Is C2 too low of a note for sub bass?

amphibian · Post by **amphibian** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:15 am

Grimenoceros - nicely responded dude, respect+

In short, to recap - there's 1 of three things wrong if you can't hear your sub:

1. It's too high in frequency
2. It's too low in frequency
3. You've got some fucked up phasing happening on the bottom end (which really shouldn't unless you're trying to widen your sub or other crazy shit)

antipode · Post by **antipode** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:22 am

Real gangsters going into the 1's. trust.

paravrais · Post by **paravrais** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:02 am

amphibian wrote:Grimenoceros - nicely responded dude, respect+

In short, to recap - there's 1 of three things wrong if you can't hear your sub:

1. It's too high in frequency
2. It's too low in frequency
3. You've got some fucked up phasing happening on the bottom end (which really shouldn't unless you're trying to widen your sub or other crazy shit)

4. Nothing in the track has been high passed and the low end is as muddy as glastonbury.
5. You haven't turned the faders up and it's peaking really low. (You might laugh but I've done this before, "whys my sub so quiet I don't get it??? oh right...")

AJGR · Post by **AJGR** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:50 am

C2=65hz

Grimenoceros · Post by **Grimenoceros** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:26 am

paravrais wrote:
amphibian wrote:Grimenoceros - nicely responded dude, respect+

In short, to recap - there's 1 of three things wrong if you can't hear your sub:

1. It's too high in frequency
2. It's too low in frequency
3. You've got some fucked up phasing happening on the bottom end (which really shouldn't unless you're trying to widen your sub or other crazy shit)
4. Nothing in the track has been high passed and the low end is as muddy as glastonbury.
5. You haven't turned the faders up and it's peaking really low. (You might laugh but I've done this before, "whys my sub so quiet I don't get it??? oh right...")

Yeah, in summary guys; I'm just mixing like a twat at the moment. It's ok, I spend day and night studying and trying to learn new things, and this board is a huge help, this being topic case in point. I guarantee I was fucking up my signal and didn't realize it, I've re-hashed my whole synth and mixer channel and already getting better results/getting that rumble back.

I'm fighting with getting a handle on the gain theory concept still, which is what's throwing my mixing off (in a good way, the mixes are sounding so much better, but as a side effect of me not knowing what I'm doing yet, I'm banging around the faders like a tool and bringing levels too far down/burying them).

And yeah, trust me I don't ever want to come off as pretentious or a douche, 'cause I'm really not. I respect everyone here and am more than happy to help the guys that are even newer than me, and I just expect that same treatment back. Doesn't matter if you've made 26 hits or never touched a mixer, just be nice lol

amphibian · Post by **amphibian** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:10 pm

wanted to come back to this thread on what octave my note was in - I'm currently playing an E# in octave 0. It's sitting at 39hz. So I wasn't wrong

NER NER NER! lol

antipode · Post by **antipode** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:29 pm

Soundcloud

this is at c2#. not really that low. all about the sine though.

amphibian wrote:I'm currently playing an E# in octave 0

I thought E1 was deep. really need (want) a sub.

lowpass · Post by **lowpass** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:23 pm

Yes, it is, don't use it, ever

hutyluty · Post by **hutyluty** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:41 pm

D1 is my favourite note- but starting suspect noone else can hear it

FuzionDubstep · Post by **FuzionDubstep** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:02 pm

it depends on what oscillator the sub is running at? if you put it on a high oscillator mode then C2 will be too low and vice versa, if it sounds good then do it but if you cant hear it upgrade your system or make a new sub-bass patch?.

jyro · Post by **jyro** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:25 pm

I'm trying to make sense of something...
I'v making a subbass through my oscillator, and I'm going to F0 (f- zero) and I can still hear the note in my headphones. I also have the frequency cut off below 20Hz, so I assume if I can hear it and Im cutting off at the right place, then there should be no problems despite the fact that it is in the zero key range?

James B · Post by **James B** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:25 pm

you want your SPL at 50hz on the lowest note. i use logic and its c1 for me

skimpi · Post by **skimpi** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:03 pm

amphibian wrote:wanted to come back to this thread on what octave my note was in - I'm currently playing an E# in octave 0. It's sitting at 39hz. So I wasn't wrong NER NER NER! lol

well there is no E# note, and according to the chart someone posted E1 is around 40hz so you must have the oscillator set to be playing an octave higher, so that when you play the E0 note it actually outputs the pitch of E1.

Gutcha · Post by **Gutcha** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:20 pm

F is the magic key. sub bass resonates best there, abouts 80Hz

antipode · Post by **antipode** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:58 am

James B wrote:you want your SPL at 50hz on the lowest note.

that doesn't make sense

budsteq · Post by **budsteq** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:12 am

wtf. C2? D0?!?! I can barely hear shit if I have my sub on C3!

Then again I don't really have good speakers...

hifi · Post by **hifi** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:45 am

Grimenoceros wrote:Quick question here, I normally don't have a problem making sub, but for this next track I set the root to C, and C3 just sounds too high and not car-shaking, and then C2 is inaudible both on headphones and barely felt in my car. Its not my subwoofers, they're functioning jusstt fine, and hell even my older tracks the sub still sounds fine. Im just thinking maybe its that C2 is too low.

Sumised question: what's the best note for a sub to get that traditional rattle/vibration, without going too low?

F1

grooki · Post by **grooki** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:26 am

I think this thread is full of

Shum · Post by **Shum** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:28 am

lulz my bass is so deep dat elephants be getting down in the dance blud.

lolmatelol · Post by **lolmatelol** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:01 am

If I have my sub peaking at around 48hz in f1, should I add an f0 to get some sub with it that peaks around 20 summin Hz aswell, or is that a no no?

I'm having a bit of trouble getting that rumble on a big system..

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