Do you actually buy software?

[CBK81]

I buy the shit that I use.

[nowaysj]

I note on KVRaudio.com that Steinberg have just released the fully unlimited 30 day trail version of Cubase 6.
You were saying?

And why do they offer trial versions, NOW?

[futures_untold]

Dunno, so people stop pirating their horrible programz??

[nowaysj]

How is there not a high five emoticon?

[futures_untold]

lol at the three people who voted 'they don't know how to find naughty software'

[Majin]

If I ever start making tunes I'd buy licensed versions, until then I'm not about to drop like at least $1k on software when I may not ever make anything good with it.

so say people who enjoy sports etc as kids shouldn't have to pay for the equipment if they don't make the team?

No, it's more like if I enjoy producing I'll gladly buy it. I bought all my music before I started doing mixes, just because I love it, and I've spent loads more on other people's tracks than software will cost me to make my own .

[wub]

If I ever start making tunes I'd buy licensed versions, until then I'm not about to drop like at least $1k on software when I may not ever make anything good with it.

so say people who enjoy sports etc as kids shouldn't have to pay for the equipment if they don't make the team?

No, it's more like if I enjoy producing I'll gladly buy it. I bought all my music before I started doing mixes, just because I love it, and I've spent loads more on other people's tracks than software will cost me to make my own .

So if you'd bought a lot of rock tracks, and wanted to learn how to play guitar, you'd steal one as opposed to buying it?

[FSTZ]

I buy the shit that I use.

ditto

over the years I have needed fewer and fewer plugins to get the sounds I need

plus I am a huge fan of dsp / hardware based synths / plugs

[djbmc]

I started on cracked stuff, since i've moved to Mac i bought Logic and use the free synths that come with Computer Music, these combined with Logic's built in goodness is all i need. I'm thinking about investing in Sylenth or maybe Massive but i'm avoiding cracked copies of anything because they're such a pain in the arse to maintain, plus forking out for it will give me the motivation required to explore fully what the synth is capable of rather than flicking thru the presets and done.

I wouldn't judge anyone for using cracked stuff, each to their own but i do believe ur more likely to be a jack of all trades and a master of none when you're always updating ur pirated VST library.

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If I ever start making tunes I'd buy licensed versions, until then I'm not about to drop like at least $1k on software when I may not ever make anything good with it.

so say people who enjoy sports etc as kids shouldn't have to pay for the equipment if they don't make the team?

No, it's more like if I enjoy producing I'll gladly buy it. I bought all my music before I started doing mixes, just because I love it, and I've spent loads more on other people's tracks than software will cost me to make my own .

Look, I don't disagree that with software like a DAW (or Photopshop if you want a non music example), those companies should offer unrestricted demos. But no one NEEDS a copy of Massive and Ableton to figure out if they "like producing" or not.

Also, earlier you said something to the effect of, "I'm not dropping like 1K on software before I know if I really want to produce". Again, that'd be valid if true. The fact is you don't need to to do that. In fact, you dont' have to drop ANY money. You also don't HAVE to pirate 1k in software to figure it out.

[Majin]

Look, I don't disagree that with software like a DAW (or Photopshop if you want a non music example), those companies should offer unrestricted demos. But no one NEEDS a copy of Massive and Ableton to figure out if they "like producing" or not.

Also, earlier you said something to the effect of, "I'm not dropping like 1K on software before I know if I really want to produce". Again, that'd be valid if true. The fact is you don't need to to do that. In fact, you dont' have to drop ANY money. You also don't HAVE to pirate 1k in software to figure it out.

Better to test out the real thing than struggle with a dumbed-down version don't you think? Sometimes you just need to know what you're really getting yourself into before you take the plunge.

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Look, I don't disagree that with software like a DAW (or Photopshop if you want a non music example), those companies should offer unrestricted demos. But no one NEEDS a copy of Massive and Ableton to figure out if they "like producing" or not.

Also, earlier you said something to the effect of, "I'm not dropping like 1K on software before I know if I really want to produce". Again, that'd be valid if true. The fact is you don't need to to do that. In fact, you dont' have to drop ANY money. You also don't HAVE to pirate 1k in software to figure it out.

Better to test out the real thing than struggle with a dumbed-down version don't you think? Sometimes you just need to know what you're really getting yourself into before you take the plunge.

Well I don't disagree with that (which my previous post doesn't quite make clear), but that is significantly different position than you were taking previously.

Big difference between "I'm going to test a full but cracked version of X for a month and then buy it or not...if not I'll delete it" and "I don't know if Ill like and/or be good at producing so I'm going to download 1k of software and use it for six months or a year" or "I'll pay for it if and when I get payed for making music".

[JBE]

I own I think like 4 synths in total and have no need for anything else. I would say in total I spent about 100 dollars on all of them combined. As for my effects, I main stick specifically to freeware and what came with FL. I've picked up a few plugins here and there, nothing amazing and the most I paid is about 50 bucks but it was a bundle deal with Stillwell and I got 3 plugins, so less than 20 for each plugin. The most I spent on a single plugin was about 25. I'm comfortable with those prices as I don't make a lot of money, and my bills take the majority of my paychecks.

I've used many cracked softwares, but that was back before I discovered all the freeware, and when I thought I had to have like 9000 synths to make music. Back before I realized that having all those synths was actually making it harder for me to learn anything cause I was constantly synth hopping and never took the time to really learn them. Hell, I'm still not all that great with the 4 I actually own, but oh well.

[slothrop]

Look, I don't disagree that with software like a DAW (or Photopshop if you want a non music example), those companies should offer unrestricted demos. But no one NEEDS a copy of Massive and Ableton to figure out if they "like producing" or not.

Also, earlier you said something to the effect of, "I'm not dropping like 1K on software before I know if I really want to produce". Again, that'd be valid if true. The fact is you don't need to to do that. In fact, you dont' have to drop ANY money. You also don't HAVE to pirate 1k in software to figure it out.

Better to test out the real thing than struggle with a dumbed-down version don't you think? Sometimes you just need to know what you're really getting yourself into before you take the plunge.

Not many people start playing piano on a Steinway Grand, or guitar on a vintage telecaster...

[futures_untold]

Better to test out the real thing than struggle with a dumbed-down version don't you think? Sometimes you just need to know what you're really getting yourself into before you take the plunge.

I learnt to sequence samples using Ejay and Magix Music Maker years before learning how to use Reason & Cubase.

Also for a long time, I was more comfortable with Fruity Loops 3 than I was with Reason because FL was simpler to program, more akin to Rebirth which I had a demo of years before...

For me then, I'd say I have progressed from simple software onto more advanced software. When I first sat in front of Reason, I shit myself because I had no idea what anything did. When I first used (a crack of) Cubase, I spent months banging my head against the wall cuz I couldn't figure out what did what or how to link VSTi plugins with MIDI tracks etc.

I didn't have the knowledge of production techniques to drive my use of Cubase for a long time after I got a crack of SX. It wasn't until I put the time in reading manuals and production books that I started to be able to utilise Cubase at anywhere near its full potential.

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Relatedly, I've taught many teens how to use Reason and Adobe Audition as part of a youth media job I had a few years back. Trust me, most of those teens would have been far happier jumping onto eJay or Music Maker instead of struggling with Reason devices! And with the new confidence in their ability to sequence samples, some of them would have taken more of an interest in learning about synthesis and recording etc.

[nitzdaking]

I pirate everything i can

[terrible1fi]

started with reason 4 crack, ended up buying record reason duo.

[Pedro Sánchez]

Buying software actually makes you get the most out of the software, when you have a 1000 cracked plugins at your disposal it becomes too overwhelming and hinders your creativity. Less is more and less is affordable.

[Mad_EP]

Better to test out the real thing than struggle with a dumbed-down version don't you think? Sometimes you just need to know what you're really getting yourself into before you take the plunge.

I've been playing cello for 26 years.. I didn't start out on a Stradivarius, nor do I even play on anything close to that today, even though I have been a professional for almost 2 decades.

The problem with the mindset of many people these days is that they think everything should be available to them NOW without any monetary (warez) or time (how do I make skrilex wobblez) investment.

[Pedro Sánchez]

The problem with the mindset of many people these days is that they think everything should be available to them NOW without any monetary

The younger generation have no real sense of value, they think because they can't hold it, that it didn't take an awfully long time or a lot of work to create.