Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by .onelove. » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:40 pm

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badger wrote:beats alright but it's straight up hip hop surely? i don't understand the obsession with sticking the "grime" tag on everything these days
Grime is Europe's version of Hip Hop. Gunna have to deal wit it bro
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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by kidshuffle » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:46 pm

.onelove. wrote:
kidshuffle wrote:
badger wrote:beats alright but it's straight up hip hop surely? i don't understand the obsession with sticking the "grime" tag on everything these days
Grime is Europe's version of Hip Hop. Gunna have to deal wit it bro
Laugh out loud.
Obviously its not a direct child of hip hop, if thats what you're getting at :roll:

Hip Hop is as big as Rock and Roll at this point in life....Grime is currently where Hip Hop was in the mid 80's, just starting to blow up worldwide. All those bullshit dudes in the mainstream are the faces of grime for most people outside the UK, and they're not making too dissimilar of tracks.
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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by LACE » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:48 pm

firky wrote:Carharrat big across there?
It's popular in the sense that it's one of those brands indicating you've managed to get off the island somehow ha.
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Post by Neptune » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:52 pm

wolf89 wrote:What's wrong with Carhartt?
what's right with it.

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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by ahier » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:01 pm

fluffattack wrote:So far, I thought that Danish hip hop was the worst. Thanks for proving that wrong... oO
woah now, malk de koin or however its spelt are fuckin huge

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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by .onelove. » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:07 pm

kidshuffle wrote: Hip Hop is as big as Rock and Roll at this point in life....Grime is currently where Hip Hop was in the mid 80's, just starting to blow up worldwide. All those bullshit dudes in the mainstream are the faces of grime for most people outside the UK, and they're not making too dissimilar of tracks.
Grime has come and gone. Those in the scene that have gone mainstream don't make grime anymore, and I don't mean that in an elitist purist way, I mean they literally do not MC over 140bpm bass heavy tracks. Both Dizzee Rascal & Tinie Tempah spits/sing over electro or just essentially pop.

It was popular for about half a decade from about 2004, but since then has slumped massively. I can't even remember the last Grime track that charted a respectable position?

So yeah, can't see it blowing up globally any time soon. Most foreigners seem to find the British 'urban' accent abhorrent anyway.

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Post by wolf89 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:09 pm

Neptune wrote:
wolf89 wrote:What's wrong with Carhartt?
what's right with it.
I don't own any Carhartt but I got a couple mates who wear a lot of their t shirts which look all right. Am I missing something?

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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by kidshuffle » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:24 pm

.onelove. wrote:
Grime has come and gone. Those in the scene that have gone mainstream don't make grime anymore, and I don't mean that in an elitist purist way, I mean they literally do not MC over 140bpm bass heavy tracks. Both Dizzee Rascal & Tinie Tempah spits/sing over electro or just essentially pop.

It was popular for about half a decade from about 2004, but since then has slumped massively. I can't even remember the last Grime track that charted a respectable position?

So yeah, can't see it blowing up globally any time soon. Most foreigners seem to find the British 'urban' accent abhorrent anyway.
It doesn't matter that it doesn't sound like traditional Grime. They're the biggest stars to come out of the scene, so what ever they do for "x" years will dictate what Grime is in popular culture. I know its not Grime, I've been listening to it since '02. I've also Chipmunk winning a BET award not too long ago, heard Tinie Tempah on my local radio station numerous times and just saw him preform on SNL or Leno's late night gig (think it was the later). The name is bigger than you think.

People also thought the southern accent was bad too, but look where thats gone.
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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by .onelove. » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:32 pm

kidshuffle wrote: It doesn't matter that it doesn't sound like traditional Grime. They're the biggest stars to come out of the scene, so what ever they do for "x" years will dictate what Grime is in popular culture. I know its not Grime, I've been listening to it since '02. I've also Chipmunk winning a BET award not too long ago, heard Tinie Tempah on my local radio station numerous times and just saw him preform on SNL or Leno's late night gig (think it was the later). The name is bigger than you think.

People also thought the southern accent was bad too, but look where thats gone.
Mmm, I actually get what you're saying now. I suppose you're suggesting 'UK Urban' (however cringeworthy the term is) has become mainstream, that I can't really argue with, even though it sounds nothing like Grime. Can definitely see the parallels with Hip-Hop then, as most of the watered down RnB chart shite doesn't qualify as real Hip-Hop either.

Still, I'm surprised that Tinie Tempah gets air play over in the US. What about ndubz, have they reached your shores and offended your ear drums yet?

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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by Plasmic aka Hanlo » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:36 pm

Respect for trying to spread grime in europe!

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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by badger » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:46 am

.onelove. wrote:I suppose you're suggesting 'UK Urban' (however cringeworthy the term is) has become mainstream, that I can't really argue with, even though it sounds nothing like Grime. Can definitely see the parallels with Hip-Hop then, as most of the watered down RnB chart shite doesn't qualify as real Hip-Hop either.
this is it essentially. "grime" is now the codeword for "uk urban" or whatever stupid name you want to attach to it. personally i couldn't really give a fuck what the old grime crew are doing these days but i doubt even they would insist on calling it grime. nice to see wiley still doing his thing though even if he's made some (mostly quite good) blatant pop tunes

i know the whole brostep argument has been done to death, but with the tearout stuff it still has some elements in common, so it's reasonable to still call it dubstep even though it's so far removed. what exactly about that video had anything to do with grime, other than the fact it's a group of blokes with hoods up trying to look hard? obviously it's far more electronic sounding than traditional hip hop but it's still hip hop

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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by khamiz » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:26 pm

.onelove. wrote:
kidshuffle wrote: Hip Hop is as big as Rock and Roll at this point in life....Grime is currently where Hip Hop was in the mid 80's, just starting to blow up worldwide. All those bullshit dudes in the mainstream are the faces of grime for most people outside the UK, and they're not making too dissimilar of tracks.
Grime has come and gone. Those in the scene that have gone mainstream don't make grime anymore, and I don't mean that in an elitist purist way, I mean they literally do not MC over 140bpm bass heavy tracks. Both Dizzee Rascal & Tinie Tempah spits/sing over electro or just essentially pop.
This man is right, I love Grime, but the old Grime MC's are no longer making Grime, they've just stopped. Wiley, Skepta, Bashy, Ghetts, Kano, all MC's I love, but it has to be admitted, they simply do not make Grime anymore. The only person who keeps me hoping is P Money.

This isn't to say there aren't less well known MC's still doing Grime, but the originators and creators have lost it.
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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by .onelove. » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:17 pm

Many it has a farther reach than I thought; Czech Grime;


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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by wormcode » Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:53 am

kidshuffle wrote:heard Tinie Tempah on my local radio station numerous times and just saw him preform on SNL or Leno's late night gig (think it was the later). The name is bigger than you think.
He was on Conan O'brien haha. Not sure about SNL or Leno... Conan usually has some decent acts though, quite a few less famous people, not just huge artists which is cool. To most of the people watching it, it was just normal hip hop or rap though. I remember it was a poppy tune anyway with a live band.

Oh I see videos of him performing on The View too, wow. (It's like Loose Women)
Pretty weird! Check out the grannies getting down.

On topic: The OP video isn't that bad, the instrumental is cool yeah but that ringtone noise gets annoying. Curious what the lyrics are though.


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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by kingGhost » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:44 am

grime... hm.... hey europe, this stuff might be new to you but it's been around the united states for over 30 years now. it's called rap, and/or hip-hop.
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Post by grillis » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:05 am

kingGhost wrote:grime... hm.... hey europe, this stuff might be new to you but it's been around the united states for over 30 years now. it's called rap, and/or hip-hop.
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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by kidshuffle » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:40 am

wormcode wrote: He was on Conan O'brien haha. Not sure about SNL or Leno... Conan usually has some decent acts though, quite a few less famous people, not just huge artists which is cool. To most of the people watching it, it was just normal hip hop or rap though. I remember it was a poppy tune anyway with a live band.

Oh I see videos of him performing on The View too, wow. (It's like Loose Women)
Pretty weird! Check out the grannies getting down.

On topic: The OP video isn't that bad, the instrumental is cool yeah but that ringtone noise gets annoying. Curious what the lyrics are though.

Shit, he was on both Leno and Conan; makin moves!
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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by kidshuffle » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:42 am

khamiz wrote: This man is right, I love Grime, but the old Grime MC's are no longer making Grime, they've just stopped. Wiley, Skepta, Bashy, Ghetts, Kano, all MC's I love, but it has to be admitted, they simply do not make Grime anymore. The only person who keeps me hoping is P Money.

This isn't to say there aren't less well known MC's still doing Grime, but the originators and creators have lost it.
Once again, it doesn't matter what you consider real Grime. If the media calls it Grime, thats what its going to be to the masses.
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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by wormcode » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:43 am

kidshuffle wrote: Shit, he was on both Leno and Conan; makin moves!
Letterman too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brzZj2J4WvM
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Re: Icelandic Grime ((GRÆM))

Post by .onelove. » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:53 am

kingGhost wrote:grime... hm.... hey europe, this stuff might be new to you but it's been around the united states for over 30 years now. it's called rap, and/or hip-hop.
rap...hm...hey america, this stuff might be new to you but it's been around europe for over 1000 years now. it's called music, and/or compositions.


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