birthday is this week...fostex pm1's or krk rp6's?

[nowaysj]

Can't say, really. My krk's sound good to me. I felt they were the flattest when I listened. They're not fatiguing like my old ns-10m's were. They simply did not have enough bass, so had to add the sub.

I've heard relatively good things about the Fostex monitors, but have never heard them. I don't even know where you're getting them from. My only experience with a fostex product... I used to own a 16 channel fostex mixer, this one minus 2 channels:



Unfortunately it was stolen, could really use it now. The board was average I'd say.

I wouldn't buy monitors without listening to them. I feel you though, you just need decent monitors, whatever really.

[lyons238]

Can't say, really. My krk's sound good to me. I felt they were the flattest when I listened. They're not fatiguing like my old ns-10m's were. They simply did not have enough bass, so had to add the sub.

I've heard relatively good things about the Fostex monitors, but have never heard them. I don't even know where you're getting them from. My only experience with a fostex product... I used to own a 16 channel fostex mixer, this one minus 2 channels:



Unfortunately it was stolen, could really use it now. The board was average I'd say.

I wouldn't buy monitors without listening to them. I feel you though, you just need decent monitors, whatever really.

damn where was that thing stolen from?

if i get the fostex i will be ordering them online brand new for $320 (i found a good deal and then contacted another company which said theyll beat any price ). if i got the krk's they would be 400 bucks. so ill be saving a bit of cash with the fostex's too. but yeah i wont be able to listen to the fostex's before buying them. no where has them in stock. iv already heard the krk's and i liked them. but i wasn't comparing and analyzing them with another monitor either so its hard to tell...

like i said i think either monitor will do just fine for me and the purposes i will need them for either monitor will be fine. i think at this point im just trying to justify my decision to avoid buyers remorse. hahaha what a way to chose my monitors

[gen_]

I have an opinion on subs. External units are not the way to go. There are two subs built into my rp8s and I wouldnt touch another sub.

First this splits your soundsources, allowing phasing if you have subs in your speakers (like rokits do) secondly its like building the bass element of your monitor yourself, because it will sound very different in every room and position within a room. Finally most people I have seen that owned a pair put them under a table. This has the effect as putting the sub in a box, making things even more unpredictabl.

Of course you can always turn them off as you make tunes and then back on when you jam. Just know that unless your an acoustic designer or hire one you're just creating a mix liability

EDIT stupid autocomplete on my phone making me look like I'm chatting shit.

[benjam]

I have an opinion on subs. External units are not the way to go. There are two subs built into my rp8s and I wouldnt touch another sub.

Eh? Subs built in to rp8s? Are you sure mate?

[MikkiFunk]

First this splits your soundsources, allowing phasing if you have subs in your speakers (like rokits do) secondly its like building the bass element of your monitor yourself, because it will sound very different in every room and position within a room. Finally most people I have seen that owned a pair put them under a table. This has the effect as putting the sub in a box, making things even more unpredictabl.

Of course you can always turn them off as you make tunes and then back on when you jam. Just know that unless your an acoustic designer or hire one you're just creating a mix liability

Finest bit of sense i've seen on here before, regarding subs. I strongly agree with this, and always have. Before you think about buying a sub, and I tell everyone this that enquires about buying a sub; spend the money you've saved up for the sub on acoustic treatment instead, then maybe buy a sub later when you have a better room that is more acoustically controlled. Getting a sub and pumping big low waves around an untreated room will only cause more trouble that it's worth when it comes to mixing. And piss off the neighbours/ your parents/ whoever listens downstairs to no end...

[lyons238]

well guys im honestly not too worried about the resonances and peaks and valleys i will create by using a sub. im just trying to learn right now. the only people that hear my songs (which i usually dont finish at the point in time because i learn so much everyday and always start new ones) are my friends. i like bass and still imo when working with the bottom end a sub is better than no sub. id rather have somewhat of a representation of the bottom end rather than none at all, feel me?

eventually ill do some DIY room treatment, but honestly im not too worried for now. plus i have some headphones to check my mix on.

[nowaysj]

You would be better served by a larger woofer in you monitor rather than a sub. Only reason I got the sub was because I already had the 5's and there just was nothing down there at all. Room treatment would have done nothing for me in that regard. I don't have the problems that the above posters mention regarding subs though. That's why flexibility in tuning your sub is important.

[sellout]

shove a flac through those krks lovely


(im june 10th btw )

[lyons238]

You would be better served by a larger woofer in you monitor rather than a sub. Only reason I got the sub was because I already had the 5's and there just was nothing down there at all. Room treatment would have done nothing for me in that regard. I don't have the problems that the above posters mention regarding subs though. That's why flexibility in tuning your sub is important.

Ya I agree. But 8inch monitors are a tad big for my area and plus they only still go down to about 45hz. I want to be able to monitor all the way down to 30hz. Thats as low as I would ever go with my bass unless I were making a 20hz test tone for a sub or something.

For the price and my circumstances I feel the fostex monitors and sub will do me well.

I do plan on getting a sub isolation pad for the sub too. I have wood floors at home and they dont like a sub directly on them. Even placing mouse pads under my current logitech sub helped a lot.

[pete_bubonic]

What ya getting then?!

[Gurnumsbug]

Not stealing the thread but I just found some guy selling a pair of limited edition KRK RP 6 G2's for $175.00 USD
Is that worth the pair or does it sound a little shady?:/
Ps. I would need to return my K240's in order to purchase them:/

[nowaysj]

175 each or for the pair? If for the pair, sounds maybe a little shady, you know the guy? Trust the guy? Can test them before you buy them? Get him to agree in writing to a 3 day return no questions asked?

If it is legit, I'd drop those headphones if you can actually listen to those speakers loud enough, ie without bothering people that live with you/neighbors.

[Gurnumsbug]

175$ for the pair!
Yeah I was a little nervous looking into it!
But Yeah Ill email him with some questions:D

[lyons238]

What ya getting then?!

i ordered the fostex pm1 mk2's. they will be coming in on thursday

will let you know my first impressions. not that it matters cuz i think anything half way decent will sound good to my untrained dogs

[blakedipp]

I have the krk rp6 and I love them.
spent 250 for both of them I believe. This was three months ago.

[gen_]

I have an opinion on subs. External units are not the way to go. There are two subs built into my rp8s and I wouldnt touch another sub.

Eh? Subs built in to rp8s? Are you sure mate?

Positive, the hole below the big yellow mid-cone is a front firing port.

[lyons238]

I have an opinion on subs. External units are not the way to go. There are two subs built into my rp8s and I wouldnt touch another sub.

Eh? Subs built in to rp8s? Are you sure mate?

Positive, the hole below the big yellow mid-cone is a front firing port.

not rly considered a sub imo. and it only goes down to 45hz? still pretty good but a dedicated sub will go down to about 20hz.

[gen_]

I have an opinion on subs. External units are not the way to go. There are two subs built into my rp8s and I wouldnt touch another sub.

Eh? Subs built in to rp8s? Are you sure mate?

Positive, the hole below the big yellow mid-cone is a front firing port.

not rly considered a sub imo. and it only goes down to 45hz? still pretty good but a dedicated sub will go down to about 20hz.

I don't know why the spec says that, and I'll tell you from use that they have really no problem throwing out 30hz solidly. Trust me, I have a public nuisance fine on my hands right now because of them.

[lyons238]

I have an opinion on subs. External units are not the way to go. There are two subs built into my rp8s and I wouldnt touch another sub.

Eh? Subs built in to rp8s? Are you sure mate?

Positive, the hole below the big yellow mid-cone is a front firing port.

not rly considered a sub imo. and it only goes down to 45hz? still pretty good but a dedicated sub will go down to about 20hz.

I don't know why the spec says that, and I'll tell you from use that they have really no problem throwing out 30hz solidly. Trust me, I have a public nuisance fine on my hands right now because of them.

well they go down to 45hz +/- 2db. so anything below 45hz will no longer be flat. but yeah your right they do probly go down to 32hz or so. because it says my fostex pm1's go down to 50hz +/- 2db. but they really go down to 38hz. but thats still no sub replacement imo.

anyone every try ARC for room treatment instead of acoustic treatment?
http://www.amazon.com/Multimedia-Advanc ... B000ZK4TIY

[gen_]

ARC can't really match room treatment (it can fix time based and frequency based issues but not things like standing waves and room reverb) but I've tried ERGO (KRK's hardware version) and It does work pretty good.