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Granular synthesis...

Post by mmjdw » Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:32 pm

I've heard this is good for creating SFX and crazy noises so, can anyone direct me to a synth or sampler (preferably freeware) that provides granular synthesis, as well as some sort of explanation as to what it is? I couldn't find anything on search?

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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by Fbac » Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:15 pm

The march issue of Computer music covers this subject.

The freeware version mentioned was: GranulOSO (http://www.roughdiamondsproductions.com)
-says comes with powerful filters.

Lidsquids Grapheed synth (http://www.lidsquid.de)
- says its as simple a synth as you can get <---may be worth starting here.



(Taken from Computer music article)
- Its all about dividing a piece of sound continuously until your left with a very tiny portion - a grain.

By manipulating, stretching, duplicating and otherwise messing around with these grains you can create entirly new and interesting sounds.

Although the most common use for granular synthesis is for the creation of huge sweeping pads it can also be used for melodic parts too.

-Imagine that you've taken a piece of audio and cut it with the scissors tool in your daw into thousands of pieces -grains -. If you were to rearange, reverse, pitchshift and otherwise maipulate them, this would be Granuler synthesis at its most basic.

- Things get really interesting when you start duplicating the grains, after rendering a sound down into thousends of grains, you can duplicate and compile them as a "Grain Cloud". By controlling the density and shape of this cloud, you can determine the exact nature of the sound and create huge, swirling landscapes. The cloud can be shaped not only by a controlled degree of overall randomization but also by the envelope settings of each grain.


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Hope this helps . the synth they used in there tutorial was Kenaxis which is $49

and for the non-synth tutorial they used GRM tools freeze (http://www.grmtools.org/qt/files/Freeze.html) there shop was down but they have a 15-day trial.
there should be a free version of something similer on the net.
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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by the dub lemon » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:52 pm

The ones I use (all pay for though) are Absynth, Alchemy & Reaktor.

Granular synthesis is fun :)

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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by 3za » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:06 pm

the dub lemon wrote:The ones I use (all pay for though) are Absynth, Alchemy FL Granulizer & Reaktor.

Granular synthesis is fun :)
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Post by Mad_EP » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:21 pm

If you follow Richard Devine on Facebook, the guy posts tons of freeware granular synthesis stuff all the time (as well as payware & hardware).

Last one I grabbed recently was Amber X... nice & fun.
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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by thor_beatz » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:39 pm

I really love the granulizer in FL studio. Just 3 or 4 parameters that always do what you want. Most of the granular tools out there are really "abstract".

just posted this http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=184603 about granular synthesis.
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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by Wave Mekanix » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:01 am

I've always had a hardt ime getting a nice sound with enough tone that I'd want to use from granular synth. It seems like the more you want to do with a sound the more flat and fizzy it sounds in the end. I got alchemy just sittin there. Probably just need a lot more work at it, but I get the same kinds of results from Reason's Malestrom.

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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by thor_beatz » Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:03 am

Wave Mekanix wrote:I've always had a hardt ime getting a nice sound with enough tone that I'd want to use from granular synth. It seems like the more you want to do with a sound the more flat and fizzy it sounds in the end. I got alchemy just sittin there. Probably just need a lot more work at it, but I get the same kinds of results from Reason's Malestrom.

the two synth;s your mentioning use multiple synthesis mode's at once. It might be possible to only use granulating though. But it might be worth to start out with a simple plugin.
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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by RandoRando » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:59 am

the fruity granulizer might as well be called the excisionskrillexdeath machine roboterizer lol can make some crazy nasty shit by messing with a sample of the water flowing or something,
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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by wub » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:24 am

RandoRando wrote:the fruity granulizer might as well be called the excisionskrillexdeath machine roboterizer lol can make some crazy nasty shit by messing with a sample of the water flowing or something,
One of my favourite videos re; the Granulizer, and the basis for one of my FL sound design templates;




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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by legend4ry » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:26 am

^ wow - you could easily make a whole transformer's film sound scape with that set up haha!
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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by wub » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:27 am

legend4ry wrote:^ wow - you could easily make a whole transformer's film sound scape with that set up haha!

Pretty much - one of the first samples I ever ran through it was Wiley's vocal from Business Man looped. Was mental :lol:

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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by RandoRando » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:05 am

wub wrote:
RandoRando wrote:the fruity granulizer might as well be called the excisionskrillexdeath machine roboterizer lol can make some crazy nasty shit by messing with a sample of the water flowing or something,
One of my favourite videos re; the Granulizer, and the basis for one of my FL sound design templates;




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Now why didnt i think of the x-y controller! im over here looking like a mad retarded scientist who likes im inventing quantam electricity messing with two faders on my mpk lol
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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by Karoshi » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:09 pm

wub wrote:
legend4ry wrote:^ wow - you could easily make a whole transformer's film sound scape with that set up haha!

Pretty much - one of the first samples I ever ran through it was Wiley's vocal from Business Man looped. Was mental :lol:
cant see vid cos im in work but is it the one where guy runs a drum loop through it, connects it to an xy controller and records the transformer noises into edison? i got a whole bank of samples i made after watching this! freakin awesome fun :h:
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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by wub » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:13 pm

snick01 wrote:cant see vid cos im in work but is it the one where guy runs a drum loop through it, connects it to an xy controller and records the transformer noises into edison? i got a whole bank of samples i made after watching this! freakin awesome fun :h:

Yeah, that's the one 8)

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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by MoonUnit » Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:16 pm

I've always had a hardt ime getting a nice sound with enough tone that I'd want to use from granular synth. It seems like the more you want to do with a sound the more flat and fizzy it sounds in the end. I got alchemy just sittin there. Probably just need a lot more work at it, but I get the same kinds of results from Reason's Malestrom.
I've been messing around with Malestrom for a bit and have come to the conclusion that less is more in terms of the number of grains you oscillate between. You can make some patches with a lot of potential by using mod A to move the index with the motion of your targeted oscillator set to 0. This may already be common knowledge, but it's what I've learned on my own and hope it helps.

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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by Crosby » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:03 pm

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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by dblaze » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:14 pm

here are some granular sounds i made in skanner xt. https://soundcloud.com/mazimo/grains i want to layer them with massive but don't have any good sounding patches to do so. im also looking for a granular synthesizer that can make these same sounds but sustained. skanner xts parameters are really hard to manipulate. if anybody's got any suggestions let me know :)

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Re: Granular synthesis...

Post by Turnipish_Thoughts » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:04 am

Hourglass

Only granular engine you'll ever need. Blows the utter shit out of Alchemy's/Absynth's/Reaktor's granular capabilities, and it's completely free. It's actually surprisingly unknown considering it's sheer depth and power. One of the scenes proper secret little gems :Q:







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