Did the Spice Girls ruin Garage?

[Soiree]

I've read "last night a DJ saved my life", an amazing book about the history of the Disc Jock.
What I find troubling is where it leaves off... GARAGE... how can something so popular, the dominating sound of UK Club culture in early 90's just totally fall off into oblivion? Who's responsible for the demise of Garage? WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED?



I hope an updated version of "last night a DJ saved my life" is in the works with a chapter on Dubstep!

[cityzen]

*Late 90's

What happened?


and
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... chase.html
etc, etc.

[prisoner]

what did the spice girls have to do with UKG? (besides i'm guessing have some terrible remixes done....)

i would imagine it didn't touch on UKG because it was published in 1999 and most likely written during the previous couple of years. UKG was really only beginning to blossom then.

but, what happened to UKG?

got too full of itself, commercialized. frustrated producers birthed Grime & dubstep. and has found new life in both, and recently (the last 3-4 years) into UKFunky.

i'd say it's still pretty healthy if you don't look at it in a vacuum.

[fractal]

lol@ so solid crew

man got a rapier

[Soiree]

*** late 90's, early 2,000's
-Respect to El-B

We'll I obviously wasn't there, but the idea that a commercially popular UK Dance 5-piece all star playboy bunnies gone power rangers invalidating a microcosm of dance music history, just perturbs me to no end.

it sounds like slowed, watered down, bubble gum Garage...


I wonder where that slick sexy production went.

[dird]

:nyan:

[Duffman]

Tune!!

not even joking

[3za]

This is as close as I can relate the syphilis girls to garage.


No individual/group have ever ruined a genre of music anyway.

Edit: I blame Mala.

[fractal]

lets post some lame garage!

[Kodachrome]

^^ is that zomby?

[Genevieve]

I think 'time' ruined garage.

It's like people are so scared of their favorite music going away and having to pinpoint an exact reason to be able to accept what happened. Music comes and goes, some longer than other. Garage operated in a limited niche. Yes, it was fun, but at one point it was just jungle basslines, r&b vocals and swingy drums. Only takes so much time for people to get sick of that very predictable formula.

[j_one]

jungle basslines, r&b vocals and swingy drums

[fractal]

About to say the same, lol! For me dance music dies when it stops being raw and becomes polished and formulated if tHat makes sense. High production values kind of kill it for me, lol

[Soulstep]

I'd say so solid did after they topped the chart with 21 seconds t-t-t, it kind of disappeared after that

[clifford_-]

it didnt fall off at all. listen to ny outer london pirate station, theyre always playing garage. see the posters at any given set of traffic lights, advertising "garage nation" or normally just DJ EZ in big letters lol.

It aint gone anywhere, the only place it fell off was in the charts, and thats a good ting imo because it leaves it to the people that are still passionate about it.

[magma]

Garage still happens.

I've still got a soft spot for both of those So Solid Tunes.

[badger]

It aint gone anywhere, the only place it fell off was in the charts, and thats a good ting imo because it leaves it to the people that are still passionate about it.

it's still about yes, but it's not being made really any more. you still get some garagey dubstep being made obviously and the odd straight up garage tune.... and "future garage"

garage just got too popular and died under the weight of it's own success, and gang culture getting garage into the news for all the wrong reasons didn't help (same with grime). like people have mentioned garage evolved into other things like grime and dubstep, and that didn't necessarily have to kill off garage but a lot of the inner garage circle got together and tried to stop it, decided that big DJs wouldn't play certain producers tunes etc and basically try to freeze it out and "keep the sound pure" (sound familiar? ). embrace change or get left in the dirt and guess what happened? interestingly a lot of the people from that old sound are the same ones who disappeared for years and came back with UK funky

aside from this tune being a marker point in the evolution of grime it also highlights some of the tensions going on in garage when it was being made, and wiley clearly thinks it's time to split off and "go that way"

goodbye to the man who don't like me
goodbye to the woman who don't like me
goodbye to the fingers pointing at me
goodbye to the promoters that hate me
goodbye to the people that's hassling me

goodbye to garage

and OP if you think that spice girls tune has anything to do with garage you're sorely mistaken. there's nothing even approaching a garage beat in that

I think 'time' ruined garage.

this basically

[bright maroon]

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[dubloke]

lol@ so solid crew

man got a rapier

so solid were hard!!

[dubloke]

there tunes always had some next time signature though, 21 seconds is impossible to mix well