The history of Dubstep

[MandorliMusic]

hey mates!

I made a nice track "Storia" about the history of dubstep. It´s my first attempt to produce dubstep so I please you to give me feedback and give advice for some mixing techniques! Because I will release a new track the next few days and I am mixing it at the moment! Thank you mates! click the link below to listen to it! this is my third attempt to get some feedback and now I hope you, the experienced ones, could give me some advice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjpT58_qmTA

have a nice day!
Greez Mandorli

[joeki]

no sub bass what so ever. Midrange wobbles. There's a bit of space between the percussion so even though that's a bit too trip-hoppy for my taste, I can applaud that. Overall though this is not my cup of tea.

Pretty awkward to make a track about the history of dubstep and produce a one in a dozen contemporary tune...?

[MandorliMusic]

Yes the sub bass was a little to much for me and as I said this were my very beginnings U know? Okay and the thing with the percussion is very interesting I´ll remember that!
Awkward in my opinion is a track with 1 or 2 8bar loops like yours.. but thanks for your opinion!!

[kaiten]

Yes the sub bass was a little to much for me

[joeki]

Thanks for your advice on my track even though I didn't ask for it. I understand what you are saying BUT :
A garage tune is, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, supposed to be a tad bit repetitive. Anyway It got signed and released so I can't alter it any more. I won't participate in any further mud slinging about the quality of each others music.

You asked for an opinion, I gave one. I think it is flawed in two areas.
It lacks sub bass and I find it weird that this is promoted as a "history of dubstep" kind of thing when it's really a very contemporary tune.
I'm sure you'll get better critics/praise from people who are more into that sound.
Try working towards a sound that is more unique is the bottom line of what I'm trying to say.

[MandorliMusic]

don´t get me wrong dude cause I think I didn´t get you right in your first post! Yes I think it´s great that your music has got many many intersts as I saw on your soundcloud profile .. But calling it awkward was shameless in my opinion.. after all I am glad to hear your opinion and the best part bout music is that there will never be a track which is in the likings of everyone or not?

Wish you the best and keep on the good work!

[ajw11491]

But calling it awkward was shameless in my opinion..

Dude, have you ever had any training or lessons with a musical instrument and/or a private teacher? Professionals have no problem chewing you out, breaking you down, and making you start over again. Just because Dubstep is not classical or main stream doesn't mean you can't take a main stream approach to making your chops better. Saying something sounds "awkward" is just a nice way of saying a lot of other things that probably could be said. In all honesty, you're not going to get all positive feed back on your tunes, especially when you ask for criticism. I thought it sounded pretty good though in some aspects. Anyways I am not trying to get personal or anything, just pointing out the fact; to make it far with anything in the arts or music, you have to be able to take some serious criticism and if that offends you, then you may be looking for the wrong hobby or career choice. Peace.

[kaiten]

But calling it awkward was shameless in my opinion..

Dude, have you ever had any training or lessons with a musical instrument and/or a private teacher? Professionals have no problem chewing you out, breaking you down, and making you start over again. Just because Dubstep is not classical or main stream doesn't mean you can't take a main stream approach to making your chops better. Saying something sounds "awkward" is just a nice way of saying a lot of other things that probably could be said. In all honesty, you're not going to get all positive feed back on your tunes, especially when you ask for criticism. I thought it sounded pretty good though in some aspects. Anyways I am not trying to get personal or anything, just pointing out the fact; to make it far with anything in the arts or music, you have to be able to take some serious criticism and if that offends you, then you may be looking for the wrong hobby or career choice. Peace.

For real. I have a BA in Studio Art and trust me, my professors never had any problems with telling me 20 different ways why my painting or drawing was wrong when I could have sworn I was done with it.

[MandorliMusic]

Ajw you are my hero!

And yes kaiten thanks for your saying! Before making dubstep I was playing drums for 12 years and wrote lots of Art Rock songs. So I know what good critics are and I think you know what you are talking bout.

Greez

[flood]

no sub bass what so ever. Midrange wobbles. There's a bit of space between the percussion so even though that's a bit too trip-hoppy for my taste, I can applaud that. Overall though this is not my cup of tea.

Pretty awkward to make a track about the history of dubstep and produce a one in a dozen contemporary tune...?

i admire your restraint(with the criticism)

to mandorli: you asked for criticism.

[HatchetDown]

I'm pretty much on the same stance. Dubstep with no bass is like a dog with 3 legs. Sure it can walk on its own but it just don't look right.

[Messter]

isn't it a little bit slow?? it doesn't sounds like a 140bpm track

[MandorliMusic]

Just to make sure in my latest track I used a sub bass You are right it gives just more punch and everything.. Sounds just fatter!
@ Messter: Yes you are right it is around 123 I think! In my opinion it sounded a little darker in slow tempo. Is 140 a "must have"!? I think it depends on your unique track or not? But in general 140 is the typical Dubstep - Feel Thanks!

[apmje]

Just to make sure in my latest track I used a sub bass You are right it gives just more punch and everything.. Sounds just fatter!
@ Messter: Yes you are right it is around 123 I think! In my opinion it sounded a little darker in slow tempo. Is 140 a "must have"!? I think it depends on your unique track or not? But in general 140 is the typical Dubstep - Feel Thanks!

I can't take this place no more...this week has been properly funny.

[wilson]

So this 'history of dubstep' track has no sub and isn't at 140...right

[hendramarshall]

So this 'history of dubstep' track has no sub and isn't at 140...right

[ajw11491]

Ajw you are my hero!

[Vi Del]

waaaayyyyyt wuh?

[Icey]

But calling it awkward was shameless in my opinion..

Dude, have you ever had any training or lessons with a musical instrument and/or a private teacher? Professionals have no problem chewing you out, breaking you down, and making you start over again. Just because Dubstep is not classical or main stream doesn't mean you can't take a main stream approach to making your chops better. Saying something sounds "awkward" is just a nice way of saying a lot of other things that probably could be said. In all honesty, you're not going to get all positive feed back on your tunes, especially when you ask for criticism. I thought it sounded pretty good though in some aspects. Anyways I am not trying to get personal or anything, just pointing out the fact; to make it far with anything in the arts or music, you have to be able to take some serious criticism and if that offends you, then you may be looking for the wrong hobby or career choice. Peace.

This. Every time I presented something new to my guitar teacher, he put on his stone face and just torn up the part. Really fun guy, but man, when he started critising.

On topic, the tune wasn't good. It was in no way the story of dubstep, no sub bass etc etc etc

[south3rn]

you've successfully disgraced the history of dubstep