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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by CookieMonster » Sun May 15, 2011 6:35 pm

yeah so how do i make the wobble sound in this tune? I'm pretty close just need a few tweaks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-9Fn81flj8

I'm also stuck on the automation both rate and filer that goes on, it sounds simple but i cant seem to nail it.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by wub » Sun May 15, 2011 6:41 pm

CookieMonster wrote:yeah so how do i make the wobble sound in this tune? I'm pretty close just need a few tweaks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-9Fn81flj8

I'm also stuck on the automation both rate and filer that goes on, it sounds simple but i cant seem to nail it.
As was stated;

Square wave. lowpass filter and lfo. sounds like it has some reverb on aswell


When you say you're stuck on the automation rate & filter, how do you mean? The LFO rate in the example you've posted seems to be fairly standard, so I'd recommend either automating your LFO to switch up/down as the track progresses, or else bounce out examples of the bass w/ wobble at lots of different speeds (1, 2, 4, 8, 16 etc) then chopping up each bassline and creating a cut & paste of the samples in the playlist editor, so that it switches seamlessly between the speeds.

(This technique will also reduce processing power as a nice aside, as you're dealing with audio clips instead of having to keep the instrument itself active.)

In terms of the filter, that is going to be trail and error. It does sound to be lowpass, but in terms of getting exactly right what you are hearing, that will vary greatly depending on how close to the original sound you have achieved with your synth programming.

Can I ask what DAW/synth/filter you're currently using to try & emulate this?

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by CookieMonster » Sun May 15, 2011 6:46 pm

thanks, yeah i'm using thor in reason, by the rate i mean when it gets faster and theres like a slow wooooob, then fast one twice, haha kind of hard to explain.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by wub » Sun May 15, 2011 6:53 pm

CookieMonster wrote:thanks, yeah i'm using thor in reason, by the rate i mean when it gets faster and theres like a slow wooooob, then fast one twice, haha kind of hard to explain.
Ok, then it'll be the LFO rate you're referring to. There is a thread about varying the LFO rate in Reason here - http://www.dubstepforum.com/varying-lfo ... 42988.html

From what I understand, you can make the LFO rate tweakable in real time by linking it your MIDI controller (if you have one), or drawing in the automation lane (if you don't).

Both techniques are explained in detail in that thread I have linked to. The video that is contained within is sadly no longer available, but I did find a similar one on YouTube that seems to cover wobble bass within Thor that you might find useful;


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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by CookieMonster » Sun May 15, 2011 7:01 pm

cheers dude but i dont think you understand, i'm not a noob to all this i understand automation lfo's, etc, but i want the pacific setting for the wobble bass in this track, like were i place the dots on the automation lane, and what rate is set at, i've been ask to do a remix of it and i need the pacific setting for this track as the artist is on holiday i'm not able to contact him, i just thought maybe some one more experienced than myself could work it out.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by wub » Sun May 15, 2011 7:06 pm

CookieMonster wrote:cheers dude but i dont think you understand, i'm not a noob to all this i understand automation lfo's, etc, but i want the pacific setting for the wobble bass in this track, like were i place the dots on the automation lane, and what rate is set at, i've been ask to do a remix of it and i need the pacific setting for this track as the artist is on holiday i'm not able to contact him, i just thought maybe some one more experienced than myself could work it out.
Fair enough.

You could try posting what you've got so far vs. what you're trying to acheive to see if anyone can give an insight into exact settings. Failing that, until you can get ahold of the guy for the specific settings, it'll be trial & error.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by Nickelwound » Sun May 15, 2011 9:30 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCOyrRgef-Q

Its skrillex and im not asking bout the bass recreation, but bout the synths that quickly appear at 0.52. Those sound so damn fat to me I must know how to make them, I tried various combinations with instrument rack/operator and massive in ableton, but I only came a litlle close to getting a ''STRINGSTHATSOUNDLIKESHITISGOINGTOGODOWNOOOHSSHHI-''-synth. Any thoughts on how to properly remake sound remnisicent of what I posted would be great :D.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by T-Flex » Tue May 17, 2011 8:26 am

Sine69 wrote:I guess I'll kick this off.


I want to make the sound in Blood Red by Feed Me that starts at :56. I'm a noob at production, and I'm sure that there's an easy way to do it, but I can't seem to find it out :lol:
I have Massive and Razor, if that helps ;-)
I love that song so I did some work trying to recreate that synth in Logic Pro's ES2 synthesizer and I think I did pretty well. I can post a tutorial if you like, or if you don't have Logic I could try to recreate it in Massive and make a tutorial of that.

What I did wasn't too complicated though. I used a sine wave + 2 saw waves (NOT detuned at all), mixed 50% sine and 50% saws. I ran these all through a Band Pass filter at a high-mid frequency (this changes though as the riff progresses) with 75% resonance. However, the most important thing that I did which might just be the only really accurate part of the re-creation was routing the Volume/Amp of the synth into an LFO that is beat-synced and running on a sine wave at a rate of 1/32 note. This creates the sort of "bity" part of the synth. If you listen to the track carefully, it sounds like this LFO changes rates throughout the riff.

Let me know if that helps. I don't think that there is a Bitcrusher or any other kind of Distortion used but you can try them out and see if you disagree.

P.S. I'd also be very interested in seeing how to re-create that synth from the Xilent song, that's a beastly track.
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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by xsimplyfilthx » Tue May 17, 2011 5:42 pm

Does Anyone know how to make the combination of synths at the drop at 1:08? This sound is so unique and have been searching for months on how to create it, any ideas? Or if anyone can point me in the right direction all help is appreciated! THanks! Cheers
http://youtu.be/Y7RbkOCX8cU

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by ChadDub » Tue May 17, 2011 6:17 pm

Lol that's not unique, it's just a simple Massive patch.

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by BeastModeForDummies » Wed May 18, 2011 5:31 am

looking for any tips on making this sound i dont want to sample it i want to create so a point in the right direction waveforms etc would be greatly appreciated

the sound at the very start, its probably very simple but i really dont have a clue where to start



LOL I am just starting to use FL for dubstep and this is the only vid that showed me how to open Sytrus! Thanks, at least you helped me out. :)
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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by jrisreal » Wed May 18, 2011 5:34 am

BeastModeForDummies wrote:looking for any tips on making this sound i dont want to sample it i want to create so a point in the right direction waveforms etc would be greatly appreciated

the sound at the very start, its probably very simple but i really dont have a clue where to start



man everybody who uses that sound in hiphop just samples it. i have no idea how to synthesize it but i got a sample
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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by BeastModeForDummies » Wed May 18, 2011 5:38 am

yea i figured i didnt want the exact sounds i hear something in my head thats kinda like this though so itd be a great starting point, the first thing i googled was "how to make the riser in white girl young jeezy" no luck lol
LOL I am just starting to use FL for dubstep and this is the only vid that showed me how to open Sytrus! Thanks, at least you helped me out. :)
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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by xsimplyfilthx » Wed May 18, 2011 5:59 am

ChadDub wrote:Lol that's not unique, it's just a simple Massive patch.
Would you happen to know where i could find that patch, if not what that type of synth is called (reese??), and if you cant find the patch would you know how to create it?

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by BeastModeForDummies » Wed May 18, 2011 6:08 am

xsimplyfilthx wrote:
ChadDub wrote:Lol that's not unique, it's just a simple Massive patch.
Would you happen to know where i could find that patch, if not what that type of synth is called (reese??), and if you cant find the patch would you know how to create it?
still fairly new to production, but that doesnt sound like massive to me. and i dont think youd need it anyways. not trying to force you into my track but check out the synth in it. square saw saw and made in 3xosc. gl man hope this helps
LOL I am just starting to use FL for dubstep and this is the only vid that showed me how to open Sytrus! Thanks, at least you helped me out. :)
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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by ChadDub » Wed May 18, 2011 6:35 am

BeastModeForDummies wrote:yea i figured i didnt want the exact sounds i hear something in my head thats kinda like this though so itd be a great starting point, the first thing i googled was "how to make the riser in white girl young jeezy" no luck lol
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27109137/riser1.fst

hmm?

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by Dyssomnia » Wed May 18, 2011 6:54 am

ChadDub wrote:Lol that's not unique, it's just a simple Massive patch.
That's the most useful answer ever.
When someone comes up with a question, let's just say: LOL that's not unique, it's just a simple massive patch!
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ChadDub wrote:Lol that's not unique, it's just a simple Massive patch.
Would you happen to know where i could find that patch, if not what that type of synth is called (reese??), and if you cant find the patch would you know how to create it?
Did you do any research on this except for asking?
Not trying to be a dik here, but the first video that came up after searching "Create a dirty dubstep synth" handles this 'unique' bassline.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDv5K5OV-M
There it is. Now, if you still can't figure out how to make it DM me, I got some advanced patches on my PC, but I'm pretty busy with college and stuff so it might take a while before I get to you.
Good luck!

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by Etches828 » Wed May 18, 2011 10:47 am

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The bass that pitches downwards in this, the sort of Weeeeeeeooooooow
Is that chorused detuned squares or is that some sort of Sine run through a filter or FM synthesis? It sounds pretty simple really but I think used in some of the ideas im working with in my tunes at the moment it could really make them hard hitting

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by Rekah » Wed May 18, 2011 10:57 am

how would you make the bass sound on kutz-travelling http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/se ... k=SJR20812 (couldnt find a youtube video) i managed to get sort of close using a sine wave thats distorted and got a sine shaper on it, but it sounds far too thin and when i try to beef it up its looses the sounds im after

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Re: Help Me Make That Sound - 2011.

Post by desbest » Wed May 18, 2011 1:01 pm

Rynsa Man is a grime producer from Birmingham, but some of his music is bordering, or is dubstep. Alongside Skream, Digital Mystiks, and Sukh Knight, he has many of the the best dutty dubstep bass sounds I've heard. I've nearly finished a song, and all it needs is a low gritty bass sound, and I can't really make a low growly sound so I need help.
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I'm working on a simplistic 8 bar grime instrumental track, and I need a low growly dutty bass to finish it off. Listening to it, the bass I'm looking for should replace the strings.
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^^ the track is available, i think the iframe is cached on my computer as i've just publicised it ^^

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