Changing to "original" dubstep...

[benjam]

Im not being funny here but who gives a fuck?
There is much worse shit happening around the world to be arsed about a 14 year old gettin high.

[Ayatollah]

Im not being funny here but who gives a fuck?
There is much worse shit happening around the world to be arsed about a 14 year old gettin high.

yes because we're all robots and can only worry/disagree with one thing at a time

[FluidMoShun]

Don't use semantics to try to distort what I said. I'm not telling a 'child' to do drugs.. I'm telling a 14 year old that chemicals like thc add an interesting element to your thought process when producing. And I told him to stay away from all other drugs, including legal ones, like ADD medicine, which is for all intents and purposes, kiddie-meth.

uhh no you actually told a 14 year old "Best advice I can think to give: Do drugs and push your mind to its limits" so don't accuse me of distorting what you said cos I didn't. Not even getting into those other retarded blanket statements you made there.

(ADD medicine don't go "up your nose" btw.)

You said I told a child to do drugs, a 14 year old is not a child. How is pushing your mind to its limits not good advice? Anyways, if you could tell from the way I phrased shit in rhymes, the "retarded blanket statements" were mostly tongue in cheek jokes... I don't know how long ago you were in highschool, but I knew a hell of a lot of people that blew add meds... And you don't have to blow them to have them mess you up mentally for the rest of your life.

look who's using semantics now. Is a 14 year old an adult then? As for "retarded blanket statements" I was mostly referring to "hallucinogenic drugs are good". Nearly all drugs can be good or bad depending on the context and setting, and no drug is for everyone.
"Pushing your mind to its limits" is such a vague sentence that it can mean almost anything, and no, in the context of drug use, and on top of it all when talking to children, it's not good advice. When you offer it as "production advice" on top of it all it just becomes ludicrous.

a 14 year old is a teenager/young man. I thought it was implied that I meant using them in a good setting.. Obviously I wasn't telling him to drop acid and then go get lost in some Lousiana backwoods and get raped by inbred deliverance looking mother fuckers. All i was saying was try pot, and gauge for yourself if hallucinogens are for you. They can be the key to unlocking profound truths that your mind would not otherwise reveal to you. The same can't be said about amphetamines, opioids or any other drug classes.

And pushing limits past the existence of limits is what I've used as my mindset of production (And while I still have a long way to go to be as good as a lot of the folks on here, I'm very happy with my progress so far). Instead of spending all your time trying to figuring out how burial and digital mystiks or skrillex and datsik make their sounds.. spend some time alone with some synths and see if you can discover your own sound, cause everyone has theirs, and its as limitless as anyone elses. It all depends on how far they pursue it.

[psychedelicatessen]

How many creative people had their lives and careers ruined by psychedelics and pot?

Syd Barret? Even though he frequently did massive doses of LSD, psychedelics ruined his life, career and relationships with others.
I won't go more in depth on him, but drugs can hinder more than anything, after a point.

I recently discovered some tunes I'd attempted to make while I was smoking pot and doing shrooms and I lol'd. (I've been clean for a few months on account of job searching)
Tunes I'd made when smoking pot had one or two elements that had any detail to them and stood out because they were louder, but everything else lacked any detail, and it was just a few patterns looped together.
A tune I'd attempted to make while on shrooms was an eight measure bassline that consisted of really loud high harmonics. Explained my bad trip
I did not finish a single track, or come up with anything interesting worth saving.

I'm not saying the results will always be the same, or that drugs are bad, I'm just saying that to my experience, they didn't help me to be any more creative than when I wasn't on anything. And working on anything while stoned was counter-productive, as I wasn't paying attention to the whole picture, because I was enjoying being stoned too much, and would just be content to listen to a loop drone on and on and on... because I "couldn't get over the sound of that snare" even though it's just because I slapped some reverb on it. What's helping me be creative is going on hikes, photography, socializing... hell, just getting out of the house and doing something besides staying in and smoking or hanging out with people because we don't know what to do other than smoke a bowl and try to find a ride to go longboarding.
/rant
I need a job.

[FluidMoShun]

How many creative people had their lives and careers ruined by psychedelics and pot?

Syd Barret? Even though he frequently did massive doses of LSD, psychedelics ruined his life, career and relationships with others.
I won't go more in depth on him, but drugs can hinder more than anything, after a point.

I recently discovered some tunes I'd attempted to make while I was smoking pot and doing shrooms and I lol'd. (I've been clean for a few months on account of job searching)
Tunes I'd made when smoking pot had one or two elements that had any detail to them and stood out because they were louder, but everything else lacked any detail, and it was just a few patterns looped together.
A tune I'd attempted to make while on shrooms was an eight measure bassline that consisted of really loud high harmonics. Explained my bad trip
I did not finish a single track, or come up with anything interesting worth saving.

I'm not saying the results will always be the same, or that drugs are bad, I'm just saying that to my experience, they didn't help me to be any more creative than when I wasn't on anything. And working on anything while stoned was counter-productive, as I wasn't paying attention to the whole picture, because I was enjoying being stoned too much, and would just be content to listen to a loop drone on and on and on... because I "couldn't get over the sound of that snare" even though it's just because I slapped some reverb on it. What's helping me be creative is going on hikes, photography, socializing... hell, just getting out of the house and doing something besides staying in and smoking or hanging out with people because we don't know what to do other than smoke a bowl and try to find a ride to go longboarding.
/rant
I need a job.

True, but moderation's definitely key, as with all things. Also, Syd Barrett was pretty damn insane to start with, which you can pretty much tell from all of his music. The excessive tripping probably sped up his slip into insanity, but it was inevitable whether he took drugs or not.

Music production probably isn't the best form of free expression while tripping. But when I have trip-jam sessions with my friends, they're always amazing. I think thats more of what I mean when I talk about making musical headway you would not otherwise make. Part of it is a change in the way you groove with other musicians while you're tripping, knowing your friends are tripping just as hard as you. And for me personally, I can break down my muscle memory before I play something and rearrange ideas in ways I would not normally. That's not to say I'm not creative while sober, but its a nice shift in the way I think. I know what you mean, tho.. Producing does not feel natural while tripping.. But playing guitar while tripping flows very naturally, which in the long run plays out into your overall musicianship, including production.

[hxczach]

I don't smoke drugs, I smoke fools like you on the B-Ball court.

[Basic A]

Wtf else is a 14 yr old gonna do with their time?

[Ayatollah]

Wtf else is a 14 yr old gonna do with their time?

I dunno, develop their production skills maybe? Study a bit, do some sports perhaps?

[Basic A]

Wtf else is a 14 yr old gonna do with their time?

I dunno, develop their production skills maybe? Study a bit, do some sports perhaps?

I do not condone drug use amongst any of my listeners or the members of DSF. Just trollin ya'll because your arguing for 5 pages
Meh. Basketball vs. little squiggly crawly buggy fractal patterns.

[zerbaman]

Thanks A LOT wub and and to everybody else that helped me, of course. I was looking into EZ Drummer, to see if thats any good, too. Also, about the bud I control it and am responsible with it (what everyone says, right?) but I do have over 95's in almost all of my classes (except gym, 'cause my teachers a guy and is a little creepy ). So don't worry about that, I'm not doing it to be cool, I'm doing it because it opens up your mind and makes almost everything better. If I started slipping because of the bud, I would quit right away until my life got back in shape. Again, thanks everybody and I know my track isn't that good (although, I do like the drums), it was kind of rushed.

This.
Funnily enough, since I started, my grades in school for everything but PE went up. And my behavior improved as well tbh.

BTW, it seems that I may have flamed a bit, It wasn't intentional at all.

My rule is, no more than once a week. Never do it alone either, only as a social thing. Only suggested it because since I really got on it, I've made a lot of deeper stuff. Not to say it's the cause. Just a personal observation tbh.

[-[2]DAY_-]

lol i only smoke alone. my friends who smoke are fiendish about it, and are loser slackers who slow me down, piss me off and get in my way.
/rant

[hifi]

I'm kind of a newcomer to this website, but this is the place I think I would get the most help. Well, I've been listening to dubstep for about a year and only started producing like two months ago. I only knew of producers such as Flux Pavilion, Cookie Monsta, Skrillex because those are just the mainstream "brostep"(don't really like the term) artists. I'm also from the US and only 14 and teh FILTHZ WUBSWOOBSEEE scene is really the only popular dubstep scene there is here *sigh*. But, I signed up for this website and usually scoured the SNH every day or two. That's where I heard about artists such as MRK1, Kromestar, Digital Mystikz, Kode9, Burial, etc. Now don't get me wrong I still listen to some Flux Pavilion and whatnot, but that's usually when I'm stoned, because that stuff BLOWS YOUR MIND. Now to the real point, I've been producing "brostep", but I want to switch over and start producing deep and bassy tunes. I'm just asking for some advice since if I google "dubstep tutorial" the majority would be teaching me how to make teh WUBSWOOBSEEE's. Also, I know you guys/girls are nice people and probably have some good advice to give, although whether you want to give out that information is completely up to you. Finally, I wonder if any of you guys made the switch from "brostep" to dubstep. I use FL Studio BTW, but I also have Cubase 5. One specific topic that I've been wondering about also is where to get the drums because I'm using VEC1, 2 and 3 and it just isn't really cutting it. Digital Mystikz's drums sound kind of real, so is that the case?

tl;dr: 14 year old switching from producing "brostep" to dubstep. Needs some advice.

Soundcloud

New track which will probably be the last of its kind.

14 and you are smoking? ahahahahahahaah leave that to the grown ups man, your mind is still way under development you are just hurting yourself. I'm not trying to sound offensive here since I am young as well but I don't recommend smoking until you at least hit puberty, and can apply for a job.

[hifi]

Wtf else is a 14 yr old gonna do with their time?

sports, bitches, a job, and everything else I didn't do when I was your age except play video games

[Korupt]

Sorry for not posting here in a while. First of all, stop arguing about the drugs. I smoke weed and would do some psychedelics (LSD, Mushrooms, and DMT are the ones I had in mind) if I had the chance. Now stop bickering about the effects drugs have upon the world and the people who live in it (not supposed to sound offensive). I have started a song and I would like to hear some feedback on it. It's not nearly finished, but I want to see what you guys think of it. I had some trouble on EQing and getting the different parts on certain frequencies. For example, getting my 808 kick to, say 60Hz.

Soundcloud

lol i only smoke alone. my friends who smoke are fiendish about it, and are loser slackers who slow me down, piss me off and get in my way.
/rant

This.

I only really enjoy smoking with one friend, 'cause he's not a dick about it and he's not a fiend.

[hxczach]

Feedback-

Pros- Sub bass

Cons- Too many drugs in ya track.

[tavravlavish]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO ONE CARES HOW OLD YOU ARE!!

I'm so sick of hearing people announce that they're 16 as if they deserve some kind of prize for being young and trying to make music.

[Korupt]

Feedback-

Pros- Sub bass

Cons- Too many drugs in ya track.

Lol thanks.

[Korupt]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO ONE CARES HOW OLD YOU ARE!!

I'm so sick of hearing people announce that they're 16 as if they deserve some kind of prize for being young and trying to make music.

First of all, calm down a little bit. Second of all, I wasnt bragging about being 14 and making music, I was just telling you guys that so you could understand my situation a little better. Finally, your post is pretty useless and has no real significance to what I want to know and learn, so if you're going to hate, at least answer my question.

[deadly_habit]

heh here round 05 06 would have been killer, just go with the less is more approach and focus more on content rather than engineering and then combine with the emphasis on engineering about now re mixdowns etc and you'll be good
loads of roots stuff about sample wise that have been cained for years
listen to some old juju/narcohz stuff
that's what i originally drew my influence from and started to style into my own and was the first time i made dubstep

this and vex'd degenerate orig got me from being a typical dnb hater of dubstep into the scene

first i ever did dubstep wise
2nd was reese workout heh

[hxczach]

Noticed you're from Rochester deadly.
Small world.