subbbb appreciation

[Sheff]

Ol-Dirty Benton
Every shit tune i hear just makes me want to make a good one... not bitch about it on a forum <advice
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[nousd]

An analogy:
Bill builds yachts. He loves building different kinds & sailing them. Harry comes along & digs what he's doing but reckons he can improve on it. He builds a jet boat and goes over to Bill's to show him what he insists on calling a yacht. Bill says yeah whatever you like but that's not a yacht.

Bill is clearly a fuck knuckle purist if he's unwilling to admit that yachts don't necessarily have to have sails.

Maybe so but Harry's not real perceptive if he doesn't understand that Bill uses the term yacht to mean something that sails...a very different experience to jetboating with it's noise, speed and exhaust.
haha, this is becoming pretty funny...posting on the boatingforum.

btw, the term yacht was around before motors so it originally applied to sailing vessels.

[fractal]

Curious as to what your opinion of "core dubstep" is sd5... To me core dubstep tunes are stuff like dj abstracts "touch", digital mystikz "awd", tunes like "sholay" and loefahs "beat them"
In other words, non halftime, swingy beats with bass around 140 bpm
To me, halftime dubstep is a variant from the core, what do you think? It's all subjective, I know, just wanted to see what you think...

[nousd]

amazingly fractal, I'm momentarily lost for words






years back I could define dubstep ad infinitum
referring to high hat on third, bpm, sub-bass & space
I could exemplify it & categorize it till the cows come home

now I just hear it & recognize it

however aesthetically pleasing,
I don't hear it in Burial or Borgore,
Mt. Kimbie or Mt. Eden
nor in the recent music of a lot of the original producers and wanna-bes

but I heard it the other night
when Farj played early DMZ vinyl, with its melodic samples
Zero Dub returned from noodling with KM weight,
& Cyrus stripping dubstep to its essence
so the spaces widen to highlight the sub tsunami
and the ebbing swing becomes irresistable steps

and i realized that it's not just the sound
but it's a shared appreciation of all that,
requiring synced minds & aesthetic values,
that makes for core/proppa dubstep

that if i was at a night with you & lots of others on here
and certain tracks came on a big system,
we'd turn to each other
grinning

if there are only tens of thousands on the planet
who can share that
well, i dunno what i did to be so lucky.

[fractal]

Word, as we used to say on this forum back in the day: it's about the vibes!

[kingGhost]

i know what i like, and i know what it is. a lot of people just like midrange wobbles, glowsticks, and flat chested 19 year old girls who can't dance a lick... so what? i can just make fun of them and be a condescending prick to their face when they try to talk to me about dubstep.

actually i kinda like glitch mob... don't wanna be a hypocrite up in here... they're not the best group out there by any means but i find their tunes pretty decent. bassnectar and skrillex are pretty terrible, however... this is a fact and you can't argue otherwise, so don't even try.

[nousd]

[Filthzilla]

Well this a dumb thread.

[NickUndercover]

Well this a dumb thread.

Thank you for that magnificent reaction. Really I'm blinded by the shining development of your opinion mate.

[brettheaslewood]

who said glitch mob were dubstep?

[monkers]

true say. swamp 81 doesnt put out dubstep.

its good tho!

good example of how you can make edm in 2011 without calling it dubstep!

may i present exhibit A, dubstep 'put out' by swamp 81



also OP worst post ever

[NickUndercover]

also just stop talking OP

true say. swamp 81 doesnt put out dubstep.

its good tho!

good example of how you can make edm in 2011 without calling it dubstep!

Oh come on Badman was released in 2010 and it's clear that they've taken another direction since then, which is far away from (conventional) dubstep. don't go bad faith...

[Kochari]

that if i was at a night with you & lots of others on here
and certain tracks came on a big system,
we'd turn to each other
grinning

if there are only tens of thousands on the planet
who can share that
well, i dunno what i did to be so lucky.

[pompende]

there's a lot i'd like to respond to in here that I'll have to come back to later.

for now i just want to say that the shittiest part of this thread is the complaints about how shit it is.


and i really like sd5's boat analogy.
i like to think of it in terms of food. take curry for example: its a broad term that encompasses a lot of "sub-genre" dishes and covers a huge amount of variation. Theres still a limit tho: if you're cooking buffalo in nacho cheese and serving it over pasta you just can't call it a curry at that point. Similarly, if you marinate chicken in barbeque sauce then cook it in a tandoor its not suddenly tandoori chicken.

[Basstronomer]

there's a lot i'd like to respond to in here that I'll have to come back to later.

for now i just want to say that the shittiest part of this thread is the complaints about how shit it is.


and i really like sd5's boat analogy.
i like to think of it in terms of food. take curry for example: its a broad term that encompasses a lot of "sub-genre" dishes and covers a huge amount of variation. Theres still a limit tho: if you're cooking buffalo in nacho cheese and serving it over pasta you just can't call it a curry at that point. Similarly, if you marinate chicken in barbeque sauce then cook it in a tandoor its not suddenly tandoori chicken.

I don't get it... You start a thread asking people their opinions, they give it to you, you disagree with their opinions, they disagreed with yours... you don't have the same tastes, end of thread, no?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I got the impression you are trying to convince someone here?

[kaiten]

I like the sailing analogy.

[pompende]

I don't get it... You start a thread asking people their opinions, they give it to you, you disagree with their opinions, they disagreed with yours... you don't have the same tastes, end of thread, no?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I got the impression you are trying to convince someone here?

probably coz thats exactly what im trying to do. I didn't ask anyone for their opinion.

and tbf i think all the contrarian opinons have been "you're an idiot" or "if you don't like it don't listen"

[pompende]

and for the fifth time: its not about what i do or don't like. its a matter of terminology.

dubstep emerged as a group of music with no specific genreic identifiers. its constituents were defined more by intention and cultural proximity than a specific rhythmic structure or identifiable tag.

compare this to descriptors like donk house or jackin house which are quite strict and refer to specific sounds. (ie the donk or jazz w/ rap acapellas)

[Airr]

Some of you guys are so busy trying to repel newbies you don't even realise you may be repelling some really cool people that ARE open minded and may be able to teach YOU something. Try giving people a chance instead of shitting all over them before they can even try ffs.

[pompende]

^what are you on about?

do what you do and love it just know what it is you're doing.

could say the same thing about drugs, really.