The Chronic or 2001?

[fused_forces]

Gotta be Chronic for me, but 2001 was better production wise & was still a sick album.

Chronic is a stone cold classic, that reminds me of being a yout.

[bandshell]

Although neither album has anything on 36 chambers, Liquid Swords, Sun Rises in the East etc...

true.

[Hibbie]

The Chronic smashes it over 2001, 'The day the ****** took over' and 'Rat tat tat tat' are 2 of my favourite tunes

[DustyBunzzz]

took me ages to make a choice. i went with 2001.

[Hibbie]

wtf my post got changed, can you not say the N word on here or something?

[contakt321]

I agree that 2001 was an incredible album, and it ushered in a new sound in hip-hop, ultra-clean, well produced, thoughtful sample based production (see all the G-Unit albums, basically in this blueprint.

HOWEVER:

Of the two, the Chronic takes the cake. I see a lot of folks citing 2001, but in no disrespectful way, I think it's because a lot of folks on this board are young and weren't into hip-hop when the Chronic came out. Dre created a whole new style with that album that was APED by everyone. Also, the Chronic shifted the public's hip-hop focus from East Coast to West Coast for the first time ever.

LASTLY:

****** featured better production than both these albums - it represented the pinnacle of early 90's production (drum loops, stacking multiple loops, etc). Dre was sampling 5-10 records per song and making them all come together cohesively. If you haven't spent a few days w/ ****** on repeat in your iPod (I had it on Cassette and Vinyl) and you are a hip-hop fan, you owe to yourself to spend some time w/ ******. Truly slept on as one of the top loop based albums of all time.

[Motorway to Roswell]

A niqqa witta motherfuckin' gun

[pompende]

Next Episode is amazing but as a whole The Chronic is FAR better

that was the first album i took and listened too that wasn't in the charts

It was at number 1 in the U.S. billboard charts and in the top 5 in the UK.

yeah i confuse... Forgot About Dre was on TRL ffs.

LOL at deltron 3030

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

no like?

[pompende]

Fuck! i high voted for the wrong one

[cityzen]

$20 dollar sack pyramid alone canes 2001

[Y_H]

herd both but 2001 for me, because of memories + it was the only one out of the two that i listened in my time.

[Mr Hyde]

did listen to both loads since each came out....but i think 2001 does it for me a bit more, in the mood to play it from start to finish more often than i am with the chronic anyway.

[Badman Juice]

if you're born in the 90s and say the chronic you're just a neek who never listened to hip hop till the age of 16.

[honey-d]

$20 dollar sack pyramid alone canes 2001

That song was so sick; with that Bonham drum intro... shiiiit.

[AllNightDayDream]

"Wake up in the A.M., compose a beat
I bring the fire till you're soaking in your seat"

Had to go 2001 just for the countless times i've put that tune on to go joyriding in the whip feelin like a fuckin boss

[DRTY]

chronic aaaaaall day

rat a tat tat?
stranded on death row?

come the fuck on.

[herbalicious]

I think The Chronic is better...but I'd choose 2001 to over it due to the memories it brings back.

Smoked my first spliff listening to it! Haha what a cliche!

[icanicant]

Happy my vote takes 2001 deservedly into the lead. So disappointed with all the new Dre stuff coming out though

[Genevieve]

I never liked either

This

"none of them" should of been a voting option.

All that old school hip hop is shit to me. snoop dogg, 2pac, dre, ice cube. None could "rap" imo. all lyrics are shit and yet people consider them masters of the game.

Yeah exactly. When I was a kid I enjoyed both, as basic gangsta rap was my main love, but as I grew up and my dad started playing DJ Shadow records to me in my early teen years I started searching for proper hip-hop, and neither of Dre's albums come anywhere near some of the proper shit that was released at the same time but gained much less attention. Shit, Deltron 3030 came out in 2000, much better than both of Dre's and all of Death Row's efforts

Thing is, when the Chronic came out, it was musically more innovative and fresher than Endtroducing... by DJ Shadow was upon its release.

The beats were raw. They really were, sure they set the blueprint for every cheesy run of the mill gangsta rap from the past 15 years, but you can't blame the artist for having an original idea that is ripped off by less talented clones, anyway. And no one rapped like Snoop or RBX did. I'm not even a fan of Snoop, but the dude had style. Style over substance? Sure, but who needs lyrical substance, anyway? Think about it, 90% of all hip-hop lyrics don't have substance either (as much as I fooled myself into believing that all the underground shit I love is somehow does), but they don't have style either. And then you had one of the greatest lyricists of all time (The D.O.C.) writing for it and MCs like Kurupt were still fresh and actually fucking great too (at the time... rappers have this tendency to half-ass their craft after having established their name).

Meanwhile, DJ Shadow was a revivalist. He took hip-hop back to its essence. '3 Feet High and Rising' was essentially the same thing, but DJ Shadow went further back in time when hip-hop was just about the beats and the DJ. Endtroducing... while fucking amazing was a record that should've come out before 'Rapper's Delight' did, timeline wise. Same with the Deltron 3030 record. Thematically interesting and good sample choice, but at its core, it's just beats and rhymes and there was nothing revolutionary about it. Whereas 'The Chronic' totally redefined what 'production value' means in hip-hop.

[Mr Hyde]

I never liked either

This

"none of them" should of been a voting option.

All that old school hip hop is shit to me. snoop dogg, 2pac, dre, ice cube. None could "rap" imo. all lyrics are shit and yet people consider them masters of the game.

Yeah exactly. When I was a kid I enjoyed both, as basic gangsta rap was my main love, but as I grew up and my dad started playing DJ Shadow records to me in my early teen years I started searching for proper hip-hop, and neither of Dre's albums come anywhere near some of the proper shit that was released at the same time but gained much less attention. Shit, Deltron 3030 came out in 2000, much better than both of Dre's and all of Death Row's efforts

Thing is, when the Chronic came out, it was musically more innovative and fresher than Endtroducing... by DJ Shadow was upon its release.

The beats were raw. They really were, sure they set the blueprint for every cheesy run of the mill gangsta rap from the past 15 years, but you can't blame the artist for having an original idea that is ripped off by less talented clones, anyway. And no one rapped like Snoop or RBX did. I'm not even a fan of Snoop, but the dude had style. Style over substance? Sure, but who needs lyrical substance, anyway? Think about it, 90% of all hip-hop lyrics don't have substance either (as much as I fooled myself into believing that all the underground shit I love is somehow does), but they don't have style either. And then you had one of the greatest lyricists of all time (The D.O.C.) writing for it and MCs like Kurupt were still fresh and actually fucking great too (at the time... rappers have this tendency to half-ass their craft after having established their name).

Meanwhile, DJ Shadow was a revivalist. He took hip-hop back to its essence. '3 Feet High and Rising' was essentially the same thing, but DJ Shadow went further back in time when hip-hop was just about the beats and the DJ. Endtroducing... while fucking amazing was a record that should've come out before 'Rapper's Delight' did, timeline wise. Same with the Deltron 3030 records. Thematically interesting and good sample choice, but at its core, it's just beats and rhymes and there was nothing revolutionary about it. Whereas 'The Chronic' totally redefined what 'production value' means in hip-hop.

BOOM!!