Obama announces that Osama Bin Laden is dead

[ahier]

Got up, have you seen the news? ..I read: "Obama dead"
- knew this would happen. Oh shit.. well hes next no doubt

Question..
how do you bury someone at sea?
.. all seems a bit suspect

don't think its bury in the traditional sense as in put in hole and cover with shit, rather bury as in put to rest after death

[ahier]

also

if anyone wants to make a conspiracy make a logical one

Obama kills osama----> emotional up tick for US----> slight portion of prosperity ----> withdrawl from afghanistan sped up----> 2012 election----> obama re-elected

that seems like what has/will happen, rather than a conspiracy theory. Logic and conspiracy theories don't really go hand in hand

[Duffman]

It all seems a bit fishy.....



That puns been made already, hasn't it?

[frank grimes jr.]

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Did someone say burial at sea?

Wait so Osama is burial?!!!!

Zomby sleeps with the fishes.
Get me?

[pkay]

Here's something from the vaults... Bush rejects taliban offer to surrender bin laden.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 31436.html

The offer yesterday from Haji Abdul Kabir, the Taliban's deputy prime minister, to surrender Mr bin Laden if America would halt its bombing and provide evidence against the Saudi-born dissident was not new but it suggested the Taliban are increasingly weary of the air strikes, which have crippled much of their military and communications assets.

there was one major flaw in the Taliban's offer

the one major flaw in your one major flaw argument is that Al Qaeda took credit for the 9-11 attacks.

[noam]

truesay

[WhosZena]

Got up, have you seen the news? ..I read: "Obama dead"
- knew this would happen. Oh shit.. well hes next no doubt

Question..
how do you bury someone at sea?
.. all seems a bit suspect

don't think its bury in the traditional sense as in put in hole and cover with shit, rather bury as in put to rest after death

beware of cross wires

[Badman Juice]

Here's something from the vaults... Bush rejects taliban offer to surrender bin laden.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 31436.html

The offer yesterday from Haji Abdul Kabir, the Taliban's deputy prime minister, to surrender Mr bin Laden if America would halt its bombing and provide evidence against the Saudi-born dissident was not new but it suggested the Taliban are increasingly weary of the air strikes, which have crippled much of their military and communications assets.

there was one major flaw in the Taliban's offer

the one major flaw in your one major flaw argument is that Al Qaeda took credit for the 9-11 attacks.

so did I but noone tried sell me to the CIA.

[WhosZena]

Prince Will:
"Fucking bearded man stealing my thunder"


thank you

[firky]

In other news, there's some funny shit popping up online already.

B3ta is on it like a fat chick on pizza.

[herbalicious]

White House - "Hi Osama, it's the White House here...now...someone has flown two planes into the WTC...was it you?"
Osama - "No"
WH - "Oh...We thoguht it would be with your beard and that...We've no idea who was behind it then...could you go on camera to say it's you...We'll put you up in a lovely home in Pakistan with guards and stuff, whores on tap and a fuck load of money, your relatives will get some dosh through their security companies we use and you'll never hear from us again...Or...we'll just says it's you anyway, hunt you down and kill you. Deal?"
O - "OK...sounds like a deal"

10 years later:
WH - "Hi Osama...it's us again.."
O - I thought you said..."
WH - "Never mind all that...We do not agree with the situation Bush put you in. We feel for you. We'd hate for that lot to get back in power again...wouldn't you? Tell you what....if we say we've killed you, they'll give us another term and everyone's happy!! We'll put you up in a lovely home somewhere with guards and stuff, whores on tap and a fuck load of money and you'll never hear from us again...Or...we'll just hunt you down and kill you anyway. Deal?"
O - "Urm....I suppose we have a deal".

[seckle]

the one thing that doesn't sit well with me is that Musharraf must've known that OBL was in Pakistan all this time, but either kept this information down for $$$, or as political leverage with the muslim brotherhood.

read his comments back in 2003
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-06-24/worl ... PM:asiapcf

[pkay]

so did I but noone tried sell me to the CIA.

You can't even make your forum trolling believable. Probably put you in the dumbass looking for attention pile like our forum does.

[pkay]

the one thing that doesn't sit well with me is that Musharraf must've known that OBL was in Pakistan all this time, but either kept this information down for $$$, or as political leverage with the muslim brotherhood.

read his comments back in 2003
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-06-24/worl ... PM:asiapcf

I think there has to be a level of blind eye shit going on. Talking with a few friends still in the military, about this time last year they stopped talking with Afghan/Pakistan forces about their high level intel operations. Basically just stopped asking for permission and magically the intel became more accurate.

I don't expect there to be any public fallout from this but behind closed doors I'm sure the US is telling them "if you can't clean up your leaks we're going to work around you from here on out"

In the middle east people take on mythical status fairly quickly. I expect this to have the same effect as when Hussein was captured as far as people feeling free to finally go against them and their ideals. Not comparing this to iraq, simply the notion of taking down a figurehead and how seeing a seemingly untouchable figured captured/killed completely changes how people process the situation.

[seckle]

the one thing that doesn't sit well with me is that Musharraf must've known that OBL was in Pakistan all this time, but either kept this information down for $$$, or as political leverage with the muslim brotherhood.

read his comments back in 2003
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-06-24/worl ... PM:asiapcf

I think there has to be a level of blind eye shit going on. Talking with a few friends still in the military, about this time last year they stopped talking with Afghan/Pakistan forces about their high level intel operations. Basically just stopped asking for permission and magically the intel became more accurate.

I don't expect there to be any public fallout from this but behind closed doors I'm sure the US is telling them "if you can't clean up your leaks we're going to work around you from here on out"

In the middle east people take on mythical status fairly quickly. I expect this to have the same effect as when Hussein was captured as far as people feeling free to finally go against them and their ideals. Not comparing this to iraq, simply the notion of taking down a figurehead and how seeing a seemingly untouchable figured captured/killed completely changes how people process the situation.

decapitating the heads of organizations is something that only ever has an effect for a limited time period. in some respects, its going to have little impact beyond the obvious monetary savings of having this gigantic operation to find him now finally over. its certainly not going to stop them at all. sebastian junger in his book fire, talks about what you're saying in regards to the high level intel, and about how it selectively becomes clear or foggy whenever convenient. when junger was in afghanistan, many times he documented during the tora bora bombings, that the ISI would regularly feed good intel with bad intel, so that they themselves would appear to the pakistani media as on the "hot pursuit" of alqaeda, when in reality they probably were just making sure to give US taxpayers our money's worth, and keep the payments coming. so we bombed some mountains and caves with results, and some purely for spectacle or to say that we did. its very interesting to see the difference between musharaf when he was on the payroll, and outspoken against alqaeda, but quiet when the money dried up. even more so when bhutto was killed, and it exposed just how corrupt he really was, both internally in Pakistan, but also regionally.

[pkay]

decapitating the heads of organizations is something that only ever has an effect for a limited time period. in some respects, its going to have little impact beyond the obvious monetary savings of having this gigantic operation to find him now finally over. its certainly not going to stop them at all. sebastian junger in his book fire, talks about what you're saying in regards to the high level intel, and about how it selectively becomes clear or foggy whenever convenient. when junger was in afghanistan, many times he documented during the tora bora bombings, that the ISI would regularly feed good intel with bad intel, so that they themselves would appear to the pakistani media as on the "hot pursuit" of alqaeda, when in reality they probably were just making sure to give US taxpayers our money's worth, and keep the payments coming. so we bombed some mountains and caves with results, and some purely for spectacle or to say that we did. its very interesting to see the difference between musharaf when he was on the payroll, and outspoken against alqaeda, but quiet when the money dried up. even more so when bhutto was killed, and it exposed just how corrupt he really was, both internally in Pakistan, but also regionally.

It's the permission to go against the thing you fear that will be stepping stone. Afghanistan is/was still in fear of Al Qaeda and no one dare go against them. This will change that for some and start to pull the string that unravels the sweater. I bet the amount of general intel gathered in afghanistan skyrockets the next few months.

In the middle east things just get to godlike status quickly and Osama hit that. For some it'll be a martyr rallying cry, for others it will be a burden lifted off their backs.

[drokkr]

For some it'll be a martyr rallying cry

Here is where things could get very out of handy and probably quite quickly too.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/nucle ... ida-101330

[seckle]

some interesting comments here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Osama_bin_Laden

[flyingointment]

The whole sea burial thing REEKS of shadiness. As far as I know, we've never done that for any of our other worst enemies that have been killed in combat, so it's perplexing why the US gov't would suddenly become so religiously sensitive.

[flyingointment]

Furthermore, it's not like the US is somehow morally above gleefully posting pictures of corpses for the public to fawn over, do you guys remember when Uday and Qusay were killed? I dunno if the media made a huge deal out of it there but out here, pics of their bloated corpses were everywhere. I don't just mean pics of their corpses, I mean like CLOSE-UPs of their faces in which you could see how they'd been mutilated and shit.

Yet we're supposed to believe that the Government has suddenly become much more tactful and religiously sensitive between now and then?