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Oh shit, what happened

Post by zawmbee » Sat May 21, 2011 11:36 pm

I've just started to realize, from strenuous listening, that dubstep is beginning to just be synths. I know, I'm a bit late. I find it hard to even hear drums in common dubstep tracks nowadays, bar the occasional snare sound. So, where do I go from here? D:

Actually, I have a question: can any sound be made with synthesizers? By this, I mean typical basslines I can muster up with my mouth, haha. I'll go do some revision after exams.

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Post by paravrais » Sun May 22, 2011 12:06 am

Sorry what?

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Post by ChadDub » Sun May 22, 2011 12:49 am

What?

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Re: Oh shit, what happened

Post by jrisreal » Sun May 22, 2011 12:52 am

yes, you can make ANY sound with a synthesizer and the proper processing. Not saying its an easy task, though
...in my opinion
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Post by ComfiStile » Sun May 22, 2011 12:53 am

jrisreal wrote:yes, you can make ANY sound with a synthesizer and the proper processing. Not saying its an easy task, though

Like the sound of a plane crashing or something?
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Post by jrisreal » Sun May 22, 2011 12:56 am

ComfiStile wrote:
jrisreal wrote:yes, you can make ANY sound with a synthesizer and the proper processing. Not saying its an easy task, though

Like the sound of a plane crashing or something?
yes but would probably be very difficult with modulation on a bunch of params and LOTS of processing
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Wow. I feel sorry for you.

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Alright what happend... is everything cool
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I think this thread is dildos.....
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RandoRando wrote:I think this thread is dildos.....
Isn't RandoRando spanish for dildoes to the face? It might be vibrators, sorry if I'm wrong. :)
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Siderealdb wrote:
RandoRando wrote:I think this thread is dildos.....
Isn't RandoRando spanish for dildoes to the face? It might be vibrators, sorry if I'm wrong. :)
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Post by Ldizzy » Sun May 22, 2011 9:03 am

please lock.

thread is obvious trolling.
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It's completely genuine. Just look at his other posts.

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Post by Ldizzy » Sun May 22, 2011 9:48 am

no time for that.
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Post by Ldizzy » Sun May 22, 2011 9:48 am

Ldizzy wrote:no time for that.
i will trust you tho

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Post by Turnipish_Thoughts » Sun May 22, 2011 11:40 am

jrisreal wrote:yes, you can make ANY sound with a synthesizer and the proper processing. Not saying its an easy task, though
missleading. All though its technically true, the utter joke of trying to accurately replicate a sound with very complex overtones would far outweigh the fuck about of getting a foley recording of the same thing in a recording studio.

Plus you're very often bound by the number of oscillators (and other params) on a synth and some sounds may just be too thick to reproduce effectively in respect to the hard/software at your disposal.

Question: "I'm looking to make a Jam sandwich; I've got some jam, a tube of toothpaste, a couple of bananas, a spanner, a half empty bottle of mosquito repellent and a pot of Greek yoghurt. can someone help me out tryna figure out how to squash it all into being a Jam sandwich?"

The point is, if there's a really simple way of doing something, or a really hard way of doing something, do it the simple way. The hard way might make you feel clever and make it seem like the sound is really complicated, but in reality all you've done is synthesize a symbol, why didn't you just record a fucking symbol?

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Post by Filthzilla » Sun May 22, 2011 12:16 pm

Turnipish Thoughts wrote:
jrisreal wrote:yes, you can make ANY sound with a synthesizer and the proper processing. Not saying its an easy task, though
missleading. All though its technically true, the utter joke of trying to accurately replicate a sound with very complex overtones would far outweigh the fuck about of getting a foley recording of the same thing in a recording studio.
What he's trying to say is...

That it would be easier to get a plane, crash it and record that rather than make it using a synth. :corndance: :corndance:

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Post by Turnipish_Thoughts » Sun May 22, 2011 12:32 pm

Filthzilla wrote:
Turnipish Thoughts wrote:
jrisreal wrote:yes, you can make ANY sound with a synthesizer and the proper processing. Not saying its an easy task, though
missleading. All though its technically true, the utter joke of trying to accurately replicate a sound with very complex overtones would far outweigh the fuck about of getting a foley recording of the same thing in a recording studio.
What he's trying to say is...

That it would be easier to get a plane, crash it and record that rather than make it using a synth. :corndance: :corndance:
absolutely! :6:

But seriously though, it sometimes is much easier to find a few samples or record something than try and make the sound in a synth, ye you might get it sounding alright, but a synthesized snare/hat e.t.c will never sound as crisp as a sample/recording.
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Post by Basic A » Sun May 22, 2011 2:56 pm

Turnipish Thoughts wrote:
jrisreal wrote:yes, you can make ANY sound with a synthesizer and the proper processing. Not saying its an easy task, though
missleading. All though its technically true, the utter joke of trying to accurately replicate a sound with very complex overtones would far outweigh the fuck about of getting a foley recording of the same thing in a recording studio.

Plus you're very often bound by the number of oscillators (and other params) on a synth and some sounds may just be too thick to reproduce effectively in respect to the hard/software at your disposal.

Question: "I'm looking to make a Jam sandwich; I've got some jam, a tube of toothpaste, a couple of bananas, a spanner, a half empty bottle of mosquito repellent and a pot of Greek yoghurt. can someone help me out tryna figure out how to squash it all into being a Jam sandwich?"

The point is, if there's a really simple way of doing something, or a really hard way of doing something, do it the simple way. The hard way might make you feel clever and make it seem like the sound is really complicated, but in reality all you've done is synthesize a symbol, why didn't you just record a fucking symbol?

:z:

I've learned this the hard way...
I disagree with everything youve said here, because your making synthesis sound hard... while using the example of a cymbal... A cymbal would be some enveloped white noise. Alot easier and cheaper to synthesize a cymbal then find a drumset, decent mic, acoustically treated room, ect.

And there would be nothing easy about micing up a plane crash, do you really think you can even get a mic close enough to such carnage, wheres you could just as easily layer up a bunch of noises you synth?

Osc count isnt a limitation, additive theory says there is no wavecyclethat cant be made using three basic oscillators in the traditional raw waveshapes. From there, its just your job to get all those cycles into a chain that forms the sound you want.

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