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Umm... Netherlands? Can you reason this out for me?

Post by knell » Sat May 28, 2011 6:29 pm

yay, yahoo news

...so, can someone explain to me why this isn't a really bad idea? just seems like the dutch are adding crime to their list of tourist attractions now. are the shops that terrible at the current moment?

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Post by hendramarshall » Sat May 28, 2011 6:48 pm

it is a really bad idea... the soft drugs trade WILL just end up going under ground like in every other country on earth. this will just create more problems. sad, sad news.
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Post by LACE » Sat May 28, 2011 7:35 pm

Whaat???

One of my worst nightmares realized..glad I had those experiences now..don't see myself going back to Amsterdam due to this. And yeah, I only went to blaze out. How disappointing.

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Post by wubstep » Sat May 28, 2011 7:39 pm

Amsterdam is fucked, practically no locals go to any of the coffeeshops any where near the centre.
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Post by firky » Sat May 28, 2011 7:41 pm

If anything it's a good thing for the Dutch people who have to put up with the hoards of drug and sex tourists. I've been one of those tourists a few times myself and always cringed and what it must be like to live amongst people who go to Amsterdam to get fucked with out any respect to the place, people or themselves.

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Post by firky » Sat May 28, 2011 7:43 pm

Besides which, fuck that over night ferry. I'd rather stay in my own hazy bubble at home, in my own bed and save the money. :D

Changes nothing for me - I'll still be popping over for a weekend this year and see a couple of mates, but it's not a drugs mecca or anything for me, because quite frankly; am not a shallow fuck.
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Post by wubstep » Sat May 28, 2011 7:47 pm

Just remembered I've got a bro who lives there anyway, worst case he can buy my herb and bun elsewhere I guess.
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Post by bagelator » Sat May 28, 2011 7:52 pm

firky wrote:Besides which, fuck that over night ferry. I'd rather stay in my own hazy bubble at home, in my own bed and save the money. :D

Changes nothing for me - I'll still be popping over for a weekend this year and see a couple of mates, but it's not a drugs mecca or anything for me, because quite frankly; am not a shallow fuck.
It bears the brunt for the rest of Europe's deeply unprogressive views about drugs and as a result this was bound to happen, unless the surrounding countries had followed suit and thereby taken the pressure off the Netherlands, itself a small nation.

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Post by borrowed » Sat May 28, 2011 8:03 pm

firky wrote:Besides which, fuck that over night ferry. I'd rather stay in my own hazy bubble at home, in my own bed and save the money. :D

Changes nothing for me - I'll still be popping over for a weekend this year and see a couple of mates, but it's not a drugs mecca or anything for me, because quite frankly; am not a shallow fuck.
Instead of a shallow fuck, you're an egotistical fuck. Good job.

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Post by knell » Sat May 28, 2011 8:38 pm

:lol:

and a good thing for amsterdam? yeah i suppose cartels will be happy

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Post by wubstep » Sat May 28, 2011 8:45 pm

And all the residents and street dealers who will just relay on all the unending demand.
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Post by knell » Sat May 28, 2011 9:03 pm

yeah i think they should have just shut them down entirely if they wanted them to stop... you know the 1,500 "members" of the coffee shops are gonna find the tourists and charge them double to walk in and buy for them...

basically set up their own subculture of crime

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Post by test_recordings » Sat May 28, 2011 9:04 pm

Fuck it, lets just go to Portugal instead then! Their decriminilisation scheme has actually worked by reducing both drug use and negative effects of drugs on society... no wonder the UK papers never mention it :?
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Post by cityzen » Sat May 28, 2011 9:15 pm

knell wrote:yeah i think they should have just shut them down entirely if they wanted them to stop... you know the 1,500 "members" of the coffee shops are gonna find the tourists and charge them double to walk in and buy for them...

basically set up their own subculture of crime
But one can get just as nice cro from here without having to take a shitty easyjet flight.
I just wonder what all the owners of the crackdenesk hotels are gonna do...
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Post by knell » Sat May 28, 2011 9:41 pm

yeah i meant the tourists that go to amdam to see how beautiful the city is and want chron... wonder how big the drug tourism monetary benefit really is, considering it affects hotels, eateries etc.

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Post by icanicant » Sun May 29, 2011 12:07 am

test recordings wrote:Fuck it, lets just go to Portugal instead then! Their decriminilisation scheme has actually worked by reducing both drug use and negative effects of drugs on society... no wonder the UK papers never mention it :?
it has done this in the netherlands too though! Think it is the tourism part they dont like tbh.
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Post by bagelator » Sun May 29, 2011 7:43 am

icanicant wrote:
test recordings wrote:Fuck it, lets just go to Portugal instead then! Their decriminilisation scheme has actually worked by reducing both drug use and negative effects of drugs on society... no wonder the UK papers never mention it :?
it has done this in the netherlands too though! Think it is the tourism part they dont like tbh.
not really the same in portugal as they did this to end a really nasty era of heroin consumption.

here in lisbon now you can have ten doses worth of product on you , although this is obviously a debatable subject which comes down to the judge´s interpretation.

the police are truly inept/lazy/nonchalant so interpret that as you will.

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Post by firky » Sun May 29, 2011 8:00 am

bagelator wrote: It bears the brunt for the rest of Europe's deeply unprogressive views about drugs and as a result this was bound to happen, unless the surrounding countries had followed suit and thereby taken the pressure off the Netherlands, itself a small nation.
Exactly. I mean you have to look at this from their point of view, us Brits are quite notorious for being cuntish toursits. If we so much as see a French man near a plastic patio chair; well we just have to get drunk and deck the fucking surrender monkey with it. :?

Seriously though - imagine living in a little city that is swamped by tens of thousands of idiots. Not everyone who goes there is an idiot, granted, but if you've been there... man, we don't even bother to try and speak a bit of Dutch, ffs. How arrogant is that?

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firky wrote:Besides which, fuck that over night ferry. I'd rather stay in my own hazy bubble at home, in my own bed and save the money. :D

Changes nothing for me - I'll still be popping over for a weekend this year and see a couple of mates, but it's not a drugs mecca or anything for me, because quite frankly; am not a shallow fuck.
Instead of a shallow fuck, you're an egotistical fuck. Good job.
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Post by nowaysj » Sun May 29, 2011 8:03 am

Was hoping that Cali would benefit from weed tourism. Suppose the firkys of the world are the downside though... :lol:
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Post by firky » Sun May 29, 2011 8:15 am

:lol:

Nowt wrong with people going on holiday to smoke a bit bud, have a drink and a good time etc. It's when they start to have a negative effect on the people who live there and are a drain on the authorities it becomes a problem. You see the casualties in the Dam, people getting tanked up on strong European beer and then having a smoke, puking all over the street or just wondering in front of trams and bicycles.

Dunno what the fuss is about Dam myself, you can get weed just as nice here (albeit illicitly) and you don't have to go across the North Sea on a shitty ferry to get it :D
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