whats is Sublow?

rudeski damager · Post by **rudeski damager** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:14 pm

mos dan wrote:
tronman wrote:proper grime. playstation music.

eh?

not at all.

this isn't grime. if u ask cash what he thinks about grime then u will understand.

actually listen to a sublow track. u will see how much more intricate the arrangments and prouduction quality is even down the the mastering and engineering.

u couldn't make a sublow tune on a playstation are u mad.

rudeski damager · Post by **rudeski damager** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:16 pm

also check hard4 and sub44

ppl like herbzman, dj klassic, morph, dj narrows, nat, dips & bare more top producers.

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:17 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBvhx_QB ... ed&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tntRTRkp ... ed&search=

rudeski damager · Post by **rudeski damager** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:22 pm

not sublow bruv

tronman · Post by **tronman** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:22 pm

Rudeski Damager wrote:
mos dan wrote:
tronman wrote:proper grime. playstation music.

eh?

not at all.

this isn't grime. if u ask cash what he thinks about grime then u will understand.

actually listen to a sublow track. u will see how much more intricate the arrangments and prouduction quality is even down the the mastering and engineering.

u couldn't make a sublow tune on a playstation are u mad.

what?

i was talkin about musical mob/youngstar.....

who produced their tunes on music2000..... im sure u got it twisted cos u can't not know this.

rudeski damager · Post by **rudeski damager** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:24 pm

i only read the quote

thought u were sayin that tunes like fairground and spanish fly were made on a ps2

tronman · Post by **tronman** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:26 pm

lmao imagine.

tunes like war and international made on MTV Music Gen

rudeski damager · Post by **rudeski damager** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:27 pm

haha

tronman · Post by **tronman** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:30 pm

G MAN - DRAMA

rudeski damager · Post by **rudeski damager** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:31 pm

have u got that ep?

tronman · Post by **tronman** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:32 pm

yeh bought it off j sweet last year

rudeski damager · Post by **rudeski damager** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:32 pm

ur chest

dstepz · Post by **dstepz** » Sun May 13, 2007 11:22 pm

DJ ODDZ/ALIAS!

sand leaper · Post by **sand leaper** » Mon May 14, 2007 2:29 am

dstepz wrote:DJ ODDZ/ALIAS!

+ DJ Dread D.

"YOU AIN'T COMIN?!!!"

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Mon May 14, 2007 2:53 am

dunno if alias is really sublo
but yh o my this whole period is my favourite music of all time

jam-2 [darqsyde] · Post by **jam-2 [darqsyde]** » Mon May 14, 2007 6:00 am

I completely forgot about the term 8bar. Playstation music? It may very well have been made on a console but pulse X ( the whole whopping 8 bars) is a certified classic in my opinion. It was a pivotal track in garage which at the time was begining to splintering in all sorts of directions with everyone trying to make their own imprint. (Sub-Low and Eski come to mind).
try not to distinguish between the sub genres and refer to it all as underground music , an Umbrella term to cover all of the sub genres and offshoots. I tend to mix them all together and don't get too hung up on the specifics of what sub category its under. I like the contrast of opposing styles working together and 4x4 tends to be the "glue" to keep it all together

I've heard some amazing stuff coming from people whose learned how to properly wrangle the sounds out of a commodore 64, an Amiga, an Atari ST, and even a few who do it from a console. That 8/16bit "game" sound is NOW the heart of dirty south hip hop production. The TR808 sound is on the radio every day now.

A console machine as an instrument is an awesome concept, again proving that "music" however we define it, in its essence can be simplisic or complex and still impactful. The instrument is only as good as the player. The inexperienced Drummer on a full kit complete vs. the Experienced and more creative kid on the corner with the paint buckets? Music is sound, whether you are banging out a beat on a table, Beatboxing, playing out grooves from the latest "must have" plug in, or manually looping the break of a record using turntables DJ Kool Herc Style. Some things are better left undefined.

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Mon May 14, 2007 6:44 am

Jam-2 [Darqsyde] wrote:I completely forgot about the term 8bar. Playstation music? It may very well have been made on a console but pulse X ( the whole whopping 8 bars) is a certified classic in my opinion. It was a pivotal track in garage which at the time was begining to splintering in all sorts of directions with everyone trying to make their own imprint. (Sub-Low and Eski come to mind).
try not to distinguish between the sub genres and refer to it all as underground music , an Umbrella term to cover all of the sub genres and offshoots. I tend to mix them all together and don't get too hung up on the specifics of what sub category its under. I like the contrast of opposing styles working together and 4x4 tends to be the "glue" to keep it all together

I've heard some amazing stuff coming from people whose learned how to properly wrangle the sounds out of a commodore 64, an Amiga, an Atari ST, and even a few who do it from a console. That 8/16bit "game" sound is NOW the heart of dirty south hip hop production. The TR808 sound is on the radio every day now.

A console machine as an instrument is an awesome concept, again proving that "music" however we define it, in its essence can be simplisic or complex and still impactful. The instrument is only as good as the player. The inexperienced Drummer on a full kit complete vs. the Experienced and more creative kid on the corner with the paint buckets? Music is sound, whether you are banging out a beat on a table, Beatboxing, playing out grooves from the latest "must have" plug in, or manually looping the break of a record using turntables DJ Kool Herc Style. Some things are better left undefined.

delendi · Post by **delendi** » Mon May 14, 2007 7:13 am

I loved the playstation era of grime. it all got too serious and crappy and samey after that. i liked 8 bar a LOT. from bein around uptown at the time, sublow was just the new name they came up with for grime. people were always battling to be the one to come up with the finite name cos it hadn't been set in stone yet.

petergunn · Post by **petergunn** » Mon May 14, 2007 9:19 am

3 pages on "what is sublow?"...

i love this forum...

"bang bang" is the catchiest sublow track... "war" is the "eskimo" of sublow, but "bang bang" is the joint... wicked low end...

docdoom · Post by **docdoom** » Mon May 14, 2007 5:30 pm

Cash Beat (Hoods Up dub) is the best one!

And Dread Ds 'gram' and 'guitar'.

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