Ending a Track

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:24 am

I'm a beginner in the dubstep world, and after going through making like 6 tunes, I got something thats actually pretty nice. The problem is, I have absolutely no idea how to close it or end it. In hiphop, all I would have to do is put a declining value for the automation on the master volume parameter or just end with a hit. In dubstep, all of my tracks sucked in the end.

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:33 am

Just bring elements out in 4-8 bar measures.. for instance...

Bring main synth out > Bring some percussion out > bring kick and snare out > leave pad, sub and a simple hat patten playing till the end > have pad's release fade the track out. Its what a lot of people do and probably the simplest way to end a track, nothing sudden just smooth regression

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:39 am

legend4ry wrote:Just bring elements out in 4-8 bar measures.. for instance...

Bring main synth out > Bring some percussion out > bring kick and snare out > leave pad, sub and a simple hat patten playing till the end > have pad's release fade the track out. Its what a lot of people do and probably the simplest way to end a track, nothing sudden just smooth regression

i dont have pad or sub in it...the sub is built into the "bass" sound. and its kind of a laid back track with flow to it (like hiphop but in dubstep form AKA swagga by datsik/excision)...

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:40 am

It was just an example.

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:42 am

legend4ry wrote:It was just an example.

oh ok, ill just toy around until something fits

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:58 am

hola...apparently my link is against the rules so i got rid of it

Karoshi · Post by **Karoshi** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:52 am

i hate songs that just fade out (volume wise), its just makes me think 'that was lazy'

gnome · Post by **gnome** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:12 pm

snick01 wrote:i hate songs that just fade out (volume wise), its just makes me think 'that was lazy'

Yeah I always feel unsatisfied.

JBE · Post by **JBE** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:19 pm

If the sub is built into the main bass you can highpass the sub out. Personally I take a little bit out usually. Drop some of the hats out. Maybe remove underlying synth sounds I use to work with the main melody. Once I get it stripped down a little bit, I like to end it with the pads I used. I might stick in small parts of the main melody into the outro as well. Sometimes I like putting a heavy reverb and delay on something and just let the reverb and delay fade it out.

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:31 pm

JBE wrote:If the sub is built into the main bass you can highpass the sub out. Personally I take a little bit out usually. Drop some of the hats out. Maybe remove underlying synth sounds I use to work with the main melody. Once I get it stripped down a little bit, I like to end it with the pads I used. I might stick in small parts of the main melody into the outro as well. Sometimes I like putting a heavy reverb and delay on something and just let the reverb and delay fade it out.

Thanks. I've done that reverb thing with hiphop b4 <(^_^)>

Barka · Post by **Barka** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:43 pm

minus 12, minus 24, duck

Filthzilla · Post by **Filthzilla** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:58 am

Just tear back layers of the the tune over 16 bars.. Filter things out, fade things out, have things stop dead, etc...
Just leave something around for the DJ to mix the next tune too.

Something rythmic all the way to the end is good to help out those DJs. :}

You've heard Havoc - Datsik yeah? Check out the way he peels back the track at the end.. doesn't even end on the beat! So cool, check it out.

wub · Post by **wub** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:02 am

Strip out the elements one by one, in a similar way to how you may have bought in them at the start of the track.

Or do something different, like bringing all elements to a massive crescendo, automate some sick amounts of delay, then have everything suddenly stop and a huge reverb tail with a spoken word sample over the top, like some alien girls voice asking you to turn the tape over or something.

Filthzilla · Post by **Filthzilla** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:06 am

wub wrote:Strip out the elements one by one, in a similar way to how you may have bought in them at the start of the track.

serox · Post by **serox** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:09 am

Who cares about the ending of a track? its nice to have a nice outro using elements from ur track but seriously it doesn't matter! put ur time and effort into making a decent track and forget about this for now

wub · Post by **wub** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:11 am

serox wrote:Who cares about the ending of a track?

The OP, obviously.

serox · Post by **serox** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:18 am

wub wrote:
serox wrote:Who cares about the ending of a track?
The OP, obviously.

True but its not that important. If you need to ask such a question then the rest of the track prob is not doing it imo.

wub · Post by **wub** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:25 am

serox wrote:
wub wrote:
serox wrote:Who cares about the ending of a track?
The OP, obviously.
True but its not that important. If you need to ask such a question then the rest of the track prob is not doing it imo.

It's only obvious if you know what you're doing;

jrisreal wrote:I'm a beginner in the dubstep world, and after going through making like 6 tunes, I got something thats actually pretty nice. The problem is, I have absolutely no idea how to close it or end it. In hiphop, all I would have to do is put a declining value for the automation on the master volume parameter or just end with a hit. In dubstep, all of my tracks sucked in the end.

OP has stated that he comes from another genre where it's just a case of fading out, and is asking for advice on what is considered the norm within dubstep. It's not a case of the track itself 'not doing it', it's just unfamiliarity when doing something different.

serox · Post by **serox** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:45 am

Doesnt matter what genre you make. There is no 'dubstep' way of doing it and my advice was to not put too much time into thinking about it, do whatever comes natural.

benjam · Post by **benjam** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:58 am

If your not sure how to end a track just listen to a few tunes and see what their doing.

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