sending demos to labels which use "naughty" plugs..

[deadly_habit]

try sq8l for starters
it requires reading the manual and has an old school interface so i'm guessing most people will overlook it as too hard

played with this the other day, don't get why people are saying it's so confusing because it seemed fairly straightforward. having said that there are people out there that download cracked stuff and don't even know how to read a .nfo file.

prolly cause it's laid out like a piece of gear with buttons for diff menus, beyond me ffs my akai and kawai are bitches to work with, but just took some manual reading, which people with cracked gear tend not to read

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which people with cracked gear tend not to read

even when they are on the plugin/DAW website freely available for download regardless of whether you've purchased it or not.

[deadly_habit]

which people with cracked gear tend not to read

even when they are on the plugin/DAW website freely available for download regardless of whether you've purchased it or not.

bingo
i need to make an rtfm macro for http://tentativerecordings.com/alpacaland/

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[deadly_habit]

it's alpaca land not macro land heh

[abZ]

I never read the fucking manuals, that's cheating

[deadly_habit]

I never read the fucking manuals, that's cheating

[Grumblex]

why would you even start this thread lmao

[paravrais]

When I upgraded to ableton 8 the other week I ordered the boxed version to see if the EIC was any good (which it is :p) but this also means I now have a hard copy of the ableton manual. Bitch is just pleading to be read but she's also intimidating me...

[deadly_habit]

heh the technical cubase manual is so thick it needs to be digital or else they'd lose money

[symmetricalsounds]

Bitch is just pleading to be read but she's also intimidating me...

ableton manual is a comparatively light read and entertaining as much as it can be for a technical manual, not worked all the way through it yet but getting there.

[flex vector]

It probably sounds weird to praise a manual so much, but the Ableton manual really is the most informative and well written product manual I've ever read. Everything is explained very clearly and in a way that just makes sense. It's kind of like Live itself in that regard.

[deadly_habit]

[Ldizzy]

roger linn could write a manual.

[zerbaman]

Most daw's provides you with enough plugins/etc to make a tune good enough for release.

I don't know why people wank themselves to death over a plugin that the latest producer on the teenybopper bandwagon is using.

I actually avoid looking for dubstep on youtube because of the sheer number of revolting remixes made using massive et al.

There are plugins that can get you close in FL, but as far as I know not that do the same

EDIT,
I don't use massive all that much, it's just the things that I use it for can't be done with anything else I know of.

That's complete bullshit. There are so many synths that can do anything massive can and much more. Just because Datsik uses massive doesn't mean that you can only make Datsik basses with it.

Pretty much all synths are different and they work in completely different ways but you can achieve the same results if you know what I'm doing. Alchemy is known for making really pretty bells and ambient soundcapes but I made a really filthy brutal electro on steroids sounding patch last night in it. It's just about actually learning how to synthesise sounds rather than going to massive and going "hmm if I choose any waveform, daft filter and attach an lfo to the cutoff it sounds like datsik"

Well then, seeing as your trying to tell me not to pirate, why don't you tell me the names of "so many synths that can do what massive can and much more"
That's all I ask.

And listen to my tracks, name one that has a "datsik bass"

there's nothing identical to massive with all the filters and effects built in, but all you really need is a wavetable synth since that's all it is at heart
if you can't live without it, how about you shell out the 200$

Not free, does not sound like software

You don't think a wavetable synth is software?

Despite just being told that massive is one?

Hmm.....

Mis-understood that

there's nothing identical to massive with all the filters and effects built in, but all you really need is a wavetable synth since that's all it is at heart
if you can't live without it, how about you shell out the 200$

Not free, does not sound like software

there are plenty of free ones, i'm not gonna do all the work and reveal some of my secret weapons
try sq8l for starters
it requires reading the manual and has an old school interface so i'm guessing most people will overlook it as too hard

Downloaded, ready to install!

[paravrais]

Did I not give you a list earlier in this thread?? Like it's been said already, no synth freeware or payware will have the exact same interface as massive but there are shitloads that will be able to create the same sounds. You'll just have to learn to use them.

Oatmeal, Crystal, Synth 1, SQ8L, Nitrox, The TAL series, GTG synths (especially GTG ST 2008), Atlantis

freeware site - http://www.gersic.com/plugins/index.php?daCat=-6


What's with all this 'give me' anyway? Is it really that fucking hard to do the research yourself? Kids are so fucking lazy these days.

[zerbaman]

Did I not give you a list earlier in this thread?? Like it's been said already, no synth freeware or payware will have the exact same interface as massive but there are shitloads that will be able to create the same sounds. You'll just have to learn to use them.

Oatmeal, Crystal, Synth 1, SQ8L, Nitrox, The TAL series, GTG synths (especially GTG ST 2008), Atlantis

freeware site - http://www.gersic.com/plugins/index.php?daCat=-6


What's with all this 'give me' anyway? Is it really that fucking hard to do the research yourself? Kids are so fucking lazy these days.

Well seeing as you're trying to convince me not to pirate my synths, it seems fairly logical that you give me some proof doesn't it?

SQ8L's nice, been on it all night, barely slept, although I have one question, is there some kind of phase/flange going on in the background or is it just my paranoia creeping in?

[decklyn]

Lol nice pic!

I never read the fucking manual.

If I REALLY need to learn something I go learn that one particular thing through an online tutorial, youtube video etc.

[zerbaman]

cmt bitcrusher standard
that is like the massive of bitcrushers and is free

I think the geektronic bitcrusher is better. More features at anyrate haha, depends on what you're aiming for

[Janke]

What's with all this 'give me' anyway? Is it really that fucking hard to do the research yourself? Kids are so fucking lazy these days.

It's fun to get other people to do shit for you.

Being lazy 2k8.