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Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by GV1 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:31 pm

Ok before I'm labeled "Stupid" hear me out.

Was working on a session for 3 days, and today logic decides to crash on me. I figured out it was the 6 instances of Massive that was opened. Not sure why it chose to crash today because I've never had a problem before and my computer is more than powerful enough to handle 6 instances with lots of CPU and RAM spare.

Anyway ... I had remove all the instances of Massive, leaving one open, and bounce each part of the bassline. I am now left with 8 bassline loops. But the loops lack the lower frequencies, I was in the process of adding the bass using the oscillators on Massive, it's how I work (strange maybe).

The question is whats the best way I can add bass to the bottom end to give these now samples. I'm not a fan of working with bass samples in wav form because I now feel limited to what I can do without effing up the samples.

Any pointers, or tips?
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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:37 pm

the same bassline with a a raw sine on the low end?
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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by GV1 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:42 pm

Pedro Sánchez wrote:the same bassline with a a raw sine on the low end?
The bassline is played on one note, but heavy lfo modulation controlling the oscillators. I've tried modifying the patch with a lowpass filter and as soon as I touch Massive it crashes. It wouldnt really sound the same if I was to do it on another synth.

I've heard lots of people having the Massive and Logic problem.
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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by hasezwei » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:06 pm

GV1 wrote:
Pedro Sánchez wrote:the same bassline with a a raw sine on the low end?
The bassline is played on one note, but heavy lfo modulation controlling the oscillators. I've tried modifying the patch with a lowpass filter and as soon as I touch Massive it crashes. It wouldnt really sound the same if I was to do it on another synth.

I've heard lots of people having the Massive and Logic problem.
i know it's not the nicest question but.... have you bought massive? the cracked versions stop working after a few days or even weeks.

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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by zerbaman » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:27 pm

hasezwei wrote:
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Pedro Sánchez wrote:the same bassline with a a raw sine on the low end?
The bassline is played on one note, but heavy lfo modulation controlling the oscillators. I've tried modifying the patch with a lowpass filter and as soon as I touch Massive it crashes. It wouldnt really sound the same if I was to do it on another synth.

I've heard lots of people having the Massive and Logic problem.
i know it's not the nicest question but.... have you bought massive? the cracked versions stop working after a few days or even weeks.
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And just use a sine wave. Your sub is supposed to be sine. I don't get why you'd make a tune without one at the bottom of the mix anyway..
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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by Kes-Es » Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:57 pm

Sine, if the modulation on the mid and the sine don't match up who gives a shit, Just make sure it's on the same note and hits plenty hard and you'll be fine.
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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by soulshynchyld » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:23 pm

2 choices...

download the newest version of massive.... which doesn't crash!! AT ALL!!

create a new audio track, insert a test oscillator & then a gate. side chain the gate to the bass channel,
tune ya sine to suit (oscillator). ya can automate the freq too.

look online for note freqs to keep em in key!

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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by JFK » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:23 pm

Kes-Es wrote:Sine, if the modulation on the mid and the sine don't match up who gives a shit, Just make sure it's on the same note and hits plenty hard and you'll be fine.
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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by Depone » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:46 pm

Im going to bet that your copy of massive is [K]racked... Its a well known problem in the illegal versions...
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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by Big Freq » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:12 am

try bouncing it to an audio file instead of playing all those instances of massive.... just a thought

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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by soulshynchyld » Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:27 am

nah.. he has the crack!

he needs to delete the component & then uninstall massive.
he could then either buy massive or dload the newest version of massive (which doesn't bug out)!

then again... once he deletes the component, he could always reassign all the massive tracks to any of the native logic plugins & learn how to use synthesis properly!

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edit.. yea sure... of course I mean to dload the demo!
ya only lose patch saving ability, but ya can still open patches ya made in ya cracked version!

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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by hifi » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:53 am

sub bass?

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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by jaydot » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:24 am

I think you should at least try to bounce and chop/rearrange, on a side note. Make sure you do all your automation before you bounce it first time from MIDI to Audio, then you don't feel the need to have to keep bouncing back and forth.
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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by thor_beatz » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:59 am

put a subharmonic OSC on there. Add -2 oct
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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by zerbaman » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:59 am

soulshynchyld wrote:nah.. he has the crack!

he needs to delete the component & then uninstall massive.
he could then either buy massive or dload the newest version of massive (which doesn't bug out)!

then again... once he deletes the component, he could always reassign all the massive tracks to any of the native logic plugins & learn how to use synthesis properly!

!!chea

edit.. yea sure... of course I mean to dload the demo!
ya only lose patch saving ability, but ya can still open patches ya made in ya cracked version!

!!chea
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Re: Adding "Bass" To The Bassline

Post by iamwilco1 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:08 am

soulshynchyld wrote:2 choices...

download the newest version of massive.... which doesn't crash!! AT ALL!!

create a new audio track, insert a test oscillator & then a gate. side chain the gate to the bass channel,
tune ya sine to suit (oscillator). ya can automate the freq too.

look online for note freqs to keep em in key!

!!chea
I don't know what a test oscillator is but, massive crashes on me when I sometimes right click to on knobs and I out right bought it. I must need to update it, will do tomorrow. About your bass or lack of, I've had the same question for a while. Most of the basses or synths start sounding loose and sloppy and sometime inaudible around the frequency/note that I want. I don't know what to do but, maybe try adding a sine wave tuned down and add compression to keep it together.

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