How many of you still listen to UKG?

sandeman · Post by **sandeman** » Fri May 18, 2007 4:04 pm

I'm prolly one of five in Chicago that has stayed with the two-step/UK Garage/Bassline House sound... and believe me, it's hard being this kool!

unlikely · Post by **unlikely** » Fri May 18, 2007 4:23 pm

every day!

UKG changed my life...

blackout · Post by **blackout** » Fri May 18, 2007 4:56 pm

Yup Im still lovin my UKG, Ive never liked any of the RnB refixes though urgghhhh

delendi · Post by **delendi** » Fri May 18, 2007 5:59 pm

Shonky wrote:
Delendi wrote:yessssssss bassline house. except none of the northerners i know call it that. they call it 2 step. where did us southerners go wrong? their scene sounds good and is thriving. ours sounds crap and isn't very big.

i don't think you could mistake 4/4 for funky house... even funky house sounds better than 4/4... and i am nooooot a fan of funky.

and yeh 2 step came from 4/4 in so much as 99.99% of non-classical music is 4/4. but in terms of '4/4' as a genre (with the stupidist name of all time) 2 step came first.
Not sure about that one tbh. Speed garage came before 2 step and that was 4/4. Sorta reverted back to 4/4 after 2 step. Wasn't known as 4/4 at the time but the blueprint was there (bit like El-B being dubstep before the term was coined). Ripgroove and Gunman were shitloads better than a lot of the new stuff though.

read what i said! basically ALL music we hear IS 4/4. but i'm talking about 4/4 as the NAME of a type of music, not a description of its rhythm. speed garage was called speed garage.

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Fri May 18, 2007 6:21 pm

All modern music is 4/4, that's the time signature for modern music yes, but 4/4 the genre means four to the floor ie all 4 beats of a bar are taken up with a kick drum, correct me if i'm wrong, I'm not trying to be a know it all but thats what I thought. Other time signatures are like medieval lute music or suttin..

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Fri May 18, 2007 6:34 pm

Delendi wrote:
Shonky wrote:
Delendi wrote:yessssssss bassline house. except none of the northerners i know call it that. they call it 2 step. where did us southerners go wrong? their scene sounds good and is thriving. ours sounds crap and isn't very big.

i don't think you could mistake 4/4 for funky house... even funky house sounds better than 4/4... and i am nooooot a fan of funky.

and yeh 2 step came from 4/4 in so much as 99.99% of non-classical music is 4/4. but in terms of '4/4' as a genre (with the stupidist name of all time) 2 step came first.
Not sure about that one tbh. Speed garage came before 2 step and that was 4/4. Sorta reverted back to 4/4 after 2 step. Wasn't known as 4/4 at the time but the blueprint was there (bit like El-B being dubstep before the term was coined). Ripgroove and Gunman were shitloads better than a lot of the new stuff though.
read what i said! basically ALL music we hear IS 4/4. but i'm talking about 4/4 as the NAME of a type of music, not a description of its rhythm. speed garage was called speed garage.

The 4/4 refers to the four kicks to the bar over four bar patterns (as far as I can gather - I've never seen an explanation tbh) as opposed to the time signature - in that way I think that essentially speed garage is pretty much indistinguishable from the modern 4/4 garage apart from the fact the newer stuff is faster (and IMO not as good). Same heavy bass, same house kicks, maybe slightly more organs, same sorta vocals bit faster but quite similar I think you'll agree.

So it has gone from what wasn't termed 4/4 at the time (but pretty much was) to the 4/4 we recognize now after an interlude in 2 step. I think the return to the house style was probably to win support from the house crowds when garage was disintegrating into controversy and plummeting record sales.

In the same way that Black Sabbath were essentially doom metal before doom metal was a term - ya get meh

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Fri May 18, 2007 7:35 pm

4/4 time signature allow for four beats to be in the bar tho, no?

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Fri May 18, 2007 7:41 pm

obIwan wrote:4/4 time signature allow for four beats to be in the bar tho, no?

Yeah, but I was talking about 4/4 as music rather than as time signature - it's the kick hitting on every beat. It is a fucking stupid term. Bit like drum and bass cause of course no other music features drums and bass at all. Country and western might as well be drum and bass

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Fri May 18, 2007 7:52 pm

Are you contending against me for biggest grumper title?

to that tho Genre titles in general are shit aren't they!

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Fri May 18, 2007 7:53 pm

obIwan wrote:Are you contending against me for biggest grumper title?

to that tho Genre titles in general are shit aren't they!

Get yo grump on,
Get yo grump on,
Get yo grump on,
Flicky flicky flicky

Yes. Do I win?

municiple · Post by **municiple** » Fri May 18, 2007 7:56 pm

Sandeman wrote:I'm prolly one of five in Chicago that has stayed with the two-step/UK Garage/Bassline House sound... and believe me, it's hard being this kool!

Really? There are 5 Chicagoans who are into 2 step garage?

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:01 pm

He's older and he knows best

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:03 pm

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:03 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:He's older and he knows best

You patronizing tnuc

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:07 pm

obIwan wrote:No because she actually says getcha,getcha,getcha,getcha, getcha
not flicky,flicky,flicky. Hislop. No way, they got rid of the rolling eyes smiley

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:10 pm

Shonky wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:He's older and he knows best
You patronizing tnuc

Sorry

and a bit of this

but, you are right about the 4-4 2 step ting.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:11 pm

obIwan wrote:
obIwan wrote:No because she actually says getcha,getcha,getcha,getcha, getcha
not flicky,flicky,flicky. Hislop. No way, they got rid of the rolling eyes smiley

She says flicky flicky somewhere I'm sure - I was just doing a radio edit

Yeah, where have those rolling eyes gone

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:12 pm

metalboxproducts wrote:
Shonky wrote:
metalboxproducts wrote:He's older and he knows best
You patronizing tnuc
Sorry and a bit of this but, you are right about the 4-4 2 step ting.

Excellent

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:13 pm

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:14 pm

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