seckle wrote:All of you would be thinking different if that was your sofa store burned to the ground, or your electronics store pilfered. Its got fuck all to do with politics when you've lost your entire source of income because sone kids needed flatscreens and xboxes.
Victims of consumer capitalism.
You would be too, if I robbed you. Guess there's no empathy left huh?
Didn't know that in the 1600's, rioting forced King Charles the 1st to abandon London. Heavy...
...well, it got worse for him- he had his head cut off! hasn't always been a monarchy here.
yeah, plenty of riots in London, the best one:
Riots in 1743 against Gin Taxes and other legislation to control the Gin Craze, principally the Gin Act 1736; rioting was fuelled by consumption of the drink itself
Didn't know that in the 1600's, rioting forced King Charles the 1st to abandon London. Heavy...
...well, it got worse for him- he had his head cut off! hasn't always been a monarchy here.
yeah, plenty of riots in London, the best one:
Riots in 1743 against Gin Taxes and other legislation to control the Gin Craze, principally the Gin Act 1736; rioting was fuelled by consumption of the drink itself
We used to be excellent at rioting. Read a pretty exhaustive History of London (Peter Ackroyd) this year and the stuff on the Gordon Riots is amazing. That's the last time I reckon Britons rioted for essentially "no reason" (no political motive, I mean). They burned down Newgate Prison* and The Clink by London Bridge. That was much larger numbers than this though... tens of thousands.
*leading to one of my favourite bits of human behaviour. A lot of the prisoners returned to the prison once it was safe and just curled up on the ground in the ashes of their cell even though the place had been cleared of guards, locks and walls... it was their home and someone had burnt it the fuck down. They didn't want freeing. Odd!
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nowaysj wrote:I wholeheartedly believe that Michael Brown's mother and father killed him.
hugh wrote:nah I would imagine most people would agree that video was terribly embarassing.
everything supermassive raver does is embarrassing - that's the point
I don't understand, are you supposed to think 'that was shit' but then chuckle in some post ironic fashion or something? Genuinely puzzled by that video
what is of value and wisdom for one man seems nonsense to another.
hugh wrote:nah I would imagine most people would agree that video was terribly embarassing.
everything supermassive raver does is embarrassing - that's the point
I don't understand, are you supposed to think 'that was shit' but then chuckle in some post ironic fashion or something? Genuinely puzzled by that video
i'm not sure what it's about either - he just does it to be strange i think
How come the rioters are being so quickly & (relatively) harshly dealt with, when the financial oligarchy, whose actions have been far more damaging to society, still escape legal censure?
This haste & lack of proper consideration in the dealing with the disgruntled may cater to the clammering fearful but how does it foster confidence in the fairness of the justice system?
Disempowered masses go down swiftly...avaricious elite escape responsibility, yet again.
It is redolent of the solution found in C18th England for the dispossessed & unemployed (as wealth began concentrating in the hands of industrialists) who turned to petty crime...send em as slaves to the USA & Australia. Not so easy this time.
Is British democracy more concerned with stability than equity & justice?
sd5 wrote:How come the rioters are being so quickly & (relatively) harshly dealt with, when the financial oligarchy, whose actions have been far more damaging to society, still escape legal censure?
This haste & lack of proper consideration in the dealing with the disgruntled may cater to the clammering fearful but how does it foster confidence in the fairness of the justice system?
Disempowered masses go down swiftly...avaricious elite escape responsibility, yet again.
It is redolent of the solution found in C18th England for the dispossessed & unemployed (as wealth began concentrating in the hands of industrialists) who turned to petty crime...send em as slaves to the USA & Australia. Not so easy this time.
Is British democracy more concerned with stability than equity & justice?
OMG. The rioting has actually been severe enough to cause sd5 to break from conventional phrasing! It truly has much greater repercussions than anything that has gone on before!
sd5 wrote:How come the rioters are being so quickly & (relatively) harshly dealt with, when the financial oligarchy, whose actions have been far more damaging to society, still escape legal censure?
This haste & lack of proper consideration in the dealing with the disgruntled may cater to the clammering fearful but how does it foster confidence in the fairness of the justice system?
Disempowered masses go down swiftly...avaricious elite escape responsibility, yet again.
It is redolent of the solution found in C18th England for the dispossessed & unemployed (as wealth began concentrating in the hands of industrialists) who turned to petty crime...send em as slaves to the USA & Australia. Not so easy this time.
Is British democracy more concerned with stability than equity & justice?
OMG. The rioting has actually been severe enough to cause sd5 to break from conventional phrasing! It truly has much greater repercussions than anything that has gone on before!
Anyone watched the Live "Debate" on C4? Some right proper twats in that, no wonder everything's shit. Also, kinda a waste to call it a debate when no one was allowed to debate anything because they didn't have enough time! Some good points got stated though.