It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by Kodachrome » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:31 pm

Plenty have been convicted on (less) circumstantial evidence, that she didn't is a travesty.
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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by collige » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:34 pm

So the fact the justice system hasn't worked in the past is a good reason to keep it that way? That makes no sense.
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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by Kodachrome » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:38 pm

collige wrote:So the fact the justice system hasn't worked in the past is a good reason to keep it that way? That makes no sense.
It hasn't not worked, circumstantial evidence is still evidence.
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Post by collige » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:40 pm

pkay wrote: This is the CSI era. You need more than circumstancial evidence in 2011
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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by faust.dtc » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:43 pm

I was watching this trial whist in Florida and was quite captivated. Its great how you get to watch live trials like this on TV.

I didn't hear the defense but the prosecution seemed to have a pretty strong case against her so i'm surprised by the verdict.

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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by AntlionUK » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:47 pm

Really she should go to jail, if they can't find the killer she should be held responsible as the childs mother for not protecting her.
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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by pkay » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:51 pm

Kodachrome wrote:Plenty have been convicted on (less) circumstantial evidence, that she didn't is a travesty.

I'm not sure where you live but around here not a month goes by that some poor dude is released from prison after 20 something years for being wrongly convicted


better to let 10 casey anthonys go free than put an innocent kodachrome in jail for something they didnt do.


wanna be mad be mad at the prosecutors for trying to base a murder conviction on being a slut.

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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by Kodachrome » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:54 pm

pkay wrote:
Kodachrome wrote:Plenty have been convicted on (less) circumstantial evidence, that she didn't is a travesty.

I'm not sure where you live but around here not a month goes by that some poor dude is released from prison after 20 something years for being wrongly convicted


better to let 10 casey anthonys go free than put an innocent kodachrome in jail for something they didnt do.


wanna be mad be mad at the prosecutors for trying to base a murder conviction on being a slut.
Did you even watch the trial? The prosecution had a strong case against her, the defense were the ones pulling the slut card. Their whole defense was basically "Casey anthony is a troubled liar who was abused by her father" (THERE is something that has no evidence). It was just playing the blame game the whole thing and it was a fucking circus.
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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by pkay » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:04 pm

Kodachrome wrote:
Did you even watch the trial? The prosecution had a strong case against her, the defense were the ones pulling the slut card. Their whole defense was basically "Casey anthony is a troubled liar who was abused by her father" (THERE is something that has no evidence). It was just playing the blame game the whole thing and it was a fucking circus.

My sister is a lawyer and texted me not guilty literally 2 seconds after the forensic anthropoligists testified "we do not know how she died" 3 of the PROSECUTIONS witnesses basically set her free.

You cannot convict in 2011 without forensics or at the very least cause of death to paint a vivid picture of how they died.

The experts painted doubt, the defense expounded on it, that is all that is required in the US.


*edit* from my sister

- how was the kid murdered?
- when was she murdered?
- where was she murdered?
- was she even murdered?

"if you cannot answer even one of those questions you will not convict anyone anywhere in the US"

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Post by NW_DUBAHOLIC » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:07 pm

I think her father had something to do with it.
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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by Kodachrome » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:08 pm

pkay wrote:
Kodachrome wrote:
Did you even watch the trial? The prosecution had a strong case against her, the defense were the ones pulling the slut card. Their whole defense was basically "Casey anthony is a troubled liar who was abused by her father" (THERE is something that has no evidence). It was just playing the blame game the whole thing and it was a fucking circus.

My sister is a lawyer and texted me not guilty literally 2 seconds after the forensic anthropoligists testified "we do not know how she died" 3 of the PROSECUTIONS witnesses basically set her free.

You cannot convict in 2011 without forensics or at the very least cause of death to paint a vivid picture of how they died.

The experts painted doubt, the defense expounded on it, that is all that is required in the US.
Found evidence of human decomposition in the trunk of her car, the body was found with duct tape and a heart sticker over the mouth, Casey looked up how to chloroform someone some ridiculous amount of times (I think it was in the hundreds?), she didn't report the girl missing for 31 days, made up a kidnapping scenario for the police with people that didn't exist. Can you honestly tell me you believe she is not guilty?
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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by kingGhost » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:09 pm

i find it ridiculous that they didn't find her guilty of anything but the false information charges. i can (kind of) see the reasonable doubt for the first degree murder... but she also had a lot of other charges, including manslaughter and child abuse.
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Post by collige » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:12 pm

Those are not proof. I could google "how to murder a baby and cover its mouth with duct tape and hide the body" a thousand times, but that wouldn't make me a murderer.
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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by Kodachrome » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:15 pm

collige wrote:Those are not proof. I could google "how to murder a baby and cover its mouth with duct tape and hide the body" a thousand times, but that wouldn't make me a murderer.
Yeah and then your child goes missing, you don't report her missing for 31 days, You tell the police about a fictional babysitter that you think has the kid, the body is found near your home with duct tape over the mouth and you've been out partying and having fun. You continue to lie to the police and make up fake people to try to pass the blame on them.

Don't be an idiot.

EDIT: Also hope you never have kids.
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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by collige » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:19 pm

I could do all those things, but it doesn't mean I killed my baby. You don't convict people of murder without proof. End of discussion.
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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by pkay » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:19 pm

Kodachrome wrote:
pkay wrote:
Kodachrome wrote:
Did you even watch the trial? The prosecution had a strong case against her, the defense were the ones pulling the slut card. Their whole defense was basically "Casey anthony is a troubled liar who was abused by her father" (THERE is something that has no evidence). It was just playing the blame game the whole thing and it was a fucking circus.

My sister is a lawyer and texted me not guilty literally 2 seconds after the forensic anthropoligists testified "we do not know how she died" 3 of the PROSECUTIONS witnesses basically set her free.

You cannot convict in 2011 without forensics or at the very least cause of death to paint a vivid picture of how they died.

The experts painted doubt, the defense expounded on it, that is all that is required in the US.
Found evidence of human decomposition in the trunk of her car, the body was found with duct tape and a heart sticker over the mouth, Casey looked up how to chloroform someone some ridiculous amount of times (I think it was in the hundreds?), she didn't report the girl missing for 31 days, made up a kidnapping scenario for the police with people that didn't exist. Can you honestly tell me you believe she is not guilty?
her mother testified she's the one who searched chloroform, but hey semantics right?

anyways i havent stated whether i think shes guilty or not. simply that the prosecutors did not tackle basic, fundamental, points and in this day and age where people go into trials aware of the concept of reasonable doubt in a hollywood manner, you have to prove your case.

None of what you mentioned tells who, what, when, where, or why. Innocent until PROVEN guilty... not innocent until made to look like a douchebag and be suspected of murder.

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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by pkay » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:21 pm

Kodachrome wrote:
collige wrote:Those are not proof. I could google "how to murder a baby and cover its mouth with duct tape and hide the body" a thousand times, but that wouldn't make me a murderer.
Yeah and then your child goes missing, you don't report her missing for 31 days, You tell the police about a fictional babysitter that you think has the kid, the body is found near your home with duct tape over the mouth and you've been out partying and having fun. You continue to lie to the police and make up fake people to try to pass the blame on them.

Don't be an idiot.

EDIT: Also hope you never have kids.

you're kinda feeding into media hysteria and you're not able to separate that from how our legal system works. If you were accused of murder, innocent or guilty, you'd want the same due process.


The jury wasn't exposed to nancy grace bullshit on tv 24/7.... they were exposed to the evidence and the evidence alone. They have a perspective that you did not.

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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by Kodachrome » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:34 pm

pkay wrote:
Kodachrome wrote:
pkay wrote:
Kodachrome wrote:
Did you even watch the trial? The prosecution had a strong case against her, the defense were the ones pulling the slut card. Their whole defense was basically "Casey anthony is a troubled liar who was abused by her father" (THERE is something that has no evidence). It was just playing the blame game the whole thing and it was a fucking circus.

My sister is a lawyer and texted me not guilty literally 2 seconds after the forensic anthropoligists testified "we do not know how she died" 3 of the PROSECUTIONS witnesses basically set her free.

You cannot convict in 2011 without forensics or at the very least cause of death to paint a vivid picture of how they died.

The experts painted doubt, the defense expounded on it, that is all that is required in the US.
Found evidence of human decomposition in the trunk of her car, the body was found with duct tape and a heart sticker over the mouth, Casey looked up how to chloroform someone some ridiculous amount of times (I think it was in the hundreds?), she didn't report the girl missing for 31 days, made up a kidnapping scenario for the police with people that didn't exist. Can you honestly tell me you believe she is not guilty?
her mother testified she's the one who searched chloroform, but hey semantics right?
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That was thrown out she was found to be lying about that.
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Re: It's now legal to murder your child in Florida.

Post by pkay » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:39 pm

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That was thrown out she was found to be lying about that.

but when it gets thrown out nancy grace doesn't come out and bring on 3 guests to gossip about what this means, talk shit about the defense attorney and blah blah blah

Your viewpoint is not valid to the case because you are tainted. This is why we isolate our jurors.... so they do not become victim of gossip, suggestion, and mob mentality.

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Post by deadly_habit » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:04 pm

if the media circus hadn't devoted so much time to this, no one would give a fuck
seriously there was no evidence, but the public opinion via media had her pegged as guilty every newscast
how many trials do you know that appear on billboards ffs
justice is blind indeed

besides if you start allowing circumstantial evidence in trials, you might as well start allowing hearsay

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