Any ideas on this pad?

[serox]

How would one go about this? I make a sustained two tone chord and save it. Then make a singe tone string, would that need to be one of the keys used to make the two tone chord?

Then once I have the correct string note, I guess I add that into a sample? then layer them?

Well you can just buss everything into one channel, put an edison in there, and record it. Then take that recording, put it in a sampler where you can modulate the loop points, then just loop a small section of the sample. When you build the sample, make sure there is some movement, so you'll hear slightly abrupt jumps at the loop point.

My workflow for a lot of stuff now looks like this: Jam out and record elements of a song, like a fairly traditional song. Mix them and give them the characteristics of an older recording. Then take those elements and start cutting them up and assembling them into a contemporary style song, ie filtered, effected, compressed, chopped, heavily modulated. It is like twice the work, but whatever, it takes you further towards sounding like yourself.

Think there was a young punx masterclass where they discussed this technique. Don't know if the music is your style, but it was pretty interesting the extent they'd go to create their sound.

but how do you play the two tones and the string at the same time using a controller for example? I seem to remember seeing a video of these guys doing it live and I wonder how that was possible...

[nowaysj]

There are any number of ways to do this. Come on bro!

One way is just to draw some notes in each element's piano roll, and record that.

If you want to play the chord for some reason, you can just record the midi notes for each element is successive passes.

Or if you want be fancy pantsy, create a layer channel, set all the elements as children, they'll all now play.

I recommend sending each element to their own mixer channel, where you can treat them seperately, then bring them all together in a buss.

I'd record them clean into an edison in the first fx slot of the buss (u still on flstudio?)

Then after that edison, I'd put some type of saturation/filtration device to simulate a tape recording.

Then some eq, compression, limiting, then another edison. I'd record the chords through that effect chain into the last edison.

Trim that bad boy, save it out for further usage, and then just drag that sample into a drum sampler (just the way I do it) so I can play the chord along with the other elements of my track on a pad interface, like the padkontrol.

[-[2]DAY_-]

You fruity loopers.....

this isn't a stumper, just resample! lay down whatever notes you want with whatever voices you want, mix and master the sound however you want (using the term "master" loosely, to mean whatever u put on master bus) and bounce em to audio. Import into sampler, set loop points, done.

MAster fx in this case to me sounds like extreme tape sim, or saturate/distort to imitate the effect of tape, roll off the lows, whatever else, but mainly saturate it/make it gritty.

[serox]

There are any number of ways to do this. Come on bro!

One way is just to draw some notes in each element's piano roll, and record that.

If you want to play the chord for some reason, you can just record the midi notes for each element is successive passes.

Or if you want be fancy pantsy, create a layer channel, set all the elements as children, they'll all now play.

I recommend sending each element to their own mixer channel, where you can treat them seperately, then bring them all together in a buss.

I'd record them clean into an edison in the first fx slot of the buss (u still on flstudio?)

Then after that edison, I'd put some type of saturation/filtration device to simulate a tape recording.

Then some eq, compression, limiting, then another edison. I'd record the chords through that effect chain into the last edison.

Trim that bad boy, save it out for further usage, and then just drag that sample into a drum sampler (just the way I do it) so I can play the chord along with the other elements of my track on a pad interface, like the padkontrol.

Yeh I get you. the bit I made bold is prob the way I would go about it I think. How do you set loop points in the FL sampler?

Not a bad sound tho eh?

Yeh still FL but I try other things now n then, all the same imo.

thanks everyone. things like this helps open the mind and give me ideas of how far you need to go to make something decent and original.

[nowaysj]

How do you set loop points in the FL sampler?

You can put the loop points in edison, in your final mixed sample. Select the area you want to loop and hit alt+L that will give you loop points. Now when you drag that into fl's sampler channel, just hit use loop points on the channel settings, and that section will loop. I don't think you can modulate the loop points in an fl sampler channel. Maybe you can, I don't do it. If I'm going to be doing something like that, I'm going to be in a more robust sampler like battery, directwave, kontakt.

Have to say that as I'm learning more as a producer, more and more elements are ending up in a sampler. I used to have midi tracks triggering vst synths and what not, like at the final stage of the song. No longer. Seems like everything goes to audio in the playlist, or audio into a sampler. Just the way I'm doing it now.

[-[2]DAY_-]

+1 for resampling nearly everything
Most of my stuff is in a sampler too by the time i'm mixing down my track
And i always print my midi drums to audio

I've actually made a good number of hip hop tracks via the whole "build/write a tune, mix it down, and sample it for a new beat" route.

[press]

this isnt what your looking for im sure, but if i really wanted to recreate that pad i would just nick that free bit in the front timstretch or mess with looping in a sampler and boom id have it. but im feeling more and more in the minority with my love of sampling.



edit: upon listening again i see that there is a higher freq that comes in later on that pad but still could end up sounding close at least.

[nowaysj]

Naw, go for it. If you like that sound, there it is!

For myself, I like sampling, I just happen to sample myself sometimes.

[serox]

for me it was not about making that sound to use. I wanted to know what was going on for ideas. I will give it a go of course but it will just end up like my own I guess

thnx again.

Nowaysj: I will give these loop points thing a go!