Oh no, another brostep thread....

[jsaxton]

whats wrong with thinking its all just music and not caring? if it sounds good it sounds good. that's the awesome thing with music, no two people will like the exact same stuff in the exact same way (its 3am so if that made no sense i apologize and disregard it)

[Blerim]

i swear vinyl still sells ? don't bare tunes get repressed and still sell out ?

im kinda young still (early 20s) and i just started buying vinyl, I think there's plenty more man with the same mindset; as long as good deep tunes get pressed there will always be the underground demand for that kinda music

the wobble and crazy noise madness will die down when a next genre takes over in ridiculousness, only a matter of time

[Undrig]

The star (that is brostep) is rising very high atm. What goes up must come down. It's like metal that dubs itself "extreme metal". Once you've cranked the knob to 11, how much further can you go when the epitome method of expression is to simply push that knob till it falls off? Kids don't get this because they're kids. Alot of producers who participate (and pay their light bill as a result) are aware but don't care because they're playing sold out shows constantly.

From the audience perspective it goes two different ways. Someone who gets into it will either sponge it all up and gravitate toward another genre of aimless throw-away music, or they will dig deeper and find there's more under the surface than simple surface noise lowest common denominator fodder.

From the dj/producer perspective they will ride the cash cow until the star begins to fall, and eventually jump on the train of the next hot thing of the moment. Very rarely will somebody in this position take a step back, realize the audience is compromised of people who will swallow the first load anybody blows in their face and rethink their strategy. Producers who have stuck to some idiosyncratic form of expression will plow onward to forge something new that music journalists can classify later.

The perversion and exploitation of genres of music has been going on for ages now. Even with genres that share similarities with Dubstep with respect toward a genre of music starting more as a revolt/reaction toward current trends. Rock music and Punk eventually (through the same process) became the epitome of what they were trying to get away from during the moment of inception.

On the other hand I see alot of things happening in dubstep that remind me of dnb. Where the big dogs of that particular scene do more to hold back new talent than help cultivate it. This is a death wish for any style of music and it risks dubstep being stuck in the same holding pattern that dnb is only now starting to come back out of. Where the tools have evolved but the ideas have not.

Overall it's just music. What someone else likes shouldn't bother you too much. While seeing the entire cast of Jersey Shore run to the dance floor like flies on shit the moment they hear a tune that sounds like a poltergeist infested tool shed makes me feel old and doesn't help improve my views on society as a whole, let em have their cake. My goal when I get up there is to make them move their asses and show them it can be accomplished without playing music that sounds like blunt smoking chillness nor transformer chainsaw sodomy.

[_TraX_]

People have to realize that music never stays the same, it's constantly evolving, and it's a natural process to any genre, especially such a broad one like dubstep. Fanatical dubheads on this forum have now made it 'cool' to talk smack about these brostep producers, smartass comments and sarcastic remarks doesn't make you smarter or sound more intelligent.
But I think if you're a true lover of a certain genre or type of sound, you'll accept the fact that it's not gonna stay the same forever, and you'll respect what it becomes, whether it's your cup of tea or not. Stick to the DMZ and Hyperdub releases, if that's your style, if kids wanna call brostep dubstep without learning the true roots, pray that they will open their eyes.

[InternetSlaveMaster]

The two main points I wanna make have already been stated, but I will try an expand a little bit more on them.

I realized one of the main reasons "brostep" is so big is because it sounds better on crappy earbuds than the subby dubstep. Not everyone has a nice sound system to play their music over, so obviously if you cannot even hear the bass on your system (which probably consists of iPod headphones or what-have-you), which is the main point of a dubstep song, than it is obvious people won't like it. (I remember trying to show my girlfriend Midnight Request Line on her laptop speakers, there was no bass whatsoever.)

From experience, I started listening to dubstep via Bassnectar. I then moved on to all the other "brostep" stuff, with some subby-stuff. However, once I decided to go out to my garage and play through my dad's sound system (I'm 17), I just thought the "brostep" was annoying as hell. (But at the end of the day, I just enjoy anything that sounds good to me. I don't really care who made it or who else listens to it, because that information is really irrelevant to the piece of music itself.)

So basically: On headphones, I prefer the "brostep", but on a larger system, I prefer deeper, sub-bassy stuff. Since most "kids" don't have a nice sound-system at their disposal, they obviously are going to gravitate more towards the "brostep", because they can actually hear it.

The other point I wanted to make was, yeah, the "brostep" stuff may be clogging the forums with "how do i maek diz durti skrilx b@ss!!!!?/11", but in the end, I think it is only beneficial to dubstep. If it wasn't for the machine-like stuff, I wouldn't have discovered the "true dubstep", and I know there are others who have found the "true dubstep" the same way as I did. And the people that are only "jumping on the bandwagon" wouldn't have been dubstep fans in the first place, so it's not like it's exactly hurting "true dubstep". Yeah, it's pissing off some long-time fans (which I'm not disagreeing with, I would probably be upset too), but in the end it's only beneficial because after the "brostep" tide washes back out to sea, there are going to be a lot more "true" dubstep fans washed up on shore.

[cityzen]

So, what about us kids who love both sounds? Are we just not allowed to? Is something wrong with me for liking brostep AND skream/benga/burial/ etc ?

You get a pat on the head

[garethom]

So, what about us kids who love both sounds? Are we just not allowed to? Is something wrong with me for liking brostep AND skream/benga/burial/ etc ?

You get a pat on the head

This. It's not a competition man. Like what you want.

[jsaxton]

So, what about us kids who love both sounds? Are we just not allowed to? Is something wrong with me for liking brostep AND skream/benga/burial/ etc ?

You get a pat on the head

This. It's not a competition man. Like what you want.

it is a competiton...that i won

[Shum]

So, what about us kids who love both sounds? Are we just not allowed to? Is something wrong with me for liking brostep AND skream/benga/burial/ etc ?

You get a pat on the head

This. It's not a competition man. Like what you want.

[Blastfome]

SO what about the "adults" that like "brostep"? Ur tellin me that the only people that enjoy that music is the younger crowd? Ur tellin me there's not atleast ONE 40 year old in this whole world who likes "filth" music? hahhahahaha. You guys are full of shiit sometimes. I'm 19, and to some I may be a kid, but I live on my own, do everything that you do, so guess what, I'm an ADULT. I love skream, benga, burial, mala, etc. but I also love flux, skrillex, datsik, etc. MUSIC IS ALL ABOUT PERSONAL OPINION. Stop making excuses for the evolution of music. Things progress, expand. It's a part of life and we need to get over that concept. If humans didn't "evolve" from what some scientists believe to be as monkeys, where would we be today? In a tree swinging from branch to branch eating bananas all day.

My point is, people need to stop making excuses for this music shift. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it's "crap" music or that it's just some silly immature "phase". And it's actually quite rude when you say the only people that like that kinda music are kids. That's just plain dumb seeing as your parents are probably up in ther room jammin to some Skrillex as we speak

All i'm sayin is, it's a matter of opinion. We can like what ever music we want, and people need to get it through their heads that you can't control what "good" music is. The words GOOD and BAD are pretty much opinionated words in themselves. Let people listen to what they want, and love the music. That's what it's all about

[AJP UK]

I don't see much positivity in the midrange, smashy brostep, nor do I see a ton of progression; so I just wont listen to it. My energy and devotion will always lay with the originators of the game. Period.

[AJP UK]

SO what about the "adults" that like "brostep"? Ur tellin me that the only people that enjoy that music is the younger crowd? Ur tellin me there's not atleast ONE 40 year old in this whole world who likes "filth" music? hahhahaha

Not just that, but also people who are uneducated in the production of this music. I expect most people who really like 'brostep' don't really understand or appreciate production value. Check out my YouTube channel man; educate yourself... oh, I'm also 19.

[Blastfome]

I don't understand or appreciate? My good sir, I was in wind symphony, marching band, took music theory, and produce music on my own time as well. So ur tellin me i'm "uneducated" because I don't soley like "your" type of music? hahahahaha, wow. You close minded people are the only ones that sound stupid, uneducated, immature, and anything else you guys call us "brosteppers". hahahaha. Sorry man, but didn't you not read my first post? I said I in fact DO like mala, burial, dmz, etc. So does that mean i'm only half educated?

You guys need to make up ur damn mind already....

[-[2]DAY_-]

brostep drums suck. drums are what got me into dubstep in the first place. that's all i ever have to say on the matter.

[AJP UK]

I don't understand or appreciate? My good sir, I was in wind symphony, marching band, took music theory, and produce music on my own time as well. So ur tellin me i'm "uneducated" because I don't soley like "your" type of music?

I ask you. Which one sounds like it has cheap, soulless production value?

[cityzen]

@Blastfome: Either you haven't read the thread properly or you're trollin. Which is it?

[Pistonsbeneath]

I don't understand or appreciate? My good sir, I was in wind symphony, marching band, took music theory, and produce music on my own time as well. So ur tellin me i'm "uneducated" because I don't soley like "your" type of music? hahahahaha, wow. You close minded people are the only ones that sound stupid, uneducated, immature, and anything else you guys call us "brosteppers". hahahaha. Sorry man, but didn't you not read my first post? I said I in fact DO like mala, burial, dmz, etc. So does that mean i'm only half educated?

You guys need to make up ur damn mind already....

what do you think of the mixdown on this?



and how about this?

[Blastfome]

Is that all you guys can say? Post 2 videos and ask which one is better? haha, like I said numerous ammounts of times, it's all a matter of opinion. Someone might think that lost gold was produced better, while others may think firepower is more well produced. Unless the tune is COMPLETELY crap, as in, it sounds like a 5 year old butchered this song together, then you have no right to say what is and isn't produced well. In fact, there are many "brostep" producers such as Skrillex, Excision, Datsik, and don't forget DOWNLINK who produce their tunes amazingly. Ur tellin me that Downlink's mixdowns aren't fantastic? His attention to detail is great. ANd there are plenty of the "deeper" procuders that have AMAZING production skill. That doesn't mean you can force people to like it.

But yet you still sit here trying to argue that only "your" type of music is produced well and everything else sucks. hahaha, get over yourselves.

EDIT: And no, I DID read this thread, and you guys were thrashing on people, calling us kids and uneducated because we like this type of music. So no, i'm not trolling, i'm expressing facts

[cityzen]

I'll be back in a minute to tell you why, but for now i'll just say this (and yes i'm aware this will confirm the demise of this thread), you're an idiot.

[Blastfome]

@Blastfome: Either you haven't read the thread properly or you're trollin. Which is it?

hahahaha, another failed attempt to make a valid statement I see

Sorry that i've only stated mere facts. You can't force people to like music. Just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean it's crap. It's all a matter of opinion. And still, nobody has answered if i'm only half educated because I do like both sides of the genre