SAMPLE PACK COMPETITION // DISCUSSION

[HAACK]

Also, just a heads up I will have the next competition running by August 15th, some new improvements will be underway and before I had a chance to make them I wanted to sort out what members felt about these questions:

First of all panel or no panel?

What do members feel about having track critiques in the rules and guidelines as part of submitting to the competitions?

How many votes would you like to have per track? I was feeling three votes per entry, that way users have their choice of top three.

Along with bragging rights, perhaps we could have actual prizes next time around, perhaps ones choice of digital release? Any other ideas for prizes?

[wub]

Also, just a heads up I will have the next competition running by August 15th, some new improvements will be underway and before I had a chance to make them I wanted to sort out what members felt about these questions:

First of all panel or no panel?

No panel.

What do members feel about having track critiques in the rules and guidelines as part of submitting to the competitions?

Not sure what you mean by track critiques - if people have to give a brief description of their track when submitting, then yes. If you mean people have to justify their vote, then no.

How many votes would you like to have per track? I was feeling three votes per entry, that way users have their choice of top three.

Thinking 3 votes per person would be ample. Would allow people to vote for their own, as well as rating their preferred out of the other options.

Along with bragging rights, perhaps we could have actual prizes next time around, perhaps ones choice of digital release? Any other ideas for prizes?

It'd be hard pressed to find a prize everyone wants - for example, a digital release would only be of use to producers who also happen to DJ.

[nowaysj]

I have a pretty strong feeling people get friends to vote for their tracks in dsfp comps. Think voting should be in the thread, publicly.

3 votes is cool.

Cool with a prize. Should be like a lock of burial's hair or something.

[VirtualMark]

i think a panel is a bad idea, as it leaves it down to just a few peoples personal taste, whereas it should be a LOT of peoples personal taste that decides it.

I don't really know what you mean by track critiques?

Three votes is fine, then we don't get to just vote for our own tune.

As for an actual prize, hmm. An all expenses paid visit to the caribbean would be nice.

If not, i'll settle just for being king of DSF for a month, and you all have to call me 'your majesty' and do as i say.

[HAACK]

Nice one for gettin this set up as a seperate discussion, could we get this thread bumped?

[HAACK]

By critiques I mean that entries should submit their opinions (what they liked, what they didn't, imporvements, etc.) about the track in addition to voting, that way producers get some critical feedback

Also Caribbean trip would be sound, but maybe on 50?

Please spread this post around, im goin to shoot an email to everyone that entered and get some more opinions.

[unwind]

First of all panel or no panel?

I don't think a panel would be a good idea, it seems a lot fairer that the winner be decided by votes from everyone, rather than the opinions of a few.

What do members feel about having track critiques in the rules and guidelines as part of submitting to the competitions?

This could work; it would definately make it a lot harder for people to get others to vote for them. Not sure about it though in terms of the reception it will get from participants.

How many votes would you like to have per track? I was feeling three votes per entry, that way users have their choice of top three.

Yeah I think 3 votes is perfect, that way I think you'll get a much better representation of the winning track.

Along with bragging rights, perhaps we could have actual prizes next time around, perhaps ones choice of digital release? Any other ideas for prizes?

Prizes could be a good idea. It would make it more interesting to people who haven't tried it before. I'm afraid I'm at a loss for ideas of what the prize(s) could be though.

[nowaysj]

Prize - plastic kazoo. Yo.

[hudson]

I have a pretty strong feeling people get friends to vote for their tracks in dsfp comps. Think voting should be in the thread, publicly.

This is true, I remember in the 30th one Jrisreal put his track on Soundcloud and got his friends to vote for him

I think the voting should be in smaller rounds, kinda like the 24hr contest was, because it's hard to find time to listen to every track in the same sitting before voting.

Critiques are a good idea too, imo.

[Sparxy]

I don't feel there should be much changed from the last comp, the only thing flawed was the voting. Which is easily fixed assuming the tracks are released to the public on time and the voting is kept within DSF.
In terms of prizes well, I have a label, I might be up for putting out the winner as a release but there would be a few contractual things we would need to discuss beforehand. Let me know if you'd like to talk about that.

[wub]

I don't feel there should be much changed from the last comp, the only thing flawed was the voting. Which is easily fixed assuming the tracks are released to the public on time and the voting is kept within DSF.
In terms of prizes well, I have a label, I might be up for putting out the winner as a release but there would be a few contractual things we would need to discuss beforehand. Let me know if you'd like to talk about that.

Having a release on your record label as the prize would make you ineligible for entering, you do realise that? Conflict of interests and all.

[Gusto]

I don't feel there should be much changed from the last comp, the only thing flawed was the voting. Which is easily fixed assuming the tracks are released to the public on time and the voting is kept within DSF.
In terms of prizes well, I have a label, I might be up for putting out the winner as a release but there would be a few contractual things we would need to discuss beforehand. Let me know if you'd like to talk about that.

Having a release on your record label as the prize would make you ineligible for entering, you do realise that? Conflict of interests and all.

It's not really a 'conflict' of interests, they're just coincidental interests.

[tavravlavish]

should be like a lock of burial's hair or something.

[tavravlavish]

then we don't get to just vote for our own tune.

I never vote for my own tune

[tavravlavish]

I think we should have always done voting in thread. I think it would be a good idea that you would have to post your top three faves, and descriptions of why you chose them. I miss getting feedback for doing these, it was my prize! As for prizes if we are gonna done that we definitely need to get the voting situation straight, prizes would give these sally's an even bigger reason to be wack as funk.

ANYBODY WHO DOES THAT SHOOT IS A

[VirtualMark]

I don't feel there should be much changed from the last comp, the only thing flawed was the voting. Which is easily fixed assuming the tracks are released to the public on time and the voting is kept within DSF.
In terms of prizes well, I have a label, I might be up for putting out the winner as a release but there would be a few contractual things we would need to discuss beforehand. Let me know if you'd like to talk about that.

Having a release on your record label as the prize would make you ineligible for entering, you do realise that? Conflict of interests and all.

I don't agree with that, as his track would still need to be voted the winner. And if he has his own label he can release his own tunes when he likes anyway, so what difference does it make to enter it into a comp?


As far as track critiques go, sounds like an interesting idea. Although i wonder if it may put people off voting, as it is already a time consuming process to listen to a load of tunes.

[tavravlavish]

I don't feel there should be much changed from the last comp, the only thing flawed was the voting. Which is easily fixed assuming the tracks are released to the public on time and the voting is kept within DSF.
In terms of prizes well, I have a label, I might be up for putting out the winner as a release but there would be a few contractual things we would need to discuss beforehand. Let me know if you'd like to talk about that.

Having a release on your record label as the prize would make you ineligible for entering, you do realise that? Conflict of interests and all.

I don't agree with that, as his track would still need to be voted the winner. And if he has his own label he can release his own tunes when he likes anyway, so what difference does it make to enter it into a comp?


As far as track critiques go, sounds like an interesting idea. Although i wonder if it may put people off voting, as it is already a time consuming process to listen to a load of tunes.

they should already be listening to all of them anyway?

If people can't be bother to put down why they liked a few song they shouldn't vote anyways. fuck em.

[jrisreal]

No panel.

Voting should be 3 votes, no more no less IMO. that way, people can't just vote for their own and have to vote for the others they liked best.

critique should be encouraged, but not enforced.

prize: new studio monitors! nah how about some money or somethin

[AllNightDayDream]

yeah giving feedback on tunes should definitely be encouraged (I always do it), but I don't think it should be a rule.

I would be all for a panel IF we could find more high profile people from diverse backgrounds (not JUST dubstep), like somewhat established artists and label owners.

In thread voting is a good idea, but i'm worried some people will get butt-hurt and try to disqualify votes from new members.

Prize should stay the same: an audience and a handful of feedback

[HAACK]

Great, thanks for all the feedback everyone.