iZotope Ozone 4! AMAZING FOR MASTERING!

[Zuzz]

The Ozone demo runs without any restrictions for 10 days just in case anyone is interested.

[Grimenoceros]

I've been using Ozone 4 to do self-masters for a few months now, slowly learning how to use it better and better, but I'm afraid to move away from it simply because I don't know what combination of separate plugins would be superior to Ozone when combined. Like what's one of the best software limiters for self-masters? Stereo-wideners? Etc. etc. I ask because I feel almost like it would be counterproductive to use the same compressor on the master as I do on the mix channels. That probably doesn't make any sense but alas, that's how I think.

I usually mix everything without anything on the master, then bounce final copies out and put them in another project file with only Ozone 4 on the entire thing and just load in the audio file and master that way, barely any CPU clutter.

But yes, I like Ozone but NEVER use the presets. I would probably move on if I had a go to of at least the following: mastering-stage limiter, mastering-EQ, and mastering stereo-enhancer/exciter, MAYBE some form of light compressing plugin for masters as well. Anyone know of any good ones?

[Manic Harmonic]

I've been using Ozone 4 to do self-masters for a few months now, slowly learning how to use it better and better, but I'm afraid to move away from it simply because I don't know what combination of separate plugins would be superior to Ozone when combined. Like what's one of the best software limiters for self-masters? Stereo-wideners? Etc. etc. I ask because I feel almost like it would be counterproductive to use the same compressor on the master as I do on the mix channels. That probably doesn't make any sense but alas, that's how I think.

I usually mix everything without anything on the master, then bounce final copies out and put them in another project file with only Ozone 4 on the entire thing and just load in the audio file and master that way, barely any CPU clutter.

But yes, I like Ozone but NEVER use the presets. I would probably move on if I had a go to of at least the following: mastering-stage limiter, mastering-EQ, and mastering stereo-enhancer/exciter, MAYBE some form of light compressing plugin for masters as well. Anyone know of any good ones?

I don't see any reason to move away from it.. I use it exclusively for mastering. You could use a combination of separate plugins, but you would probably want a mastering suite or some plugins that are designed to work together. That's one of the benefits of Ozone.

[Thebender]

some really uneducated posts in here. if u learn to use it you can get some pretty pro results.Eprom did a write up on ozone and how he uses it. if you read it and follow his instructions you would be amazed.

[Manic Harmonic]

some really uneducated posts in here. if u learn to use it you can get some pretty pro results.Eprom did a write up on ozone and how he uses it. if you read it and follow his instructions you would be amazed.

you got a link by any chance?

[RandoRando]

some really uneducated posts in here. if u learn to use it you can get some pretty pro results.Eprom did a write up on ozone and how he uses it. if you read it and follow his instructions you would be amazed.

you got a link by any chance?

[deafblindmusic]

some really uneducated posts in here. if u learn to use it you can get some pretty pro results.Eprom did a write up on ozone and how he uses it. if you read it and follow his instructions you would be amazed.

you got a link by any chance?

http://glitchhopforum.com/glitch-hop-pr ... -t789.html

The one thing I WILL say about Ozone, it's incredibly powerful, if you use it judiciously, and I think the biggest single feature I am completely in love with at the moment is the MID/SIDE processing.

[Ldizzy]

Ms processing is really underrated amongst un and coming dance beatheads...

can help u make shit sound like it comes from outside of your speakers...

i like the way ozone lets you vizualize what it is that you do.. and the multiband aspect of it!

have to say that DrMs is the best ms plugin ive come across so far tho

[Manic Harmonic]

by any chance, do you guys have any links that you find particularly informative as far as m/s techniques? The only thing I've really ever used it for is pads, and even then I hardly ever do that. coming from the outside of my speakers sounds very appealing. and I mean that in a non-sexual way.

[Ldizzy]

Try to read about the Mid side microphone recording technique. Its basic/intermediate recording knowledge thatll give u a better understanding of mono vs stereo... its where the ms from plugins come from i believe.

itll give you a good understanding of what all of these plugins are emulating (if i could say such thing)

basically.. ms recording consists of taking two mono microphones... easiest example is with cardioid and figure 8... and then do the following :

- use one microphone to record the direct sound from the source. proper mic'ing would imply ud take the time to find a balanced spot where ud get the most out of ur instruments sound... but that would prolly be in front of ur instrument.. (height /angle vary)

- use the figure 8 microphone perpendicularly, to get very little amount of the direct signal, but instead get the sound reverberations comin off the walls in the room, the ambiance of the room.

so all together, ud have something kinda like a 3 circle pattern with one front, two sides... and none in the back. like a T but thats made out of circles... that would allow u to run two separate signals to ur recording device ... and mix them to taste.. one with the info comin from the side of the instrument (room and a bit of a different part of the direct sound from the instrument (whatever part of its sound that is projected to the sides/diagonal) and one with the direct sound. way more flexible then having a stereo signal that might be blurrier/less focused then a mono signal (sometimes) .. but with the width and extra info of stereo... (sense of space)

In the plugin world, i believe they use a pretty simple equation to isolate the difference between left and right channel (prolly cancelation). so u end up getting what's the difference between left and right (the stereo info) (sides) the mono (center) info, again, separated. That way u can as well tweak either of these two to fit ur needs and find a balance between them.

thats as far as i can go with ms and helping u... i tend to use a lot of presets whenever im looking for stereo placement.. and then tweak to taste...

if any of this is non exact please tell me !!

[zerbaman]

The presets on it are awful.
Engineering it yourself produces satisfying results. I always use it, and maximus on all of my self masters

[Ldizzy]

i was referring to presets on my go to ms plugins.. not on the whole mastering thing. and yes they are dog bollox sweat.

[zerbaman]

I wasn't responding to you, just a general opinion on it man

[Manic Harmonic]

Try to read about the Mid side microphone recording technique. Its basic/intermediate recording knowledge thatll give u a better understanding of mono vs stereo... its where the ms from plugins come from i believe.

itll give you a good understanding of what all of these plugins are emulating (if i could say such thing)

basically.. ms recording consists of taking two mono microphones... easiest example is with cardioid and figure 8... and then do the following :

- use one microphone to record the direct sound from the source. proper mic'ing would imply ud take the time to find a balanced spot where ud get the most out of ur instruments sound... but that would prolly be in front of ur instrument.. (height /angle vary)

- use the figure 8 microphone perpendicularly, to get very little amount of the direct signal, but instead get the sound reverberations comin off the walls in the room, the ambiance of the room.

so all together, ud have something kinda like a 3 circle pattern with one front, two sides... and none in the back. like a T but thats made out of circles... that would allow u to run two separate signals to ur recording device ... and mix them to taste.. one with the info comin from the side of the instrument (room and a bit of a different part of the direct sound from the instrument (whatever part of its sound that is projected to the sides/diagonal) and one with the direct sound. way more flexible then having a stereo signal that might be blurrier/less focused then a mono signal (sometimes) .. but with the width and extra info of stereo... (sense of space)

In the plugin world, i believe they use a pretty simple equation to isolate the difference between left and right channel (prolly cancelation). so u end up getting what's the difference between left and right (the stereo info) (sides) the mono (center) info, again, separated. That way u can as well tweak either of these two to fit ur needs and find a balance between them.

thats as far as i can go with ms and helping u... i tend to use a lot of presets whenever im looking for stereo placement.. and then tweak to taste...

if any of this is non exact please tell me !!

yeah, i understand what mid side processing is for the most part, but i was looking more for some cool techniques to use it... maybe the best thing is to just start playing around but it would be cool to have some pointers. the only time i've really used it is for eq on pads and stuff. i did some google searches but only found general descriptions of what it is.

[deafblindmusic]

yeah, i understand what mid side processing is for the most part, but i was looking more for some cool techniques to use it... maybe the best thing is to just start playing around but it would be cool to have some pointers. the only time i've really used it is for eq on pads and stuff. i did some google searches but only found general descriptions of what it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kShJB6EF8PY

SHAZAM! Biggest winner for me, using the stereo imaging, pluck out the upper tops, and selectively widen, and effectively mono the subs/low end. I was avoiding the "mastering" reverb because it always seemed to muddy up the mix, but now that I'm using mid/side I've found it has a place again, when used very subtly.

[deafblindmusic]

Staying on the iZotope thread, check out Alloy : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=565HRHVGih8

Looks pretty impressive and complementary to Ozone 4

[blinx]

That eprom write up/rough guide just turned my use of Ozone 4 upside down and after applying his technique to my newest remix and im def. glad to know the new tricks


and since im home today heres a ozone guide:
http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/o ... gGuide.PDF

Then Danny Byrd speaking on ozone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6l1OVVc2K0

Dubspot Tutorial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z2mMJT4Iqo

[hifi]

i use ozone as a quick master on all my tracks before i upload to soundcloud or send out for promo.

[jrisreal]

I've tried ozone before and it's pretty decent. Wouldn't use it myself because I prefer other plugins that I have.

[Angel]

When I started using ozone it was all presets.
I would remove ozone and just get shocked by what a bad eq job I had done.
That`s where I stopped using ozone and instead learned from it.
When I got to the point that all ozone was doing was maybe adding volume, I realized I had outgrown it.
In many cases now I find it ruins my sound.
It just takes everything and hard clips it.

yeh i noticed that it took ALOT of dynamics and power out of my reese bass in my last dnb track, so dev
so yeh i guess ur right, i shal start learning myself soon

You do know that you can solo the bass frequencies (in your bass frequency band of your choosing) and set the exact level of bass you want in your song? Let me guess you were using presets?