Finding it near impossible to release a track

Lectric · Post by **Lectric** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:04 am

hey guys so this is really just a question geared towards the members of dsf who are signed to labels.

heres my dilemma:

i have this track i finished (in my sig) and ive been told by many listeners as well as producers ( i dont show my tracks to friends for obv reasons) that it is a track of high enough quality to be released and that they would buy it if it were released.
ive sent it off to 10 record labels in the past month.

5 never replied, and 5 said they werent looking for anyone new/ they werent interested.

does everyone have the same luck or did you find youre search relatively easy. its been kinda discouraging i must say

cheers

Teknicyde · Post by **Teknicyde** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:49 am

When your ready, it happens.

Heartless · Post by **Heartless** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:10 am

How many gigs have you played? How many SoundCloud plays do you have? How many Facebook fans? How many followers on Twitter? How many downloads? How many blogs have posted about you?

Make a name for yourself. A label ain't gonna take a risk on every unknown artist that emails them an MP3.

Depone · Post by **Depone** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:17 am

I also recommmend making connections through aim and facebook as being socially interactive with artists and labels increase the chances a lot!!!

Gurnumsbug · Post by **Gurnumsbug** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:18 am

It's all about hype man! I'm not signed and I probably wont be for a long time(it doesn't even matter)
Make a name for yourself first and wait...soon enough you'll you have labels contacting you

Random question regarding Teknicyde and the first track in your sig...did you send that off to get it mastered or did you do it yourself?

1point5 · Post by **1point5** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:22 am

Depone wrote:I also recommmend making connections through aim and facebook as being socially interactive with artists and labels increase the chances a lot!!!

yeah that's definitely a good idea, especially with AIM

Love the tune though mate, I would agree about it being release worthy

Cher in its purest Lloyd

hah epic sig!

brettheaslewood · Post by **brettheaslewood** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:02 am

just had a listen, and the track's ok. it doesn't really stick out to me personally.
the lfo on the sub kinda grinds.
i like your drum sounds, there is some faint white noise (or sommit like that) that seems to drone through the whole piece though.

Thats my opinion on the track.

Heartless wrote:How many gigs have you played?

have you played your track out yet? do you see people dancing? does it sound big on a system?
these test need to be applied before sending off to anyone IMO

if i was gonna do anything, i'd go back to the drawing board. get at least 5-10 ideas down before you start sending anything to labels.

FuzionDubstep · Post by **FuzionDubstep** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:09 am

getting a release on a track isn't all its cracked up to be, unless you have tens/hundreds of thousands of fans to reach out to the money is going to be next to nothing, best thing is to release things for free until you have a large audience..

Teknicyde · Post by **Teknicyde** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:12 am

FuzionDubstep wrote:getting a release on a track isn't all its cracked up to be, unless you have tens/hundreds of thousands of fans to reach out to the money is going to be next to nothing, best thing is to release things for free until you have a large audience..

Not true at all, promoters like the looks of releases, other labels, listeners, ect.

In the modern day a release is an aesthetic though, your right about the money bit. Still, I like random stuff hitting my paypal all the time too, even if its not paying the rent completely.

My biggest advice op, dont release anything your gonna feel like you 'could have done better' on. Be 110 percent on your game and then debut with a bang.

hutyluty · Post by **hutyluty** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:15 am

i think you need to find a guy who's going to be brutally honest with you to critique your tracks before you send them to labels

also, are you sending it to the right labels, not setting your sights too high?

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:21 am

Don't do what I did and release shit tracks (not saying your music is shit but my first releases compared to now are, you'll probably feel the same in a few years) and then have to wait for everyone to forget about that poor release to bring another out.

network, get DJs playing your music, get a buzz about you..

Start a facebook page so people who are fans of your music can like you, connect with you. Start a twitter, start talking to other artists - getting a big artist to retweet a tweet you said about/to them is a great way to get a few people checking you out. Leave some feedback on up and comings people you like on soundcloud; someone might click you! (obviously don't spam). Just get yourself OUT there; I am writing an article about this at the moment for my blog actually.

BE WARNED THOUGH.

Don't go around spamming people to like it, don't mislead a label into thinking your music will sell because of what your facebook, soundcloud and twitter is saying; sure market yourself but do it naturally; you'll have more respect that way! Bigger labels will take a risk and you won't be sitting there on shit unknown labels for years.

A classic example of what I mean is Depone; when he started he would always be around; on here, on soundcloud, on aim, sent tunes to people he knew would play it; as his tunes got better he sent it to bigger DJs - people listened to his music, they liked it and he has now got some great signings.

What I am trying to say is, don't rush it; have your name around in good places so people can hear it (posting on other forums apart from production here, for instance is great publicity if you're saying something worth while) and the fans will come! Send music to DJs (don't aim to high straight away) all while improving your sound.

Growing as an artist as well as a person who people respect is the only way to make it in the industry and not be forgotten in 6 months time these days.

FACT.

P.s as someone who is starting a label; if you sent me your track in your sig, my reply would go something like...

Thanks for your interest in my label, I just listened to your track and I would say its good but not great. I am having issues with the mix down, it sounds really flat - the kind of flat what can't be fixed by mastering; this makes things hard as i'll have to pay/mix down the track myself and slows down the whole process. There isn't enough in the track to "grab" people either, it feels a little thin! I love the stripped down sound but there needs to be more texture and "fullness" in thetrack.

Work on mix downs and feel free to send me anything new.

__________ · Post by **__________** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:31 am

"5 never replied, and 5 said they werent looking for anyone new/ they werent interested."

Sounds like you sent it to 5 of the wrong labels, and 5 who aren't looking for anyone new or aren't interested.
You need to send your tunes to the right label!

We get sent loads of demos for Dubliminal, most of which are completely the wrong sound for our label. Good quality music for the most part, just the wrong vibe. Also, being ignored doesn't mean your tracks are shit, it probably means whoever listened to your demo is a busy man!

brettheaslewood · Post by **brettheaslewood** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:50 am

legend4ry wrote: I am writing an article about this at the moment for my bog actually.

is this gonna be sent out to all our toilets, would express my opinions in this thread http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=209517

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:59 am

brettheaslewood wrote:
legend4ry wrote: I am writing an article about this at the moment for my bog actually.
is this gonna be sent out to all our toilets, would express my opinions in this thread http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=209517

You've proper got it in for me today don't ya. Be on your guard sir, I will find a way to get you back..

brettheaslewood · Post by **brettheaslewood** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:07 pm

legend4ry wrote:
brettheaslewood wrote:
legend4ry wrote: I am writing an article about this at the moment for my bog actually.
is this gonna be sent out to all our toilets, would express my opinions in this thread http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=209517
You've proper got it in for me today don't ya. Be on your guard sir, I will find a way to get you back..

To be quite honest, i wouldn't mind reading an article by yourself whilst on the throne.
I often loose myself to tapeop

Lectric · Post by **Lectric** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:02 pm

FuzionDubstep wrote:getting a release on a track isn't all its cracked up to be, unless you have tens/hundreds of thousands of fans to reach out to the money is going to be next to nothing, best thing is to release things for free until you have a large audience..

Heartless wrote:How many gigs have you played? How many SoundCloud plays do you have? How many Facebook fans? How many followers on Twitter? How many downloads? How many blogs have posted about you?

Make a name for yourself. A label ain't gonna take a risk on every unknown artist that emails them an MP3.

Not in it for money whatsoever. I just want people to hear my shit. I also want something on vinyl in the future

I dont dj. as well where i live dubstep is unheard of. there are no djs or shows here for dubstep, except a skrillex show every few months

there is no such thing as clubs where the community comes out to support local talent and where djs actually take demos. thats why its hard for me to get music out here. im notn sure how im going to be able to contact djs online as im not sure where i would find them and i dont really know any djs.

i just started a facebook page, feel free to like it if you enjoyed my music: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lectric/137689629655021

i want to see how the facebook page does before i start a twitter. i dont think ill get any more than 50 likes on facebook realistically.

i dont have any downloads because i dont think a label would want to sign a track that has already been taken for free

it seems pretty obvious now that i should get more involved with social media. i made a facebook page, but now what? how will people find out about it? i feel like itll just sit there for months getting a like here and there and i may get a few, but im not sure how that will help. how do i get my name out there?!?!

hutyluty · Post by **hutyluty** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:33 pm

go out tonight and paint LECTRIC on the biggest public building you can find

FuzionDubstep · Post by **FuzionDubstep** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:49 pm

Lectric wrote:
FuzionDubstep wrote:getting a release on a track isn't all its cracked up to be, unless you have tens/hundreds of thousands of fans to reach out to the money is going to be next to nothing, best thing is to release things for free until you have a large audience..

Heartless wrote:How many gigs have you played? How many SoundCloud plays do you have? How many Facebook fans? How many followers on Twitter? How many downloads? How many blogs have posted about you?

Make a name for yourself. A label ain't gonna take a risk on every unknown artist that emails them an MP3.
Not in it for money whatsoever. I just want people to hear my shit. I also want something on vinyl in the future

I dont dj. as well where i live dubstep is unheard of. there are no djs or shows here for dubstep, except a skrillex show every few months there is no such thing as clubs where the community comes out to support local talent and where djs actually take demos. thats why its hard for me to get music out here. im notn sure how im going to be able to contact djs online as im not sure where i would find them and i dont really know any djs.

i just started a facebook page, feel free to like it if you enjoyed my music: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lectric/137689629655021

i want to see how the facebook page does before i start a twitter. i dont think ill get any more than 50 likes on facebook realistically.

i dont have any downloads because i dont think a label would want to sign a track that has already been taken for free

it seems pretty obvious now that i should get more involved with social media. i made a facebook page, but now what? how will people find out about it? i feel like itll just sit there for months getting a like here and there and i may get a few, but im not sure how that will help. how do i get my name out there?!?!

Trust me just getting a release doesn't guarantee you're going to get plays etc. a free download would go down better for now or an EP.. ask some youtube channels to promote your stuff and stick your facebook/soundcloud/twitter in the description

It does seem that way, I made my facebook page in January and up until march I had like 80 likes and now I nearly have 2,000 and I haven't even released one track and the ones for free download have only been a couple so its not to hard

blinx · Post by **blinx** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:03 pm

10 small emails and your saying its impossible to get a release... HAHAHAHAHAHAH grow up and quit feeling so god damn entitled to this man. The world is full of good/ok producers and reasilitcly they are probalby better then you (not saying im better i am probably worse but i also am not complaining about 10 emails not getting me a release either in fact 2 years in and im still not ready to say hey sign my shit to a label lol), step your game up homie... start your own agenda/label/movement and you will get attention when you deserve it. Or go and hangout with tommy lee and get a release that way pull a skrillex, but i much prefer the pretty lights business model. He gives the music away for your email and any donation you may want to make to him for his music..... hes headlining and touring like mad crazy now and owns his own label lol all without a proper "release" or record deal from what i know of. But watever jsut my 2 cents of protensious bullshit.

oprs · Post by **oprs** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:06 pm

blinx wrote:10 small emails and your saying its impossible to get a release... HAHAHAHAHAHAH grow up and quit feeling so god damn entitled to this man. The world is full of good/ok producers and reasilitcly they are probalby better then you (not saying im better i am probably worse but i also am not complaining about 10 emails not getting me a release either in fact 2 years in and im still not ready to say hey sign my shit to a label lol), step your game up homie... start your own agenda/label/movement and you will get attention when you deserve it. Or go and hangout with tommy lee and get a release that way pull a skrillex, but i much prefer the pretty lights business model. He gives the music away for your email and any donation you may want to make to him for his music..... hes headlining and touring like mad crazy now and owns his own label lol all without a proper "release" or record deal from what i know of. But watever jsut my 2 cents of protensious bullshit.

damn, that came off like a complete tnuc

goodjob.

keep it up lectric, everything comes at its own time. keep doing what you do

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