New Coki

[wolf89]

Some Coki is brostep, you can't tell me Coki's tune "badness" is different to bass cannon, your chatting breeze mate!

for starters the word brostep = anyway

i wouldn't class badness and bass cannon together though. so maybe i am chatting breeze!

i've said it to mates before, and i'll say it again here.. but tear out stuff from producers like coki is just different. it still has his production style in it, and whilst it may seem a little 'samey' as of late, there's always something that runs a little deeper. well, for me there is anyway! in no way would i arse lick coki if i didnt like something he was doing, but i just cant group it in what i percieve the word 'brostep' to represent.

Yeah exactly. If you can't hear a difference between Coki and Flux Pavillion you're a fucking idiot.

Like hearing Scooter and Surgeon as the same thing as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, some of Coki's stuff sounds the same lately. But fuck calling it brostep. Saying it's poorly made. Shit like that that just aint true. Bored of it? So what, listen to something else for fuck's sake.

[mikey-bizzle-09]

hahaha sure is Coki fanboy central in here!!! Some of his tunes are alright but they are starting to sound samey now! I don't get why tunes like Horrid Henry aren't classed as brostep (as much as i hate that word) when they aren't that much different to some of the other tunes you lot class as brostep! Who decides what is and what isn't brostep???

[MPathy]

Hats off to coki, the guy pioneered a sound and has made some bangers but I can see why some people would class some of his stuff as "brostep" and I can totally understand why people would be going off him as tunes get more hype as its simply not everyone's cup of tea. The guy is good as what he does there is no denying it and for someone that is known for tear out can you really blame him for experimenting with harder sounds.

I also think his name means his productions get allot more acceptance from heads who are more into the deeper spectrum or dubstep. I mean I would bet my life that had doctor p, skrillex or anyone else who produce a more upfront sound have made horrid henry it wouldn't get half as much attention from "heads". If you get what I'm saying...

[wolf89]

Can you not hear the difference in production style between horrid henry and doctor p?

It's completely different. So is the the general attitude of the track. I mean seriously Doctor P sounds like it's been made exclusively for students to take their shirts off and dance about talking about how filthy it is. It's insanely cheesey. Think about it. Sweet shop has those dumb piano chords. Stupid vocal samples. Cheesy melody when it drops. yo yo sounds. It's so lame it's unbelievable. Same with Tetris. I mean the bits where some randomly shouts "fuck"? Was it written for 10 year olds? No-one else would think that shouting fuck for no reason in a track is funny or cool. Just think before you label Coki as being in with that. He's never going to do that

I'm not even much of a fan of horrid henry. It's kind of boring after a while. But seriously. Go and see Doctor P DJ. I unfortunately end up seeing him once. Worst set ever. Trust me if you went to see him play you'd see a huge difference between him and Coki's sets.

[chico_red]

hahaha sure is Coki fanboy central in here!!! Some of his tunes are alright but they are starting to sound samey now! I don't get why tunes like Horrid Henry aren't classed as brostep (as much as i hate that word) when they aren't that much different to some of the other tunes you lot class as brostep! Who decides what is and what isn't brostep???

You seem to be really missing the point! Brostep is a derogatory term used to describe filthy dubstep without much depth and generally not brilliantly produced. Being heavy on its own does not classify a tune automatically as brostep. Play Me, Ultragore and Rottun are perfect examples of filth with no soul. A world apart from Coki, Jakes and Kromestar's thumping tracks!!!

[bass_culture]

this shit is fucking horrible, sounds like a wannabe excision or funtcase using sytrus

I do hope you're joking...

Coki makes Soundsystem music, as does Mala, end of. Yes it's tearout, but the emphasis is still on the weight, a completely different mentality to so-called bro-step. The bass response is geared towards massive rigs and just doesn't sound right through a normal set of speakers or cans. It's also one of the reasons why both him and Mala continue to cut dubs, and are about the only "names" in the scene who continue to do so.

[smalleydave]

this shit is fucking horrible, sounds like a wannabe excision or funtcase using sytrus

I do hope you're joking...

Coki makes Soundsystem music, as does Mala, end of. Yes it's tearout, but the emphasis is still on the weight, a completely different mentality to so-called bro-step. The bass response is geared towards massive rigs and just doesn't sound right through a normal set of speakers or cans. It's also one of the reasons why both him and Mala continue to cut dubs, and are about the only "names" in the scene who continue to do so.

[wolf89]

hahaha sure is Coki fanboy central in here!!! Some of his tunes are alright but they are starting to sound samey now! I don't get why tunes like Horrid Henry aren't classed as brostep (as much as i hate that word) when they aren't that much different to some of the other tunes you lot class as brostep! Who decides what is and what isn't brostep???

You seem to be really missing the point! Brostep is a derogatory term used to describe filthy dubstep without much depth and generally not brilliantly produced. Being heavy on its own does not classify a tune automatically as brostep. Play Me, Ultragore and Rottun are perfect examples of filth with no soul. A world apart from Coki, Jakes and Kromestar's thumping tracks!!!

That really.

People on this board tend to divide everything into "brostep" or "deep" too much.

If something starts sounding at all hype or crazy it's suddenly brostep regardless of the fact it's still got weight, still got feeling to it and still fits with the culture and doesn't have the retarded attitude "brostep" seems to have and isn't throwaway music for teenagers to rip off from youtube while talking about fingering their sister to it or something.

[wolf89]

this shit is fucking horrible, sounds like a wannabe excision or funtcase using sytrus

I do hope you're joking...

Coki makes Soundsystem music, as does Mala, end of. Yes it's tearout, but the emphasis is still on the weight, a completely different mentality to so-called bro-step. The bass response is geared towards massive rigs and just doesn't sound right through a normal set of speakers or cans. It's also one of the reasons why both him and Mala continue to cut dubs, and are about the only "names" in the scene who continue to do so.

This also.

[yoowan]

weird how I liek this but hate horrid henry yet they are so similar.

things i would do to swap lower octave for HH on my dmz021

[MPathy]

Can you not hear the difference in production style between horrid henry and doctor p?

It's completely different. So is the the general attitude of the track. I mean seriously Doctor P sounds like it's been made exclusively for students to take their shirts off and dance about talking about how filthy it is. It's insanely cheesey. Think about it. Sweet shop has those dumb piano chords. Stupid vocal samples. Cheesy melody when it drops. yo yo sounds. It's so lame it's unbelievable. Same with Tetris. I mean the bits where some randomly shouts "fuck"? Was it written for 10 year olds? No-one else would think that shouting fuck for no reason in a track is funny or cool. Just think before you label Coki as being in with that. He's never going to do that

I'm not even much of a fan of horrid henry. It's kind of boring after a while. But seriously. Go and see Doctor P DJ. I unfortunately end up seeing him once. Worst set ever. Trust me if you went to see him play you'd see a huge difference between him and Coki's sets.

Perhaps doctor p was bad example but my point was that I think people give his tunes more of a chance than some other artists producing more upfront stuff.

[wolf89]

Don't really see how. I give everyone a chance and there's plenty other up front stuff that's decent.

and it's not brostep. There's a world of difference between them

[kingldub]

I don't like it so I'm gonna call it Brostep because it makes me look cool, yeah? Fuck this I'm off to Starbucks.

[force1]

you can't tell me Coki's tune "badness" is different to bass cannon, your chatting breeze mate!

dont fuck about.

but some of this fresher material is tear out bro and it's the truth.

Spongebob was released in 07 bro?

Funny thing is, 'spongebob' sounds just as tear out as 'badness' but there was nothing else like it at the time, no one could put his music in a box. Coki's doin the same shit he's been doing from day, but now its bad music? FACK ORFF

[Psyche]

Pretty soon anything other than a subwoofer churning out a deep note is going to be considered brostep. This brostep / deep argument is turning into nonsense.

If you don't like it, get out of this thread and don't listen to it. Simple enough, right?

[Riddles]

I get the feeling people are not looking at the songs individually any more. A lot of songs are just noise, made by people not understanding the genre, but others are really weighty and well produced tunes too.
I think people are starting to see too much mid range as brostep, without listening to the tune as a whole. A tune needs midrange to give it life, the bass adds weight and strength but without midrange, it wouldnt be anything stunning.
People need to listen to tracks without going in automatically presuming it to be shit.

[compa]

That's where it's at. Energy.

[bidwell]

weren't the same people bitching about doctor pee & sweet shop 6 months ago brown nosing coki and his badness? now he comes out with the same shit as he's always made, and suddenly people have their panties in a ruffle? sounds to me like people have run out of things to bitch about around here.

one thing that i will completely and full heartedly say is that comparing coki to anyone on circus is just blasphemy. the main difference between anyone that produces "brostep" and coki is: you almost can't turn down the bass enough in a coki tune.

no matter how 'tear-out', 'bro-step', 'whatever-the-fuck-you-want-to-call-it' coki's shit is, his bassweight will smash any other producers. period.

[wolf89]

^^^ and the life in his drums, the atmosphere in his tracks and his unique production style?

[chico_red]

when Mala plays Coki's tracks when he is DJing alone, is that him brown nosing his buddy or is it because he genuinly thinks his tracks (including his recent ones) are the business???