nice to be able to type in parameters as well as having knobs/sliders, one thing a lot of companies forget.

[futures_untold]

Fear not.

A usable GUI makes or breaks a plugins success imo. Look at the difference between Absynth and Massive. Both synths are powerful. Both synths are from the same outfit. But Massive is infinately easier to use and infinately more popular.

Then look at Gladiator or Omnisphere compared to Alchemy.

Alchemy kicks ass because the GUI is easy to understand and it's so frookin easy to use!

[cane creek]

From memory I think the most expensive plugin I've bought is the Powercore Tube-tech CL1B I can't remember how much I payed, I was a early adopter and it was expensive.
I have since sold the licence luckily before Powercore went tits up and with the money I bought the Softube version

[cane creek]

Does someone have the right to use Massive without paying for it?

I buy my software and would never advocate using pirate stuff, however people have always done this in one way or another.
I was born in the 70's and remember when I was young I had to be quiet when top of the pops was on because my brother would have a tape recorder next to the tv recording the songs lol.
I'd find it hard to believe there's nobody outhere who's never watched a copy film on DvD... Where do you draw the line ?
I've spotted cracked software being used on computer music magazine Producer master class videos (Aquasky you naughty boys lol)
As for Massive, I'm currently using version 1.2.1 64 bit AU in logic9 64 bit that's just one of the perks of paying for your software

[futures_untold]

In my book the line is drawn when it comes to pain or damage being inflicted, or people losing their livelihood or health...

[paradigm_x]

Hard to say without knowing what it does or how it sounds...

Having paid £450 for cubase, god only knows how much on UAD, id pay what it was worth.

But at this point i am utterly saturated with software, Komplete5, Albino, UAD, Cubase and Ableton, various AudioDamage, Sonalksis... Itd have to be something pretty unique and great sounding to make me purchase tbh. A subtractive synth aint going to cut it.

Youve got a lot of competition TBH, TAL puts out some great free VSTis as well as what youve already mentioned.

Good luck with it.