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hasezwei wrote:.
the skrillex bass in scatta however is probably layered with shittons of foley but fuck it i'll never figure that one out anyway
Basic A, while i totally respect never having listened to skrillex (his music is a metaphor for everything that's wrong with my generation) you should at least check the sound at 0:40 here.
that bass is only a simple wobble bass layered with 2-3 vocals run through vocoders...real obvious on that one.
Massive > Modern Talking in OSC1 > WT Position on full > Resample and split the frequencies > Low Pass filter on the high band > Overdrive on the mid band.
These threads make me laugh! Datsik bass from one oscillator on massive??? Yeah sure. Skrillex bass from modern talking?? Lol! Glad that mysterys cleared up....
The funny thing is, its more about the resampling in skrillex's stuff. Its 90% vocal bass and for that all it requires is one oscillator in massive and a shit load of processing. The other 10% is granular fucking synthesis...
collective wrote:
hasezwei wrote:
Ldizzy wrote:
skrillex does very fast-foodish synthesis... so i dont even doubt it...
fastfoodish? i work at burger king and have no idea wtf you mean by that
hasezwei wrote:.
the skrillex bass in scatta however is probably layered with shittons of foley but fuck it i'll never figure that one out anyway
Basic A, while i totally respect never having listened to skrillex (his music is a metaphor for everything that's wrong with my generation) you should at least check the sound at 0:40 here.
that bass is only a simple wobble bass layered with 2-3 vocals run through vocoders...real obvious on that one.
Massive > Modern Talking in OSC1 > WT Position on full > Resample and split the frequencies > Low Pass filter on the high band > Overdrive on the mid band.
i made a bass by myself (not expecting or trying to sound like datsik or excision) and I think it sounds datsik/excision-ISH ... not exactly like them but I wouldnt be surprised if they made something like it. theres two different basses that I am demonstrating (both made by me) ... no synthesizers were used in this (absolutely no synths)
well anyway here it is, I recorded the notes and automation live and without an idea of what I was planning to play, so prepare for sucky performance...just focus on the sound lol: http://isrealgroup.5gigs.net/music/awsu ... esign1.mp3
EDIT: I think I figured out why this type of sound is so thick-sounding ... it has different basses each filtered to have its own individual frequency range that none of the others occupy and then when blended together, the final sound hits most, if not all, frequencies with equal volume.
Last edited by jrisreal on Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
Basic A wrote:Massive > Osc 1 carbon > Unison to 5-8, enable wavetable position unison, set it to the very center of the slider, slightly to the left. lowpass 4 on filter 1, lfo its cutoff + osc amp 1, automate osc 1 position to get it talking, insert teletube in fx1 and the expander to fx2... Call it retreat/swagga...
Oh shit did I demystify that? Im sorry =/...
What is there to demystify? Basic starting point, basses like that are all about the processing anyways.
@OP, quite an ok bass, just don't think about it in terms of Datsik/Skrillex whatever.
Buuut, thats not a basic starting point, its a finished patch, and isnt gonna require jack for post-processing aside from a reverb to color it in with the rest of the track, just modulating whats in the synth and layering with a bunch of sweeps... worst case scenario, a filterbank, but no extreme post processing... I think a big part of what keeps these brostep sounds so out of peoples reach is there trying to turn them out using a bunch of distortion units and flangers and complicated effects chains shit when people should be more minimally minded and learn their synths... And even then, when learning the synths, they overcomplicate things, instead of realizing the simplest route is probably the correct one (isnt that like a law of physics?)... The resampling thing is to keep the filters moving, not to pile on 8million distortion units and shit.
The sounds should be right coming out of your synth. Always. Stop trying to polish turds with a million post-effects, and make simple, effective patches instead.
Bro basses are 99% of the time very basic patches like that, layered with a ton of sweeps. IDK what skrillex even sounds like, Ive never heard his music, so I cant comment on that, but, I think people GROSSLY overestimate the amount of post-processing being done to datscision sounds, and ignore the power of simple patches because of it.
Simple things tend to be what sound most stunning. Its NOT all about processing. Its about efective sound design.
word on that. the magic of resampling in the signature datsik bass (you know, the one in 'boom' for example) is that they pasted together parts off a couple different versions of the same sound. they probably just looped it, played around with the filters and then picked what sounded good together.
the skrillex bass in scatta however is probably layered with shittons of foley but fuck it i'll never figure that one out anyway
Basic A, while i totally respect never having listened to skrillex (his music is a metaphor for everything that's wrong with my generation) you should at least check the sound at 0:40 here.
just saying, i hate the music but i can't help wanting to know the processes behind that bass. that's some hollywood sounddesign shit right there (maybe he just paid a studio to make that sound for him )
My guess is that Skrillex is doing something so freaking simple and we as the dubstep community are too stupid to figure it out lol...I have a theory that he just screams into a microphone, granulize, distort, eq, automate, etc... not even using a vocoder, just screams
