Dejan Stojkovic Proposes Expanding 4th Dimension Theory

[Pada]

I read the title as Dejan Stankovic and was like wtf

>_>

me too!

[stappard]

I read the title as Dejan Stankovic and was like wtf

>_>

me too!

me too


here's something to appease the other phillistines...

[Motorway to Roswell]

I read the title as Dejan Stankovic and was like wtf

>_>

So did I.

[2manynoobs]

Human science will not break through the walls of our Container (this Universe) because the same being that created it has said its physically impossible, and made it like that.

when my grandad was in school, they told him without a doubt that the atom could not be split, that it was the only solid block of existence. You're only limiting yourself by thinking like this.

shut up Pars...

oh...

[knell]

yeah, because parson talks about actual science

[test_recordings]

Dimensions are a left-over of Euclidian geometry designed to segment portions of space and the matter within it, they don't necessarily reflect the changing nature of the universe and calculations based on it are artifacts of Classical Greek mathematics. Every distinct culture has its own mathematical formulations of the world surrounding it (the current major model being a synthesis of Greek, Arabic and Indian traditional mathematics - Spengler, 1918 - 'The Decline Of The West'), we should start thinking 'out of the box' (geometry-based pun, if you're that way inclined) and start thinking supra-dimensional as it's all relative to itself anyway (it's like measuring lots of different things with lots of other different things that are all different sizes and don't necessarily match up, literally like trying to measure a circle with a square).
I'm not going to get too excited about this though I might be wrong, I just hope they use a falsifiable hypothesis that's all I'm saying...

[WhosZena]

Fun theory
Higher dimensions correspond to lower, but the 3rd 2nd and 1st were last to form

Filtered down, kinda like this

[kingGhost]

Human science will not break through the walls of our Container (this Universe) because the same being that created it has said its physically impossible, and made it like that.

when my grandad was in school, they told him without a doubt that the atom could not be split, that it was the only solid block of existence. You're only limiting yourself by thinking like this.

I agree and get what you’re saying in general. I find this stuff mind-blowingly interesting myself. And, although I sounded like it, I really wasn’t trying to be negative on the research itself, I was just questioning any practical future application of it.

In other words: spend billions on something useful, like Earthquake detection, or new Fuel/Power source. Instead of LHC’s looking for darkmater, brane universes and other dimensions we probably can’t get into even if they’re there. That’s all I meant. What do you think about that?

pretty much agreed. our world is fallen and there's a lot of things we could do to clean up at home before we go trying to be all sci-fi.

[nowaysj]

We need to lose a huge chunk of the human population or find a new energy source. Bottom line. Personally, I'm inclined to find a new energy source and see what other planets are like.

[test_recordings]

We need to lose a huge chunk of the human population or find a new energy source. Bottom line. Personally, I'm inclined to find a new energy source and see what other planets are like.

We could just tap in to the 7.8Hz field that the earth's bathed in naturally, check out 'primordial energy generator' and see what you think. It is possible technically as you can draw a voltage from AM radio signals, in the '50s people used to charge batteries off ham radio operator signals if they werer strong enough apparently.

[clifford_-]

I read the title as Dejan Stankovic and was like wtf

>_>

[nowaysj]

We need to lose a huge chunk of the human population or find a new energy source. Bottom line. Personally, I'm inclined to find a new energy source and see what other planets are like.

We could just tap in to the 7.8Hz field that the earth's bathed in naturally, check out 'primordial energy generator' and see what you think. It is possible technically as you can draw a voltage from AM radio signals, in the '50s people used to charge batteries off ham radio operator signals if they werer strong enough apparently.

If this was viable, I believe people would be doing it. I got some homies that try to live off of the grid, smart peoples, they use wind and water to generate power, but not primordial energy. I believe they would if they could.

[test_recordings]

We need to lose a huge chunk of the human population or find a new energy source. Bottom line. Personally, I'm inclined to find a new energy source and see what other planets are like.

We could just tap in to the 7.8Hz field that the earth's bathed in naturally, check out 'primordial energy generator' and see what you think. It is possible technically as you can draw a voltage from AM radio signals, in the '50s people used to charge batteries off ham radio operator signals if they werer strong enough apparently.

If this was viable, I believe people would be doing it. I got some homies that try to live off of the grid, smart peoples, they use wind and water to generate power, but not primordial energy. I believe they would if they could.

They might not know it's viable? No-one has tried in university lab, that's the only way you can get something proved reliably generally. No-one thought electricity existed until some bright spark (oh ha ha ha) looked in to, or oil refining or radio waves or cars or computers or iron smelting etc. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, in science you've got to have an open mind or you'll get nowhere (the earth's flat, remember?)

[nowaysj]

My mind is relatively open brub, trust me on that one! I'd say I'm firmly in the tin hat realm, hehe, for better or worse.

There is a reason why electricity was understood when it was in our history, though. As I'm sure you're well aware, there is evidence that people were playing with electricity a couple of thousand years ago, but it never went anywhere because the requisite surrounding/supporting technologies weren't present.

Science is so competitive now, I believe if this was easily achievable, some scientist, somewhere, would be doing this and reporting their reproducible results. Think we need a better theoretical understanding, as well as increased technological capabilities.

But if I can get free energy now, please let me know, I drop a couple hundo a month on juice!

[test_recordings]

My mind is relatively open brub, trust me on that one! I'd say I'm firmly in the tin hat realm, hehe, for better or worse.

There is a reason why electricity was understood when it was in our history, though. As I'm sure you're well aware, there is evidence that people were playing with electricity a couple of thousand years ago, but it never went anywhere because the requisite surrounding/supporting technologies weren't present.

Science is so competitive now, I believe if this was easily achievable, some scientist, somewhere, would be doing this and reporting their reproducible results. Think we need a better theoretical understanding, as well as increased technological capabilities.

But if I can get free energy now, please let me know, I drop a couple hundo a month on juice!

I wouldn't assume anything, most physicists might be stuck in a paradigm that stipulates that it isn't possible because it doesn't exist. Do you know how science works? As based on Descartian empricism it's like playing dot to dot with what is known to be true, it's based literally on geometry for connecting and segmenting the universe. Not all science works like that, however, and there are other methods. Things may be 'out of sight', as it were, and so they are not being looked for currently.
Also, maybe more importantly, scientists train each other to think like their predecessors so they basically all think the same way. This is both good and bad as it means new scientists will be proficient in necessary methods of inquiry but that they will think the same as who taught them generally - if their predecessors missed something they too are, unfortunately, quite likely to do so themselves. It's where the terms 'paradigm' and 'pradigm shift' come from. Check out Thomas Kuhn if you're interested since he's the first person to think of science in a reflexive way to reveal that it's not a linear process involved in logical thinking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Struct ... evolutions

[noam]

watch this

section on Cartesian thinking is great

[nowaysj]

All true, but I still stand by my notion that if it was easily achievable, it would have been done, or would be under some type of serious research. There are plenty of renegades.

My mind is relatively open brub, trust me on that one! I'd say I'm firmly in the tin hat realm, hehe, for better or worse.

There is a reason why electricity was understood when it was in our history, though. As I'm sure you're well aware, there is evidence that people were playing with electricity a couple of thousand years ago, but it never went anywhere because the requisite surrounding/supporting technologies weren't present.

Science is so competitive now, I believe if this was easily achievable, some scientist, somewhere, would be doing this and reporting their reproducible results. Think we need a better theoretical understanding, as well as increased technological capabilities.

But if I can get free energy now, please let me know, I drop a couple hundo a month on juice!

I wouldn't assume anything, most physicists might be stuck in a paradigm that stipulates that it isn't possible because it doesn't exist. Do you know how science works? As based on Descartian empricism it's like playing dot to dot with what is known to be true, it's based literally on geometry for connecting and segmenting the universe. Not all science works like that, however, and there are other methods. Things may be 'out of sight', as it were, and so they are not being looked for currently.
Also, maybe more importantly, scientists train each other to think like their predecessors so they basically all think the same way. This is both good and bad as it means new scientists will be proficient in necessary methods of inquiry but that they will think the same as who taught them generally - if their predecessors missed something they too are, unfortunately, quite likely to do so themselves. It's where the terms 'paradigm' and 'pradigm shift' come from. Check out Thomas Kuhn if you're interested since he's the first person to think of science in a reflexive way to reveal that it's not a linear process involved in logical thinking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Struct ... evolutions

[test_recordings]

All true, but I still stand by my notion that if it was easily achievable, it would have been done, or would be under some type of serious research. There are plenty of renegades.

My mind is relatively open brub, trust me on that one! I'd say I'm firmly in the tin hat realm, hehe, for better or worse.

There is a reason why electricity was understood when it was in our history, though. As I'm sure you're well aware, there is evidence that people were playing with electricity a couple of thousand years ago, but it never went anywhere because the requisite surrounding/supporting technologies weren't present.

Science is so competitive now, I believe if this was easily achievable, some scientist, somewhere, would be doing this and reporting their reproducible results. Think we need a better theoretical understanding, as well as increased technological capabilities.

But if I can get free energy now, please let me know, I drop a couple hundo a month on juice!

I wouldn't assume anything, most physicists might be stuck in a paradigm that stipulates that it isn't possible because it doesn't exist. Do you know how science works? As based on Descartian empricism it's like playing dot to dot with what is known to be true, it's based literally on geometry for connecting and segmenting the universe. Not all science works like that, however, and there are other methods. Things may be 'out of sight', as it were, and so they are not being looked for currently.
Also, maybe more importantly, scientists train each other to think like their predecessors so they basically all think the same way. This is both good and bad as it means new scientists will be proficient in necessary methods of inquiry but that they will think the same as who taught them generally - if their predecessors missed something they too are, unfortunately, quite likely to do so themselves. It's where the terms 'paradigm' and 'pradigm shift' come from. Check out Thomas Kuhn if you're interested since he's the first person to think of science in a reflexive way to reveal that it's not a linear process involved in logical thinking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Struct ... evolutions

Hopefully I can do some experiments some time soon, I want to tap some AM frequency power (at least that has been proven and works on the same principle) and that would be a logical first step to towards tapping other fields

[nowaysj]

Hook a brub up, I need a cool 1kw/h.

[test_recordings]

Hook a brub up, I need a cool 1kw/h.

Man don't know you can crank dem tings wild wid yor arm an a transmission belt, yeah?