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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by jrisreal » Tue May 10, 2011 10:31 pm

symmetricalsounds wrote:
jrisreal wrote:I vote we start a new DSF and leave this one to rot...or we can solve every problem by banning Chad :P lol
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jrisreal please listen to 2day.

i know you probably don't think this but you are part of the very problem we're trying to sort out here. you've been registered for a couple of months and have more posts than people who have been here 2/3/4 years.

as was stated earlier the good posts to wasteman posts ratio is weighed so heavily on the waste side atm which is annoying. apart from that i'm with kaori in that there isn't much else wrong. yeah sometimes there is a lack of good threads but we can change that.

for me the ableton q+a thread is my favourite on here, never any bitching, barely any inane chatter which doesn't mean we don't have a laugh but there is a big difference between a cpl of joke posts and tons of inane bullshit. n00bs that come on that thread actually listen when we give them advice. when we say things like if you explain your problem fully, provide screenshots etc... you're more likely to get help they seem to listen. i genuinely try to help anyone in that thread that i can because i know the atomosphere of the thread is always a positive one and it does give back to me too. i pick up tips from there all the time from people of varying experience/knowledge levels.
this does make me sad :( . its the second time I've been told exactly this. I've been posting, not trying to gain post counts (trust me thats the last thing on my mind) but to help people out. I'm willing to tone it down though for the sake of the forum.

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I know that...its better :mrgreen:
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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by kaiori breathe » Tue May 10, 2011 10:40 pm

jrisreal wrote: this does make me sad :( . its the second time I've been told exactly this. I've been posting, not trying to gain post counts (trust me thats the last thing on my mind) but to help people out. I'm willing to tone it down though for the sake of the forum.
If it's any consolation I haven't seen any posts by you that particularly irked me, even the irrelevant ones don't bother me because you're not being a cock, trolling, or annoying anybody intentionally, and while you might be a bit over the top with your posting I don't feel it's really denigrating the standard of the forum, you're just being yourself it seems to me, and your posts aren't going to stop anybody who has more knowledge or experience from contributing... This whole "people post too much" argument holds little to no weight with me and I'm sure many others.
lysergene wrote:I've been teaching people how to make music using computers (aka music production) for five years now and I'm keen to interject that you can teach creativity and that there are different levels of ability, of course there are!
Overall we seem to be on opposing sides of this whole debate but on that point I'd definitely agree with you... ...Although I've no idea how that came up as I haven't read the previous page...

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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by Majin » Tue May 10, 2011 10:53 pm

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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by lysergene » Tue May 10, 2011 11:33 pm

Sorry guys I edited my reply for so long that it's different now lol - I'm tired! :oops:

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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by gkmusic » Wed May 11, 2011 6:13 am

I dunno if I could be considered part of the community on here seeing as I' very rarely post/check the forum anymore.. but I'd say part of the reason my interest in DSFp dried up was because of the decrease in engaging and progressive posts and the influx of a whole new generation of beat geeks. Think the idea of a sub-forum is on the money, at least one that doesn't deal with the very basic of DAW issues like sequencing/quantising and posts such as "How to make dis baseline" etc.

I honestly think that'll sort it out the majority of problems on here, I don't think a cap or restriction of any sorts would be wise, I've been on a couple of horrible grime/dnb forums that are terribly restrictive, with stuff like "to view/post in this section you must have X amount of posts" which really takes away from the "learning" experience (also fun) you get from a forum and turns into a sort some of system and I doubt music is about that. I think the sub-forum should just be maintained, and any post that don't need to be there get deleted. Simple as, whether that is possible or not is another issssue but that just my opinion
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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by Karoshi » Wed May 11, 2011 6:53 am

Every forum i have ever been on, the older members seem to remember the 'older better days' of the forum.
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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by nowaysj » Wed May 11, 2011 7:12 am

Seems like you go around ruining forums doesn't it? :lol:
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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by grooki » Wed May 11, 2011 8:00 am

lysergene wrote:I've been teaching people how to make music using computers (aka music production) for five years now and I'm keen to interject that you can teach creativity and that there are different levels of ability, of course there are!
Yes I totally agree with this. It's like there's primary school, high school, university etc. Different levels of knowledge and education. I think the idea of distinguish between levels of ability makes people squeamish, but we do it all the time in society, sometimes it's bad, but often it's a good thing.

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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by symmetricalsounds » Wed May 11, 2011 9:36 am

jrisreal wrote:its the second time I've been told exactly this. I've been posting, not trying to gain post counts (trust me thats the last thing on my mind) but to help people out. I'm willing to tone it down though for the sake of the forum.
don't take it too personally, you were close and on the radar so an easier hit to make my point. try just posting a little less and see how it goes. i'm not saying you should stop trying to help people out but in a thread talking about how we can improve this place comments about how we should fuck it off and how you want to be a mod etc... just aren't helpful.

also word of advice for general forum behaviour, begging to be a mod is a great way to never become one although i'm not sure why you would want to be a mod it's a thankless task.

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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by Depone » Wed May 11, 2011 9:53 am

gkmusic wrote:I dunno if I could be considered part of the community on here seeing as I' very rarely post/check the forum anymore.. but I'd say part of the reason my interest in DSFp dried up was because of the decrease in engaging and progressive posts and the influx of a whole new generation of beat geeks. Think the idea of a sub-forum is on the money, at least one that doesn't deal with the very basic of DAW issues like sequencing/quantising and posts such as "How to make dis baseline" etc.

I honestly think that'll sort it out the majority of problems on here, I don't think a cap or restriction of any sorts would be wise, I've been on a couple of horrible grime/dnb forums that are terribly restrictive, with stuff like "to view/post in this section you must have X amount of posts" which really takes away from the "learning" experience (also fun) you get from a forum and turns into a sort some of system and I doubt music is about that. I think the sub-forum should just be maintained, and any post that don't need to be there get deleted. Simple as, whether that is possible or not is another issssue but that just my opinion
I think this sums up how i feel too

Is anyone going to take any kind of action? At least we could trial the idea of advanced subforum

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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by serox » Wed May 11, 2011 10:07 am

Depone wrote:
gkmusic wrote:I dunno if I could be considered part of the community on here seeing as I' very rarely post/check the forum anymore.. but I'd say part of the reason my interest in DSFp dried up was because of the decrease in engaging and progressive posts and the influx of a whole new generation of beat geeks. Think the idea of a sub-forum is on the money, at least one that doesn't deal with the very basic of DAW issues like sequencing/quantising and posts such as "How to make dis baseline" etc.

I honestly think that'll sort it out the majority of problems on here, I don't think a cap or restriction of any sorts would be wise, I've been on a couple of horrible grime/dnb forums that are terribly restrictive, with stuff like "to view/post in this section you must have X amount of posts" which really takes away from the "learning" experience (also fun) you get from a forum and turns into a sort some of system and I doubt music is about that. I think the sub-forum should just be maintained, and any post that don't need to be there get deleted. Simple as, whether that is possible or not is another issssue but that just my opinion
I think this sums up how i feel too

Is anyone going to take any kind of action? At least we could trial the idea of advanced subforum

This.

I think maybe a voting system or invite to get access :D bit elitist but oh well
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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by Debaser1 » Wed May 11, 2011 10:09 am

My theory is that we have two separate forums. This will sort the 'wheat from the chaff', the 'men from the boys' etc. Have a thread forum for audiphillia, geekery, production nerdery, equipment etc etc. THEN have another separate forum for 'how to make sounds', 'starting in dubstep', 'work in progresses', 'tutorials' etc. I know this seems like pure capitalism/fashism, but I'm not gonna lie, something drastic like that is the only was DSF can be saved - production wise. I think the high level geekery of the actual new production forum will be like a kinda door policy, and it'll scare off thew sKr1!/eX bAss!iNe 0o0o_-_0o threads - or at least, send them to a separate section of DSF.
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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by legend4ry » Wed May 11, 2011 11:30 am

Frodo Bassbins wrote:no offence legendary but ever since youve became a mod things have gotten alot gayer.

constantly deleting questionable threads (things that could be left up, arent repeated questions, but you just find some reason that it shouldn't be here..)

there have been numerous times i can think of when i opened up a thread that was prepared to answer or try to help the person and then see LOCKED READ STICKIES NOOB LOLOLOLOL.

before you were a mod very rarely would i see locked threads.. but during that first period you became mod you just went ape shit with the ban hammer... power hungry? starved for affection? i dno. either way it was wack and im glad youve cooled off a bit and hopefully will continue to do so.
Ive never banned someone or trolled... Infact, I can't ban anyone.

Theres only been a few threads ive locked what haven't been reported ( I can count the amount on one hand)... Everything I lock or move has been reported more than once...The reason nothing was moderated before I was a mod was because it was only Sharmaji on his own and the other mods before he was one didn't go into production... Everyones asking for stricter modding anyways..

You're entitled to your opinion obviously but the majority appreciate it and want it stricter..

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As to everyones ideas and requests... Some are going to take a while to see if we can impliment it.. We have a new mod lined up and we will be much stricter.. Which is all we can do at this exact moment but in the not-to-distant future we will try and get a forum split and that if theres enough votes (poll will be put up by the end of the week).


THIS THREAD WILL BE LOCKED ON MONDAY PLEASE GET YOUR SUGGESTIONS IN BEFORE THEN.

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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by jrisreal » Wed May 11, 2011 1:28 pm

symmetricalsounds wrote:comments about how we should fuck it off and how you want to be a mod etc... just aren't helpful.
I wasn't saying I wanted to be a mod. And the whole idea about a new DSF was just an idea so that we could start off new, yknow.
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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by hutyluty » Wed May 11, 2011 1:57 pm

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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by symmetricalsounds » Wed May 11, 2011 3:01 pm

jrisreal wrote:
symmetricalsounds wrote:comments about how we should fuck it off and how you want to be a mod etc... just aren't helpful.
I wasn't saying I wanted to be a mod. And the whole idea about a new DSF was just an idea so that we could start off new, yknow.
you never said you wanted to be a mod?
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Medik wrote:
jrisreal wrote:
Medik wrote:
jrisreal wrote:I vote we start a new DSF and leave this one to rot...or we can solve every problem by banning Chad :P lol
I say we create Brostepforum and kick all the Skrillex heads out to that. Leaving a happy Dubstepforum again. :corndance:
Can I still be a mod? :corndance:
Is anyone getting the impression that jrisreal wants to be a mod? . . .



. . . Nah probably just me. :6:
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jrisreal wrote:
Medik wrote:
jrisreal wrote:I vote we start a new DSF and leave this one to rot...or we can solve every problem by banning Chad :P lol
I say we create Brostepforum and kick all the Skrillex heads out to that. Leaving a happy Dubstepforum again. :corndance:
Can I still be a mod? :corndance:
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ChadDub wrote:NOT COOL
Dude it was a Joke lol the serious part is the part about a new DSF. Like one exclusively fo producers...maybe not even focuses on dubstep. And I nominate myself to be a mod if it happens because it's my idea
i added the bold.
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deadly habit wrote:we need more active moderators
as im sure everybody knows, I'm fairly active :lol:
also these inane posts in just this thread
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mks wrote:there does seem to be an influx of people that just signed up two months ago and already have a thousand posts.
First noways talks Sh*t about me, now you? lol just kidding man. when i post, I usually try to be constructive...and tbh I have nothing better to do
again i added the bold.
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nowaysj wrote:Don't like aim. Aim has its purpose, private focused conversation. But I generally prefer general public conversation. There's always been newbies around here, myself included to an extent, but it is all about the ratio. Way to many newbies now, way to few veterans.

And yes, I'm talking shit about you. 8)

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I KNEW IT, NOWAYS HATES ME AND WANTS ME OFF THE FORUM :crybaby: :i: :lol:
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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by wub » Wed May 11, 2011 3:05 pm

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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by jrisreal » Wed May 11, 2011 3:12 pm

symmetricalsounds wrote:
jrisreal wrote: I wasn't saying I wanted to be a mod. And the whole idea about a new DSF was just an idea so that we could start off new, yknow.
you never said you wanted to be a mod?
No I wasn't. We were joking about making brostepforum. I have no intentions of actually being a mod. Chill out
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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by symmetricalsounds » Wed May 11, 2011 3:24 pm

jrisreal wrote:
symmetricalsounds wrote:
jrisreal wrote: I wasn't saying I wanted to be a mod. And the whole idea about a new DSF was just an idea so that we could start off new, yknow.
you never said you wanted to be a mod?
No I wasn't. We were joking about making brostepforum. I have no intentions of actually being a mod. Chill out
well course you have no intentions, it wouldn't matter if you did you're saying it like it's your choice.

also i'll chill out plenty once you shut the fuck up.

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Re: Serious time, folks.

Post by jobbanaught » Wed May 11, 2011 3:49 pm

symmetricalsounds wrote:
jrisreal wrote:
symmetricalsounds wrote:
jrisreal wrote: I wasn't saying I wanted to be a mod. And the whole idea about a new DSF was just an idea so that we could start off new, yknow.
you never said you wanted to be a mod?
No I wasn't. We were joking about making brostepforum. I have no intentions of actually being a mod. Chill out
well course you have no intentions, it wouldn't matter if you did you're saying it like it's your choice.

also i'll chill out plenty once you shut the fuck up.

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