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Re: 5 Reasons Why American Riots Will Be The Worst In The Wo

Post by Mr Hyde » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:58 pm

magma wrote:Fair... I figured your comment was regarding the police response like Mr Hyde did. Apologies!
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Post by particle-jim » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:05 pm

Helix [Delay] wrote:
magma wrote:Fair... I figured your comment was regarding the police response like Mr Hyde did. Apologies!
tbf there should have been more police presence to stop looting, because I have absolutely no respect for looters
it was too widespread for that to be practical
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Post by Mr Hyde » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:06 pm

test recordings wrote: I saw one video of the BBC where an elderly West Indian gentleman talking about his son and grandson being picked on by the police before the riots but the reporter just wasn't interested and kept trying to make him talk about what he thought of the riot itself - in the end he just got pissed off and told her to 'have some respect for an' old West Indian negro and stop trying to make out he was a rioter' :? Unfortunately, it seems even the BBC don't dare possibly looking like they support anyone that doesn't think the rioters is just about 'criminality'...
Darcus Howe knows what he's doing, he is a professional writer and journalist himself, not just BBC having a go at a random old black man on the street.....thought it a bit shitty for him to be throwing in the age and race thing when she dared to ask if he has been involved in riots before (although she was being a knob too).

But yeah, BBC seemed to generally take the view of no support for rioters, and police not heavy enough....didn't seem very neutral.

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Re: 5 Reasons Why American Riots Will Be The Worst In The Wo

Post by seckle » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:11 pm

The bbc always take a heavily tory side. I don't think anyone can forget that newsnight with the wheelchair student. Probably the most bias interview i've seen this year.

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Post by helix » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:26 pm

seckle wrote:The bbc always take a heavily tory side. I don't think anyone can forget that newsnight with the wheelchair student. Probably the most bias interview i've seen this year.
that shit hurt 2 watch
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Post by helix » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:27 pm

since its clear ur goverment needs reform, which side would u take/


a more statist big government situation


or


mor indivdual rites
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i no mine needs reform 2
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Post by magma » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:04 pm

seckle wrote:The bbc always take a heavily tory side.
Genuine ROFL.

You guys really don't know shit.

The BBC is normally getting a pasting from the Tory press for being too Liberal/Left leaning... it very rarely gets it in the opposite direction. Tbh, they're pretty balanced, but they would certainly take the "official" line - if the government is Tory, then the official line is Tory I guess... they would've been Labour up until last year. The Liberal/Left LOVE the Beeb generally.

But still, I doubt any of you will forget that couple of minutes of footage you once saw on the Internet.

*HEADDESK*

I hope this was just trollage. :oops:
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Post by helix » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:13 pm

magma wrote:
seckle wrote:The bbc always take a heavily tory side.
Genuine ROFL.

You guys really don't know shit.

The BBC is normally getting a pasting from the Tory press for being too Liberal/Left leaning... it very rarely gets it in the opposite direction. Tbh, they're pretty balanced, but they would certainly take the "official" line - if the government is Tory, then the official line is Tory I guess... they would've been Labour up until last year. The Liberal/Left LOVE the Beeb generally.

But still, I doubt any of you will forget that couple of minutes of footage you once saw on the Internet.

*HEADDESK*

I hope this was just trollage. :oops:
nah cus its seckle

hes ded srs.


(also 4 the record i new that the bbc is libral usualy but sinc its a mater of ppl fiting the state their gna b on the states side u no)
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Post by seckle » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:08 pm

magma wrote:
seckle wrote:The bbc always take a heavily tory side.
Genuine ROFL.

You guys really don't know shit.

The BBC is normally getting a pasting from the Tory press for being too Liberal/Left leaning... it very rarely gets it in the opposite direction. Tbh, they're pretty balanced, but they would certainly take the "official" line - if the government is Tory, then the official line is Tory I guess... they would've been Labour up until last year. The Liberal/Left LOVE the Beeb generally.

But still, I doubt any of you will forget that couple of minutes of footage you once saw on the Internet.

*HEADDESK*

I hope this was just trollage. :oops:
Let me fill you in on some things.....We don't get the bbc via youtube clips. We have bbc tv in america, newsnight, all your tv shows, etc. We also get live House Of Commons debates on cspan TV. The telly has everything else. Come down off your "*headdesk* americans" antagonizing.

The BBC is generally a mouth piece for the tory ( we call it neo-con) diaspora. Sure its liberal at times, but in both these riots and the student demo's earlier this year...the anchors and their interviewing spin a tory bent bias.

http://www.thetelly.net/channels.cfm?.rand=2574491
http://www.bbcamerica.com
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary ... of+commons

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Post by jugo » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:02 pm

seckle wrote:
magma wrote:
seckle wrote:The bbc always take a heavily tory side.
Genuine ROFL.

You guys really don't know shit.

The BBC is normally getting a pasting from the Tory press for being too Liberal/Left leaning... it very rarely gets it in the opposite direction. Tbh, they're pretty balanced, but they would certainly take the "official" line - if the government is Tory, then the official line is Tory I guess... they would've been Labour up until last year. The Liberal/Left LOVE the Beeb generally.

But still, I doubt any of you will forget that couple of minutes of footage you once saw on the Internet.

*HEADDESK*

I hope this was just trollage. :oops:

Let me fill you in on some things.....We don't get the bbc via youtube clips. We have bbc tv in america, newsnight, all your tv shows, etc. We also get live House Of Commons debates on cspan TV. The telly has everything else. Come down off your "*headdesk* americans" antagonizing.

The BBC is generally a mouth piece for the tory ( we call it neo-con) diaspora. Sure its liberal at times, but in both these riots and the student demo's earlier this year...the anchors and their interviewing spin a tory bent bias.

http://www.thetelly.net/channels.cfm?.rand=2574491
http://www.bbcamerica.com
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary ... of+commons
you're both arguing the same thing really, but using culturally specific terms which is causing confusion.
as an outsider i just want to pour a bit of oil on troubled waters here.

as far as bias goes, the bbc spins the establishment line, which is conservative (with a small 'c' = not tory).
politically the bbc is Liberal, which is why Concervatives (capital 'C' = tories) and Labour politicians always get pissed off with it.

so you're both right!

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Post by magma » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:00 pm

seckle wrote:
magma wrote:
seckle wrote:The bbc always take a heavily tory side.
Genuine ROFL.

You guys really don't know shit.

The BBC is normally getting a pasting from the Tory press for being too Liberal/Left leaning... it very rarely gets it in the opposite direction. Tbh, they're pretty balanced, but they would certainly take the "official" line - if the government is Tory, then the official line is Tory I guess... they would've been Labour up until last year. The Liberal/Left LOVE the Beeb generally.

But still, I doubt any of you will forget that couple of minutes of footage you once saw on the Internet.

*HEADDESK*

I hope this was just trollage. :oops:
Let me fill you in on some things.....We don't get the bbc via youtube clips. We have bbc tv in america, newsnight, all your tv shows, etc. We also get live House Of Commons debates on cspan TV. The telly has everything else. Come down off your "*headdesk* americans" antagonizing.

The BBC is generally a mouth piece for the tory ( we call it neo-con) diaspora. Sure its liberal at times, but in both these riots and the student demo's earlier this year...the anchors and their interviewing spin a tory bent bias.

http://www.thetelly.net/channels.cfm?.rand=2574491
http://www.bbcamerica.com
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary ... of+commons
The BBC doesn't have a party bias so the word Tory is the problem here. The Tories are a political party (it's like calling the Republicans the GOP, I guess - a nickname.. actually, quite an insulting one but it's been accepted). I guess you're mixing up Tory/Conservative with conservative (small c). It tends to tow the 'official' line unless it's obviously false, but it's a mouthpiece for facts.. it's not allowed to have an opinion. It's also run by human beings so chose to work for the Beeb over commercial stations where they might make more money - a lot of Beeb journos actually tend to be a bit lefty (and definitely a bit liberal, which makes it a problem for Labour sometimes too) when you catch them on non-BBC business which is why it often cops flack from the right. It's also, essentially, a socialist institution. It's a PART of the left and most of it's increases in size/dominance have happened under Labour governments - all the talk since the Conservatives have been in power is to reduce it's size.

Either way, it's misleading to think that conservative and Tory mean the same thing. The BBC most definitely doesn't have a Tory bias, even if it comes across as 'conservative' at times. It's not Conservative or Tory in any shape or form.

Edit: Basically Jugo's right.
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Post by firky » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:37 pm

magma wrote:
seckle wrote:The bbc always take a heavily tory side.
Genuine ROFL.
The BBC is very biased towards the center right. I would not go insofar as to say they're "heavily tory" but they're certainly center right / new lab / tory lite. Especially when it comes to Israel and Palestine. But at least they recognise Palestine as a country...

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/46947 ... e-failures

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Post by jugo » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:52 pm

firky wrote:
magma wrote:
seckle wrote:The bbc always take a heavily tory side.
Genuine ROFL.
The BBC is very biased towards the center right. I would not go insofar as to say they're "heavily tory" but they're certainly center right / new lab / tory lite. Especially when it comes to Israel and Palestine. But at least they recognise Palestine as a country...

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/46947 ... e-failures

http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate ... mic-louise
you're using a tory mp who complains about the bbc's leftist bias against israel to show how they're biased to the right? :corntard:

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Post by raboonthebaboon » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:56 am

yadda yadda yadda tory labour left right blah blah blah

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raboonthebaboon wrote:yadda yadda yadda tory labour left right blah blah blah

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Post by test_recordings » Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:29 pm

Mr Hyde wrote:
test recordings wrote: I saw one video of the BBC where an elderly West Indian gentleman talking about his son and grandson being picked on by the police before the riots but the reporter just wasn't interested and kept trying to make him talk about what he thought of the riot itself - in the end he just got pissed off and told her to 'have some respect for an' old West Indian negro and stop trying to make out he was a rioter' :? Unfortunately, it seems even the BBC don't dare possibly looking like they support anyone that doesn't think the rioters is just about 'criminality'...
Darcus Howe knows what he's doing, he is a professional writer and journalist himself, not just BBC having a go at a random old black man on the street.....thought it a bit shitty for him to be throwing in the age and race thing when she dared to ask if he has been involved in riots before (although she was being a knob too).

But yeah, BBC seemed to generally take the view of no support for rioters, and police not heavy enough....didn't seem very neutral.
Ahh, didn't know Darcus Howe was already known somewhat
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Post by firky » Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:15 pm

jugo wrote:
firky wrote:
magma wrote:
seckle wrote:The bbc always take a heavily tory side.
Genuine ROFL.
The BBC is very biased towards the center right. I would not go insofar as to say they're "heavily tory" but they're certainly center right / new lab / tory lite. Especially when it comes to Israel and Palestine. But at least they recognise Palestine as a country...

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/46947 ... e-failures

http://www.thejc.com/comment-and-debate ... mic-louise
you're using a tory mp who complains about the bbc's leftist bias against israel to show how they're biased to the right? :corntard:
Yep. I should have made clear that even though I think the BBC is slightly right of the center, at least they and tories alike still recognise the country of Palestine, unlike that dutty little Fox. Not the best example or coherently put for that matter but I am :dunce:
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Post by pkay » Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:19 pm

magma wrote:(it's like calling the Republicans the GOP, I guess - a nickname.. actually, quite an insulting one but it's been accepted)
GOP is insulting? It means Grand Old Party.

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