Modulating your sub - tips and techniques

[blinx]

dude if you don't want answers don't ask

anyway, something that actually sounds neat is layering two sines and detuning them so you get a wobbly effect due to the phasing. but hey i'm sure you're gonna tell me now that detuning your sub is bad because it creates phasing

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[jrisreal]

what I've been trying lately is forwarding the sub to a send where I distort it and then hi-pass and bring it back in with the clean sine. It gives the sub some flavor and power and the sub can then still be heard by people without subwoofers.

then you can add some movement to the high end. Also you can turn down the higher frequencies so they are barely noticeable, but make the sub sound so much better.

[skimpi]

theres not much you can do with a pure sine sub, and your tune sounds pretty subby anyway, like mid-range is pretty low, like freq wise, its not a screamin bro bass, and you leaving the mid-range out on those bars, obviously means that you want just the pure sine, so why would you wanna do anything with it? sounds alright to me, plenty of tunes with just sine sub. but you could try like lfo to pitch like people have said, or change it up and use 808 sub for those bits, or like have short sine stabs with some snappy rhythm to it, try distorting the sub on a bus to make it warmer, so that you still have the pure sub, with some more harmonics slightly above, and then maybe lower it in the mix so its almost unoticable and then like modulate that bit.

[amphibian]

thanks for all the responses guys, think I've got quite a few things to work with now. At this point it seems like I'll probably send it to another channel, overdrive/saturate it a little and high-pass it and then modulate that channel.

In terms of why I would want to modulate a pure sine - I find just hitting on certain beats without any form of modulation gets a little dull after a while.

[ChadDub]

Try adding a phaser or chorus to it, or modulate the panning, while pitching it down. Just for one or two notes in the whole bassline. It kind of makes it reesey and it's tight.

[Mannyyyyy]

Try adding a phaser or chorus to it, or modulate the panning, while pitching it down. Just for one or two notes in the whole bassline. It kind of makes it reesey and it's tight.

chad man, that kills the sub, he wants sub, mostly the questions were answered with as much as he can do and he has tried he just wanted to see if there were other things but you can throw stereo stuff on a sub. its making like a fake sub

thats like going to a prostitute that doesnt have a vagina...


IT MAKES NO SENSE

[legend4ry]

monophonic legato is the way to go. give this kinda effect. Don't need much else - little bit of compression for character.

I think sub is all about how you play it.

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[3za]

Try adding a phaser or chorus to it, or modulate the panning, while pitching it down. Just for one or two notes in the whole bassline. It kind of makes it reesey and it's tight.

chad man, that kills the sub, he wants sub, mostly the questions were answered with as much as he can do and he has tried he just wanted to see if there were other things but you can throw stereo stuff on a sub. its making like a fake sub

thats like going to a prostitute that doesnt have a vagina...


IT MAKES NO SENSE

Your narrow mindedness makes no sense.

[Mannyyyyy]

when do you put stereo on low end?

I learned to always keep it mono so its clean

[legend4ry]

^ only when cutting to vinyl thats extremely important

BUT IT HAS TO BE SAID......


Mono subs = more punch in the club (tested by stereo and mono versions of subs on the same tune on a good rig)

[amphibian]

There's a reason why when creating basslines and you split the frequencies that you leave the bottom end alone (apart from a little compression). I found that keeping my low end bass in mono gave it multitudes more presence. 3za - it's not narrow-mindedness, simply a fact. You don't stereo-widen a sub.

[Mannyyyyy]

^ only when cutting to vinyl thats extremely important

BUT IT HAS TO BE SAID......


Mono subs = more punch in the club (tested by stereo and mono versions of subs on the same tune on a good rig)

so would'nt that be good practice to keep in mono and mostly move with glide to give movement, instead of losing power and putting stereo on it

[legend4ry]

No because if you restrict yourself to one constraint then you're instantly putting yourself in a box...

Yes it has more punch in a club but is that your angle for every track you're going to make?

I make lots of music just to put in playlists at home to listen too, some have stereo sub and some don't.

Sometimes its nice to layer a multi-band distortion on a sub, bring up the mid/high end and then put some stereo width on that mid/high end.. Its still part of the sub seeing as its one sound being pushed through a signal flow.

[3za]

when do you put stereo on low end?

I learned to always keep it mono so its clean

When ever I want to...

I also like to mixs it up abit with my ho's handjobs, blowjobs, footjobs, anal, armpitjobs, neckjobs, ect... I do what ever the fuck I want.

Still narrow mindedness in this thread, there are other styles of music were stereo subs are the norm.

[Mannyyyyy]

when do you put stereo on low end?

I learned to always keep it mono so its clean

When ever I want to...

I also like to mixs it up abit with my ho's handjobs, blowjobs, footjobs, anal, armpitjobs, neckjobs, ect... I do what ever the fuck I want.

Still narrow mindedness in this thread, there are other styles of music were stereo subs are the norm.

armpit jobs sound kinky

but i think the op wants to keep his punch, maybe he wants stereo and then i sounded like an idiot sure but im sure he wants to keep it mono

[3za]

No because if you restrict yourself to one constraint then you're instantly putting yourself in a box...

I like the way you send that one back at me

To say you can't do this, or that is narrow minded, FACT

[ChadDub]

Dude, putting phase on a sub for ONE BEAT will no weaken the whole track. It's called dynamics. You don't want just a straight sub blasting the whole track.

[jrisreal]

Dude, putting phase on a sub for ONE BEAT will no weaken the whole track. It's called dynamics. You don't want just a straight sub blasting the whole track.

thats true, although I would rather LFO the amplitude of the sub instead of phasing it...just for my conscience

[ChadDub]

You can do whatever you want, I'm just saying that that is ONE way of modulating your sub and making it interesting.

[jrisreal]

You can do whatever you want, I'm just saying that that is ONE way of modulating your sub and making it interesting.

true. but as far as sine waves, both do pretty much the same effect.