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Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by legend4ry » Fri May 06, 2011 2:35 pm

Okay......New thread, new start.


Post examples if what sound you want to make - if your question is answered please try (if you can) to help someone back.
















If you can't help someone back please contribute somewhere within the forum.

Add to the production guide.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by RandoRando » Sat May 07, 2011 5:30 am

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by Sine69 » Sat May 07, 2011 6:01 am

I guess I'll kick this off.


I want to make the sound in Blood Red by Feed Me that starts at :56. I'm a noob at production, and I'm sure that there's an easy way to do it, but I can't seem to find it out :lol:
I have Massive and Razor, if that helps ;-)

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by jrisreal » Sat May 07, 2011 6:04 am

Sticky this one Legend4ry

EDIT: Why is this thread not stickied?
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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by ChadDub » Sat May 07, 2011 6:11 am

Sticky this.

I don't know how to make that sound, Sine, but I have a question.

How do I get the sound effects like in movies where it's like flying at you? It's like, 3d sound or something.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by jrisreal » Sat May 07, 2011 6:17 am

ChadDub wrote:Sticky this.

I don't know how to make that sound, Sine, but I have a question.

How do I get the sound effects like in movies where it's like flying at you? It's like, 3d sound or something.
i think that's called binaural sound...im not sure though
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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by jrisreal » Sat May 07, 2011 6:20 am

Sine69 wrote:I guess I'll kick this off.


I want to make the sound in Blood Red by Feed Me that starts at :56. I'm a noob at production, and I'm sure that there's an easy way to do it, but I can't seem to find it out :lol:
I have Massive and Razor, if that helps ;-)
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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by erratech » Sat May 07, 2011 6:37 am

The sound flying towards you is probably the Doppler effect. Im not sure what plugins do this, have a google and look on kvr. The noise in feedme track sounds like an organ with really wet chorus and/or leslie simulation and some glitch/buffer fx.
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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by budsteq » Sat May 07, 2011 7:23 am

the first set of keys that play in this song. from 0.00 , any help would be much appreciated (Y)


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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by nnny » Sat May 07, 2011 1:49 pm

Can't help, but +1 for wanting to hear the keys above ^^

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by bassinine » Sat May 07, 2011 2:00 pm

i don't mean to sound like an ass, but that's not how you make that feed me sound. he synthesizes it, the bass in cloudburn is better though.

but, i don't know how to do it. the closest i've come is using my access virus or massive, using the wavetables, automating those and effects like chorus/phaser/etc. of course, using the wavetables like deepthroat m-talk, or other vocal sounding waveforms on the virus.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by paravrais » Sat May 07, 2011 2:34 pm

Not sure which part of the sound at 0:56 you mean but the bottom part sounds like an organ low passed with some chorus and dblue glitch on it. The top part sounds like maybe a square and a saw slightly detuned with some bitcrushing and slight reverb on it.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by Sine69 » Sat May 07, 2011 7:36 pm

paravrais wrote:Not sure which part of the sound at 0:56 you mean but the bottom part sounds like an organ low passed with some chorus and dblue glitch on it. The top part sounds like maybe a square and a saw slightly detuned with some bitcrushing and slight reverb on it.

I was talking about the top part, probably should have specified :lol:
I'll give that a try though, thanks ;-)

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by Ascian » Sat May 07, 2011 9:59 pm

budsteq wrote:the first set of keys that play in this song. from 0.00 , any help would be much appreciated (Y)

That sound is all about the envelope (ADSR) that you give the synth's amp section.

Try to take a mixture of square waves (one down an octave and volume down a bit) then in the amp envelope, go for a very short attack (almost immediate), then a decent decay and the decay level RIGHT down

Maybe play around with the oscillator wave and wavetable along with ring modding and phasing and see what you come up with for a more unique sound

After that you want to layer it with some strings with the same amp envelope settings

In Massive it looks something like this (it won't be exactly right as I wasn't listening to the song when I did it):

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by ragingjello » Sun May 08, 2011 10:04 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU75uz0b8EU
The lead sound. Most of my leads are really weak and this is the kind of sound I try to go for--and fail at. I use Reason 5. Thanks in advance :D

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by Estondo » Mon May 09, 2011 1:59 pm

i use reason 4 and im looking for a lead synth something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVUnpkvgHaw

also do you know of any producers that strictly use reason for dubstep, i've only been producing for 7 months and i dont want to bring in any Vst's because i'll most likely mess up my work flow.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by Dyssomnia » Mon May 09, 2011 2:07 pm

ragingjello wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU75uz0b8EU
The lead sound. Most of my leads are really weak and this is the kind of sound I try to go for--and fail at. I use Reason 5. Thanks in advance :D
If you mean the starting lead sound:
I don't think you can get far at this if you haven't played Legend of Zelda.

Jk: It's an ocarina, probably sampled from the game :)

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Post by Dyssomnia » Mon May 09, 2011 2:12 pm

Estondo wrote:i use reason 4 and im looking for a lead synth something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVUnpkvgHaw

also do you know of any producers that strictly use reason for dubstep, i've only been producing for 7 months and i dont want to bring in any Vst's because i'll most likely mess up my work flow.
There are not a lot of producers that STRICTLY use Reason for Dubstep, but to mention a few: Cookie monsta, Hizzle guy, Dismantle.
Actually, learning the ropes in Reason is pretty good as it has a very low learning curve IMO.
On the contrary, I recommend you use a different DAW in combination with Reason, for example ReWire it in Ableton or Logic.

As for your question, Skrillex is known for his extensive use of automation.
Trying to make exact the same sound as someone else is a great exercise for developing your own trademark as well as it is great for your production in general.
Oh and I don't have a clue how he made that sound, sorry, but I do know that the Thor instance is capable of creating Skrillex's sounds. (doh)

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by Dyssomnia » Mon May 09, 2011 2:32 pm

As for my own question: (sorry for making 3 posts ): )
As some of you might know, I've been trying to recreate the so-called 'dungeon' sound for a while now.
Well, I actually figured out how to make it to a certain extent, I think detuned squares and filter automation is an important part, but most 'dungeon' artists seem to have their sound design a lot further.
Artists like Sleeper, Thelem, Crisp etc can really make their sounds 'alive' as if some mutated alien-egg is hatched 1 km below the surface.
I just mention these artists so you know which sound I mean, I do not wish to copy their songs ;-)
So basically, my question is: how can I make these things sound more like they do in good songs?

1. Will a z-plane filter help?
I'm pretty noobish when it comes to filtering and/or FM Synthesis and I do not if a z-plane filter is even possible to reproduce in Reason, but I didn't find any z-plane plugins for Ableton either.
Wub already explained the essentials of a fore mentioned filter, but I'm having a hard time translating his instructions into Reason.
I don't even know if a z-plane filter will help. In a song like 'Scanners' by Sleeper, it looks more like he's using Sugar Bytes WOW filter with a low gain to open the filter just a tiny bit.

2. Are pitch bends the key?
I'm able to recreate sounds like in Foreseen by Freeze & LX ONE, but that has more to do with envelopes rather than pitch bend automation.
However, in tracks like 'Distilled' by Thelem, he seems to use the same type of bassline, yet it creates a different atmosphere each time you hear it in the song.
My wannabe-dungeon bassline I can make in Reason isn't very 'pitchable', as the sub will get very loud when I pitch it up.
When I pitch it down, the bassline starts to stutter. Is this because I use detuned squares as a start or is there a thing in one of my other devices which edit the bassline not set properly?

3. Are overdriven filters necessary?
I also use to overdrive my LP filters a lot. I don't really know why, as I'm still learning about this kinda stuff, but I found out it helps producing the sound I want.
Besides these overdriven filters, I still need to use several Scream 4 units to make it sound more interesting.

Okay, things are getting out of hand here, I could think of a million other questions I'd like to ask, but I will wait for the answers on these first and ofc try to contribute to this new topic!

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by hutyluty » Mon May 09, 2011 3:48 pm

sorry.. i'm no good at any synthesis really, can't really help :(

but i would really like to know how to get a similar sound to the gritty, acidy sound heard here at 0:59



i've got two saw waves, res about halfway up but i'm missing the grittiness, is there distortion needed in there? :w:
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