How to make Coki style wobbles? (like in horrid henry)

paravrais · Post by **paravrais** » Sat May 28, 2011 5:52 pm

If anyone has a failsafe way of isolating one instance of a waveform from a continuously held note then I can sample them for everyone. I can upload some short samples of them anyway but it's not as good without the isolated waveforms :\

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Sat May 28, 2011 7:14 pm

paravrais wrote:If anyone has a failsafe way of isolating one instance of a waveform from a continuously held note then I can sample them for everyone. I can upload some short samples of them anyway but it's not as good without the isolated waveforms :\

shouldnt be difficult if its a constant sound. what I mean by that is the sound doesnt change over time. Ill add you on AIM and you can send the sounds if you want and I'll get the waveforms for you

paravrais · Post by **paravrais** » Sat May 28, 2011 9:20 pm

jrisreal wrote:
paravrais wrote:If anyone has a failsafe way of isolating one instance of a waveform from a continuously held note then I can sample them for everyone. I can upload some short samples of them anyway but it's not as good without the isolated waveforms :\
shouldnt be difficult if its a constant sound. what I mean by that is the sound doesnt change over time. Ill add you on AIM and you can send the sounds if you want and I'll get the waveforms for you

I fear it may be harder than you think...I don't reckon it's possible to do it by hand, at least not in any audio editors that I have. You'd need some sort of program designed for isolating the start/end points of individual waveform cycles.

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Sat May 28, 2011 9:21 pm

paravrais wrote:
jrisreal wrote:
paravrais wrote:If anyone has a failsafe way of isolating one instance of a waveform from a continuously held note then I can sample them for everyone. I can upload some short samples of them anyway but it's not as good without the isolated waveforms :\
shouldnt be difficult if its a constant sound. what I mean by that is the sound doesnt change over time. Ill add you on AIM and you can send the sounds if you want and I'll get the waveforms for you
I fear it may be harder than you think...I don't reckon it's possible to do it by hand, at least not in any audio editors that I have. You'd need some sort of program designed for isolating the start/end points of individual waveform cycles.

lol ok i still wana try

Basic A · Post by **Basic A** » Sat May 28, 2011 11:00 pm

paravrais wrote:
Trainrek wrote:
jaydot wrote:I've always wondered how to get bass sounds that sound like they've been resampled but obviously havent. I may be a synthesis noob but I can't get the simple "warp" style bass but can get some good yoi sounds. :/
Derp?

If they sound like they've been heavily resampled then they probably have - you can't do everything inside massive you know, you can get the rough sound and then dirty it up with layers of distortion/chorus/eq/more distortion etc etc
Not necessarily. I reckon at least as many producers don't resample as do. Kes-Es is a great example of how you can get ridiculously phat sounds straight out of the synth.

Also, onelove that link is awesome. EDIT: No it isn't, they only give you mp3s

people put way to much emphasis on resampling and adding distortion and all that...

Cab get alot dirtier sounds just using a synth then you can taking a decent patch and adding a million and one plugins to it, the resampling thing tends to lead to blindly slapping stuff around with no real goal as to what you want to achieve, imo. Best advice I was ever given was to just do it all in synth.

Coki, dont believe he reamples, most of his tunes just sound like one or two decent patches alternating between each other.

jrisreal · Post by **jrisreal** » Sat May 28, 2011 11:17 pm

Basic A wrote:
paravrais wrote:
Trainrek wrote:
jaydot wrote:I've always wondered how to get bass sounds that sound like they've been resampled but obviously havent. I may be a synthesis noob but I can't get the simple "warp" style bass but can get some good yoi sounds. :/
Derp?

If they sound like they've been heavily resampled then they probably have - you can't do everything inside massive you know, you can get the rough sound and then dirty it up with layers of distortion/chorus/eq/more distortion etc etc
Not necessarily. I reckon at least as many producers don't resample as do. Kes-Es is a great example of how you can get ridiculously phat sounds straight out of the synth.

Also, onelove that link is awesome. EDIT: No it isn't, they only give you mp3s
people put way to much emphasis on resampling and adding distortion and all that...

Cab get alot dirtier sounds just using a synth then you can taking a decent patch and adding a million and one plugins to it, the resampling thing tends to lead to blindly slapping stuff around with no real goal as to what you want to achieve, imo. Best advice I was ever given was to just do it all in synth.

Coki, dont believe he reamples, most of his tunes just sound like one or two decent patches alternating between each other.

This. Only time I resample is when it is absolutely necessary to get the sound I want. Hardly use distortions anymore either.

paravrais · Post by **paravrais** » Sat May 28, 2011 11:36 pm

I use distortion all the time and I don't even make aggro music XD It's good for giving things definition.

SeraphUK · Post by **SeraphUK** » Sun May 29, 2011 6:41 pm

Like this kind of thing?

http://soundcloud.com/seraphuk/seraph-dread

.onelove. · Post by **.onelove.** » Sun May 29, 2011 7:50 pm

SeraphUK wrote:Like this kind of thing?

http://soundcloud.com/seraphuk/seraph-dread

CHRISSSTT

i was expecting a bog-standard filth producer capitalising on the thread, but jesus, that's the best replication of a Coki riddim I've listened to. Favourited!

Now spill your production secrets

Dub_freak · Post by **Dub_freak** » Sun May 29, 2011 9:44 pm

This thread is relevant to my interests

SeraphUK · Post by **SeraphUK** » Sun May 29, 2011 9:45 pm

.onelove. wrote:
SeraphUK wrote:Like this kind of thing?

http://soundcloud.com/seraphuk/seraph-dread
CHRISSSTT

i was expecting a bog-standard filth producer capitalising on the thread, but jesus, that's the best replication of a Coki riddim I've listened to. Favourited!

Now spill your production secrets

Basically, it's a Reason vibe. You open like 3/4 Subtractors within a combinator. Have only the first oscillator turned on for each. Then you put in a nice clean sine wave for your sub and low pass it. High pass some metallic waveforms over the top. Then what I did for that track was audio merge all the subtractors together, then wired it through a Malstrom and added some comb filtering. Then it's just about stereo imaging, reverb and EQ. Also try to get quite in depth with like cv modulation and using certain parts of one synth to trigger parts of another. That's the Coki way. I very much doubt he resamples much, if anything. The guy's taken alot of time to learn Reason, hence why his tunes stand out in the scene. His LFO automation and wiring skills are on another level. I'm still learning, but getting there slowly. Hope this helps..

SeraphUK · Post by **SeraphUK** » Sun May 29, 2011 9:53 pm

Oh yeh, I forgot to mention, phasers play quite an important part aswell. Like syncing the rate of the phaser to move in time with your LFO rate. I read somewhere about the bassline in Spongebob being a sample of spongebobs laugh with loads of distortion and effects on it. That's complete rubbish.. It's all in the layering. Layering metallic waveforms and white noise through phasers with alot of intricate and precise automation. Just try and think outside the box a bit.

SeraphUK · Post by **SeraphUK** » Sun May 29, 2011 10:13 pm

http://soundcloud.com/seraphuk/seraph-gnasher Here's another one that's on a similar vibe.

http://soundcloud.com/seraphuk/seraphwonky This one I made a long time ago, so the mixdown isn't as good, but the drop at 1:40 is again pretty Coki-ish.

Spend the time to learn Reason. That's the only advice I can really give to anyone trying to achieve this kind of sound. You can pretty much make this kind of stuff with any softsynth I think. It's just knowing synthesis.

I also forgot to say that portamento and pitch bending also play an important part.

dopocc · Post by **dopocc** » Mon May 30, 2011 8:23 am

freakah wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31ws6_Rnu90

This is why I need to rewire reason again

RandoRando · Post by **RandoRando** » Mon May 30, 2011 8:44 am

seraph i just followed you on SC, some sick tunes you got goin on man. makes me want to buy reason more and more

Ldizzy · Post by **Ldizzy** » Mon May 30, 2011 5:09 pm

ive been obsessed with coki's synthesis ever since i started listening to dmz...

goblin is the ultimate hard dubstep bass to me... shits on anything anyone else has ever put... but thats an opinion... dont trust me? play it at 2:31 am in a club.

one of my very first threads was about coki bass :

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 60&start=0

we've laid out some concepts in it

so sad it died

zerbaman · Post by **zerbaman** » Mon May 30, 2011 5:36 pm

Freakah's cat avatar was bobbing it's head in time with the tune

RmoniK · Post by **RmoniK** » Tue May 31, 2011 5:09 pm

This. How?

Ldizzy · Post by **Ldizzy** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:56 am

anyone paid attention to my post??? was it irrelevant? its a serious question!

Coki is a genius.

ArrenMog · Post by **ArrenMog** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:24 am

SeraphUK wrote:http://soundcloud.com/seraphuk/seraph-gnasher Here's another one that's on a similar vibe.

http://soundcloud.com/seraphuk/seraphwonky This one I made a long time ago, so the mixdown isn't as good, but the drop at 1:40 is again pretty Coki-ish.

Spend the time to learn Reason. That's the only advice I can really give to anyone trying to achieve this kind of sound. You can pretty much make this kind of stuff with any softsynth I think. It's just knowing synthesis.

I also forgot to say that portamento and pitch bending also play an important part.

Cheers for all this advice, i really like your stuff as well, is well coki-ish i like it alot man

now just to try and put it into pratice

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