apparently my wobbles aint intersting enough :/

[Jizz]

I assume your talking about the rate of an lfo. Depending on where you're from, you might just be showing the wrong kind of music to the wrong people. What synth are you using?

Regardless of that, just remember layer your osc. Widen your sound by dropping the pitch down just a few cents, add some reverb. Route the Lfo to multiple parameters like on the filter cutoff and a slight bump on the resonance. Just be creative, use you're imagination. What did you produce before? Its hard to see that you've been a producer for a year now and can't make bass wobbles? Im not trying to provoke, im just curious.
Take virks advice too, that could be a problem.

thats the thing, i didnt produce music before this year of dubstep production lol, i guess u could say im still a n00b producer

so have you or have you not been producing for a year cos it helps if we get a clear view of how experienced you are before giving advice lol,
and you say you use reason just mess about with the spider audio merger do some re-sampling and keep repeating this .. the songs in my signiture are made in reason not sure if that's your taste but the bass sounds are made by re-sampling and chopping the original synth up

ive been producing for a year yh. and yeah ive heard ur tunes before fuzion ur collabs with subvibe are fuckin sick, did not know u made those unholy sounds on reason tho, nice one

ye i might try out merging some diferent synths and wobbling them in different ways lol, i dont know how to say that in technical terms or anything. have u got any advice on that wip of mine that i posted above?

just another question aswell: did u master that tune 30 million in just reason or did u use something else as well?

[GRAYSKALE]

I assume your talking about the rate of an lfo. Depending on where you're from, you might just be showing the wrong kind of music to the wrong people. What synth are you using?

Regardless of that, just remember layer your osc. Widen your sound by dropping the pitch down just a few cents, add some reverb. Route the Lfo to multiple parameters like on the filter cutoff and a slight bump on the resonance. Just be creative, use you're imagination. What did you produce before? Its hard to see that you've been a producer for a year now and can't make bass wobbles? Im not trying to provoke, im just curious.
Take virks advice too, that could be a problem.

thats the thing, i didnt produce music before this year of dubstep production lol, i guess u could say im still a n00b producer

so have you or have you not been producing for a year cos it helps if we get a clear view of how experienced you are before giving advice lol,
and you say you use reason just mess about with the spider audio merger do some re-sampling and keep repeating this .. the songs in my signiture are made in reason not sure if that's your taste but the bass sounds are made by re-sampling and chopping the original synth up

ive been producing for a year yh. and yeah ive heard ur tunes before fuzion ur collabs with subvibe are fuckin sick, did not know u made those unholy sounds on reason tho, nice one

ye i might try out merging some diferent synths and wobbling them in different ways lol, i dont know how to say that in technical terms or anything. have u got any advice on that wip of mine that i posted above?

just another question aswell: did u master that tune 30 million in just reason or did u use something else as well?

In technical terms it would probably be "layering different synths" and "modulating them in different ways"

[GRAYSKALE]

@Jizzman - to be fair mate - I wouldn't say you had much problem with the wobbles - they sound alright, although they definitely need to come down in the mix cause they're eating up all your headroom and you can't here anything else too well (see the moneyshot sticky thread for some invaluable mixing advice), the intro synth sounds a little thin and could probably benefit from either layering up a couple more oscillators underneath or boosting a touch between 200-500hz (a cut just below 200hz might make the lower mids more prominent so I'd probably try that first). It could also use either some chorus, unison, oscialltor detuning or stereo spread to make it sound a bit bigger and less weedy.

Hope that helps bro, and most important bit of advice is to keep experimenting, reason is dynamite for modulating so just try routing everything to everything and seeing what happens. Maybe take a few weeks off writing tunes and just spend all of your time focussing on creating new and interesting sounds.

[Jizz]

@Jizzman - to be fair mate - I wouldn't say you had much problem with the wobbles - they sound alright, although they definitely need to come down in the mix cause they're eating up all your headroom and you can't here anything else too well (see the moneyshot sticky thread for some invaluable mixing advice), the intro synth sounds a little thin and could probably benefit from either layering up a couple more oscillators underneath or boosting a touch between 200-500hz (a cut just below 200hz might make the lower mids more prominent so I'd probably try that first). It could also use either some chorus, unison, oscialltor detuning or stereo spread to make it sound a bit bigger and less weedy.

Hope that helps bro, and most important bit of advice is to keep experimenting, reason is dynamite for modulating so just try routing everything to everything and seeing what happens. Maybe take a few weeks off writing tunes and just spend all of your time focussing on creating new and interesting sounds.

thanks man, i'l folow that advice for the tune. ye i'l probaly have to take a coupla weeks off writing tunes to make some phatness

[fragments]

ive been producing music for nearly a year now and i can make some decent sounds and melodies; but whenever i show my tracks to others most of them say my tunes just need that extra something in there to make it go off. thing is, i do the usual modulation stuff like rate and pitch and blahblah, but that still doesnt cut it apparently. any tips?

You say others claim your tunes need that "extra something". Did you ever stop to think that extra something wasn't the midrange wobble? There are tons of tracks w/ "acceptable" wobble basses that interest me for entirely other reasons.

Note that I'm not even suggestion you stop making wobble tunes...but concentrate on stepping up your productions in other areas. Personally, I think a good balance between a simple/pop/danceable beat and wonky/broken/funky bits adds a lot of contrast to a track (w/o messing about with key changes or complex chord progressions...though those things are good too) and keeps it interesting and sound fresh. And I'd say that about many genres, if not all, genres of EDM.

Also, consider adding subtle melodic elements to your tunes if you aren't. Nothing wrong w/ simple wobbles IMO if you are doing OTHER stuff in the tune to keep me interested. Personally, I often prefer simple wobbles dropped in occasionally as opposed to superfuckcrazydamnasshellking modulated tearout stuff...given the track has other interesting elements.

[FuzionDubstep]

I assume your talking about the rate of an lfo. Depending on where you're from, you might just be showing the wrong kind of music to the wrong people. What synth are you using?

Regardless of that, just remember layer your osc. Widen your sound by dropping the pitch down just a few cents, add some reverb. Route the Lfo to multiple parameters like on the filter cutoff and a slight bump on the resonance. Just be creative, use you're imagination. What did you produce before? Its hard to see that you've been a producer for a year now and can't make bass wobbles? Im not trying to provoke, im just curious.
Take virks advice too, that could be a problem.

thats the thing, i didnt produce music before this year of dubstep production lol, i guess u could say im still a n00b producer

so have you or have you not been producing for a year cos it helps if we get a clear view of how experienced you are before giving advice lol,
and you say you use reason just mess about with the spider audio merger do some re-sampling and keep repeating this .. the songs in my signiture are made in reason not sure if that's your taste but the bass sounds are made by re-sampling and chopping the original synth up

ive been producing for a year yh. and yeah ive heard ur tunes before fuzion ur collabs with subvibe are fuckin sick, did not know u made those unholy sounds on reason tho, nice one

ye i might try out merging some diferent synths and wobbling them in different ways lol, i dont know how to say that in technical terms or anything. have u got any advice on that wip of mine that i posted above?

just another question aswell: did u master that tune 30 million in just reason or did u use something else as well?

thankyou mate!

and yeah reason is sick I love it, PM me the tune and I'll listen in a bit don't have my speakers at the moment and ill give some feedback..
also yeah its mastered in reason for that tune we basically used the '8-band compression' preset and adjusted it slightly and compressed each instrument individually as well to stop clipping and make it a little louder wasn't the best method but it sounds good live and on a home system so yeah give that a try

[notdecidedmusic]

Make sure you add in a sub bass and just lower the volume slightly by like 1 decibel and then return to normal for the drop. It makes the drop hit way harder and gives a much bigger impact on your audience

[NRHc]

the problem is everybody wanna make some tracks now,but don't know shit about:DAWS,Vsts,Music Theory and even audio in general..

[Jizz]

the problem is everybody wanna make some tracks now,but don't know shit about:DAWS,Vsts,Music Theory and even audio in general..

everyone has to start somewhere brah, allow us

[ZimmermanStudios]

the problem is everybody wanna make some tracks now,but don't know shit about:DAWS,Vsts,Music Theory and even audio in general..

This. The problem is the songwriting, not the synth sounds. You cannot give or receive this ultra-specific advice (Assign your LFO here, here and here, use this kind of filter, etc) and expect it to turn boring music into art. Managing vibes and interest through a song, developing a style and producing original music has very little to do with y'alls beloved Massive patches and effect chains.

Imagine yourself as a painter, trying to develop your talent. You look at beautiful classic work after beautiful classic work, holding your own compositions next to them. When they don't level at first, do you research and blow money on what paints were used, spend hours matching exact shades of colors in these famous pieces, and go in and add contrast in photoshop? Or do you learn things like balance and symmetry, and seek out interesting subjects to paint?

I'll end the metaphor here: take a webcam shot of a polaroid of a Degas oil on canvas from 12 feet away and it will still be a powerful piece of art. Take any weak song, have it professionally mixed and mastered, play it on a festival system, and it will still fall flat.

To the OP: specifically to the song you posted, the problem is not a weak wob, it's the 54 second intro that I skipped after hearing 4 bars, and the wobs repeating over and over and over with no break or change

[Jizz]

the problem is everybody wanna make some tracks now,but don't know shit about:DAWS,Vsts,Music Theory and even audio in general..

This. The problem is the songwriting, not the synth sounds. You cannot give or receive this ultra-specific advice (Assign your LFO here, here and here, use this kind of filter, etc) and expect it to turn boring music into art. Managing vibes and interest through a song, developing a style and producing original music has very little to do with y'alls beloved Massive patches and effect chains.

Imagine yourself as a painter, trying to develop your talent. You look at beautiful classic work after beautiful classic work, holding your own compositions next to them. When they don't level at first, do you research and blow money on what paints were used, spend hours matching exact shades of colors in these famous pieces, and go in and add contrast in photoshop? Or do you learn things like balance and symmetry, and seek out interesting subjects to paint?

I'll end the metaphor here: take a webcam shot of a polaroid of a Degas oil on canvas from 12 feet away and it will still be a powerful piece of art. Take any weak song, have it professionally mixed and mastered, play it on a festival system, and it will still fall flat.

To the OP: specifically to the song you posted, the problem is not a weak wob, it's the 54 second intro that I skipped after hearing 4 bars, and the wobs repeating over and over and over with no break or change

thanks for being blunt and truthful about it man, i needed some genuine criticism on this. i will rewrite the tune.

[nowhere]

could someone explain the frequency splitting to me? I understand the idea but wouldnt really know how to go about it. thanks

[RandoRando]

^^^ let's say your using a patch from massive , now send massives output to channel 1. Send Channel 1 to channels 2 3 and 4. Now send all those channels (2,3,4) tochannel 5 which is goingto the master . Now on channel 2 eq everything out except the low end, same for 3 but leave the midrange, then samefor 4 but leave the high end. Now mess with each channel individually

[wub]

could someone explain the frequency splitting to me? I understand the idea but wouldnt really know how to go about it. thanks

This video explains it well. The opening part is about making a Reese sound from 3xOsc, so skip through to about the 4m50s mark where he starts talking about the routing into the mixer and the frequency splitting