MASTERING IN REASON?

[boo131]

Right so the thing is, I love reason for its synth power and i think i can get it sounding pretty good but everywhere i read that you shouldnt try and master in reason? you should export it to cubase or fl or somethin for the mastering stage. I'm starting to get pikky with the overall sound of my mixes and dont want to spend time learning to make it sound good in reason, to have to later learn how to use cubase. Am i better off getiing cubase now and giving it a shot?
Also.. my left ear seems more accurate than my right so when i put a mix down and get it soundin good i swap my headphones over and it sounds pants just wandered if anyone had any experiance of this and i guess my best option is to invest in some studio monitors but cash is a bit short at them min.
anyway i tried to master the track in my sig in reason i dont think it sounds to bad but I will let you be the judge of that

[flatfaced]

are you a mastering engineer ?

[boo131]

Nope just a bedroom producer

[flatfaced]

why would you try to master your works then - mastering comes from the things that you make on the master channel...

if you're talkin mixin down then i dont know if rsn is the greatest idea

[boo131]

Reason is all i have ever used.. i dont know listen to it it sounds ok dont it? i just want to go the right way about things not the long winded way

[legend4ry]

The tune in your sig is clean sounding, gain structuring is nice but has no character, it sounds a bit flat, that might be the lack of atmosphere though, its screaming for a nice crash in there too .. Also the sub isn't loud enough.

I wouldn't call it a master - I'd say its a loud mix down... A master is the final professional copy of a piece of music and that sounds a bit unfinished.

I wouldn't worry too much about mastering anyway, if a tunes signed the label 'should' get it mastered by a professional with your input in what you want out of the master and I don't know any ME who uses reason.

[AJGR]

using the reason m-class devices are ok if you just want to play your track in a club, but it's not really pro sounding. btw nobody masters in cubase either, wavelab and hardware is what they use.

[flatfaced]

rsn doesnt have spectral analyzer - thats not cool...i know somebody were usin vocoder for the purpose...and the mixer doesnt have numbers as long as i remember

[brettheaslewood]

rsn doesnt have spectral analyzer - thats not cool...i know somebody were usin vocoder for the purpose...and the mixer doesnt have numbers as long as i remember

what do you mean the mixer doesn't have numbers!? :S

[Skrew]

I've always wanted to try Reason, but when I got the chance too, I was too lazy to learn it.

[boo131]

So i need to wait to get my work noticed by a label before it gets mastered?? i thought it had to be top notch to evan get a look at? maybe i'm gettin the wrong end of the stick, and yes it wil sound a bit flat it is still a WIP. Thanks for your advice people, anyone know how to go about gettin labels involved?

[Debaser1]

The only real mastering I do in reason is like maybe a stereo enhancer over the lot. All proper mastering is done in Logic Pro. Multipressors, limiters, compression, automation etc.
Truth be told. Reason is a MIDi orgy, but good for not much more. Leave your fine tuning, audio editing and mastering for Logic/Cubase.

[flatfaced]

what do you mean the mixer doesn't have numbers!? :S

the meters's numbers

anyone know how to go about gettin labels involved?

yeah - do not leave your computer

Reason is a MIDi orgy, but good for not much more.

lol and offtopically FL is one big drum machine

[Debaser1]

Not complaining about reason btw, I love it and make all my shit in it.

[flatfaced]

the synths are pretty solid

[boo131]

SO final thought. WOrth learning to do or worth left well alone for the pros?

[slothrop]

So i need to wait to get my work noticed by a label before it gets mastered?? i thought it had to be top notch to evan get a look at? maybe i'm gettin the wrong end of the stick, and yes it wil sound a bit flat it is still a WIP. Thanks for your advice people, anyone know how to go about gettin labels involved?

There are plenty of people on this forum (and elsewhere) offering free or cheap mastering services. If they're any good at all then you'll learn a lot from getting them to do your tunes and asking what they did to it, as well as getting your tunes mastered.

The experience I've had of 'mastering' was sticking something up on a forum and having someone say "it's alright, but the high end is really lacking - look here's a version of the wav file where I've cut the midrange and boosted the top and it sounds much better". And it did sound much better.

On which non-evidence I'd say that the main things that are necessary to do rough-and-ready stick-it-up-on-soundcloud mastering are, in order:
i) the ability to spot what's wrong with a mix
ii) the skill to know what to do about it
iii) the monitoring and listening environment to do i) effectively
iv) the tools to do ii) effectively.

Long story short, I reckon Jason from Transition could do a lot better with Reason (and a good monitoring setup) than you or me could do with all the shiny kit in Transition Studios. Ie being stuck with Reason is probably the least of your worries.

[slothrop]

SO final thought. WOrth learning to do or worth left well alone for the pros?

IMHO -
learn to spot what's wrong with your mix (and - bonus - have the option of fixing it in the mix rather than on the master bus) - definitely
learn to crunch a bit of extra welly out of it without ragging the sound too much before sticking it on soundcloud - probably
learn to master to a high standard for release - learn it if you enjoy it for its own sake and don't mind investing a lot of time, money, and effort but for practical purposes, leave it to the pros.

[lyons238]

you could get record....

it has an emulated ssl mixer which makes it 100x better for mixing than reason...and then you wouldnt have to lean a new daw and its 169 on ebay.

[flatfaced]

that record thing looks killer