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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by amphibian » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:49 pm

@boman - too much reverb on that bass imho, and it really needs a lot more to flesh out the track. Also, considering how low your kick and snare are sitting, it doesn't quite fit the bass. I'd try giving some top-end to your snare (layer it with a clap or other samples) and the kick, I'd swap out for something that has a bit more hitting higher up, around the 100-120 range with a lot of nice harmonics. Your bass gets quite boring after a while, try working with another bass patch as well, and swap them in and out (try and go for minimum 3-4 bass patches in a tune). It also needs more weight - so on top of the patch you already have, duplicate that channel and change the patch slightly with different wave forms, pan it left/right and you'll see it thicken up :) Sub seems a little quiet also. Positives - the note progression on the bass works quite well, and it's quite clean, sounds like it's been eq'd right. You just need to add a lot more to the tune to really give it substance :)
@budspencertron - thank you my friend :) I had thought about using more vocals, but everytime I threw it in it just felt as though it was getting repetitive. It's not finished yet, but very close :)
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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:59 pm

@amphibian did you try to let it follow your melody? i mean your track is is superb mixing wise but a real catchy vocal clip would make it awesome. maybe try thinking outside the box with this one like taking some nice vocalclip and use it more like a groove element rather than a real vocal?

i just throw this in to see some opinions cause ,i dunno, i like it but i feel something is missing here and there
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Re: WIPs/unfinished tunes for feedback * no finished tunes *

Post by amphibian » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:12 pm

@budspencertron - actually the tune was build up around the vocals, not the other way around. haha. I hate finding something to try and fit a tune you've already written. Imho that's the wrong way to go about it. However, I think I know what you're saying about the vocals - almost like glitching it up and playing it as a melody? Not a bad idea for the 2nd drop tbh :)

In regards to your tune - your intro is rather drawn out - it needs some more elements to build into that first beat. The claps also get a little old after a while, because they lack any real variation. Bass modulation and variation is actually really nice. Really like the use of phaser (i assume it's phaser) you got going. Note progression is really good also. Try adding another synth about an octave along that drives the track, possibly panning it left or right, as a starting point. Sub changes at certain points (with no bass) can help to create a feeling of space while still feeling "filled". The switch up at 1.50 or so is really nice. It just needs some extra stabs/melodies to compliment the bass. Listening to it further, I'd probably drop the clap completely. The metallic snare also doesn't fit the timbre of your bass. Try going for a snare with a lot of white noise layered :)
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Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:33 pm

@amphibian yeah dont get to glitchy there cause then some people come and say skrillex! haha just kidding; but if you have build the tune around the actual vocal you know your scales and stuff so it makes it more easy to bring them in the tune.
thanks for pointing out some issues on my tune, but i am a fan of more real sounds so you think adding a wood stick or stuff would help avoiding the white noise layering?
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Post by amphibian » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:44 pm

BudSpencertron wrote:@amphibian yeah dont get to glitchy there cause then some people come and say skrillex! haha just kidding; but if you have build the tune around the actual vocal you know your scales and stuff so it makes it more easy to bring them in the tune.
thanks for pointing out some issues on my tune, but i am a fan of more real sounds so you think adding a wood stick or stuff would help avoiding the white noise layering?
Nope, not really. lol. You could try, but I don't think it would fit - your bass is taking up the frequencies where you want your snare to hit. Even if you EQ'd it well, the snare wouldn't sit that well. You want it sitting on top of your bass, not amongst it. The reason why guys like kryptic minds use woodblocks and stuff - is because their basses are so low (octave 0/1), it just works. Trying to use a wood block with basses that have a lot of top-end harmonic content is difficult. Give it a go, it's your tune afterall - I just don't think think it will work as you expect. Nothing wrong with using more synthetic samples if they fit, which is really what using samples in a tune is all about.
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Post by paradigm001 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:35 am

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Heres a tune that I started one way and never finished. Is it worth finishing those basses? I have the same tune in my sig with a completelly different bass. But I like this idea too! I wanna do both.
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Post by amphibian » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:51 am

paradigm001 wrote:Soundcloud

Heres a tune that I started one way and never finished. Is it worth finishing those basses? I have the same tune in my sig with a completelly different bass. But I like this idea too! I wanna do both.
Read the rules, feedback first.

Think I'm just going to ignore people that do this from now on.
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Post by paradigm001 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:26 am

I thought I would be forgiven because I left 30 feedback responses in the Dubs and Tunes section. Ill have a listen now.
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Post by paradigm001 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:37 am

@c4ctopus I like the intro. The kick sounds a little flat to me, the hats are a nice addition. The bass is ok but it sounds like one of the patches off of Massive.
The piano adds a lot. You have a nice groove building there. All in all I like the tune for what it is.



@kidstrange, the intro is nice and glitch like almost. Good melody and strings.
I only wish you had an alternate B section that came before the first. Its a nice song alltogether.



@Akkep, there seems to be something about your kick that doesnt sit right, it sounds a little hollow, if you layered that it would be massive. You have some low bass going on. The drum kit sound good.
You even add some more. If you changed direction of your part that would be really interesting. Or if you had another sample of those creepy strings. The song seems to go on and on.
I would concentrate on bringing out more of what you have so it actually says something instead of just being in the background as this BASS.
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Post by paradigm001 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:39 am

paradigm001 wrote:Soundcloud

Heres a tune that I started one way and never finished. Is it worth finishing those basses? I have the same tune in my sig with a completelly different bass. But I like this idea too! I wanna do both.


Just wanna know if this alternate version is worth persuing. You can listen to the other finished one in my signature. This one has different bass grooves and sounds. I do like the idea alot though.
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Post by mikeyp » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:44 am

@ Lysergical - really diggin it man, would love to hear that when it's done. nothing negative to say about it

@ kidstrange - I could fall asleep to this and I mean it in a good way :W:

@c4ctopus - definitely accomplished the laid back feel. reverb on the snare is just right imo. and i'm a fan of piano sounds so big ups!



started this today. i've been working on it all day. and i'm absolutely stuck on which direction I should take it in. i've gone forward with something and deleted it so many times already. and the bar or two before the drop needs some cleaning but i'm stuck there too. help please :)
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Post by Hoborg » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:50 am

@kidstrange: this is gorgeous, wow. I would say the mix sounds a little crowded around 500hz but otherwise I love everything about this, not much to say

@Voodeedoo: what's really great about this is the rhythm and the cuts, that's a really fat, dancey bassline you've got going there, but your actual bass sounds are too distorted and cheap sounding. whatever synth you're using, try layering some more waveforms and modulating with not just LFO's but envelopes, etc to get a more layered and thick sound.

@5yntaX-3rr0R: the mix is a mess, muddy and all over the place, gotta tame those frequencies. its a good song and I like the bassline you've hooked up to it but the bass tones are too frenetic and not very musical, they all sound kind of thin and digital. try getting a more balanced bass sound and see if that helps you figure out the mix

@mikeyp: I like the sounds and the melody on this, I would try to cut in some vocal samples, maybe pitch them up a bit, and replace that snare with a more crisp sample with a lot of high end and a little plate reverb, would be magic


this is something I was working on tonight, kind of a soulful track but I tried to structure it like strict traditional dubstep. appreciate any suggestions

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Post by Electric_Head » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:35 am

paradigm001 wrote:I thought I would be forgiven because I left 30 feedback responses in the Dubs and Tunes section. Ill have a listen now.
That`s probably why no-one is giving you feedback.
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Post by stinjee » Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:56 pm

the feedback below is the best i can do at the moment as i am listening on a laptop with shit speakers but ive tried to be a constructve as i can.

@voodeedoo, Like the tune overall but i prefer the part 18seconds in, maybe do some more variations of this section. The first set of bars sounds like a cross between fidget house and dubstep imho which isnt maybe a bad thing as it would help the choon move and not be boring.
From what i can tell on these speakers the mid bass sounds pretty good, however as these speakers are this crap i cant really comment on the sub bass.

@c4topus, The chilled vibe is definatly achieved here. I feel there is too much reverb on this for my liking and the wobble gets a little boring as the track progresses. I also feel the wobble sounds a little thin. The piano helps to keep things interesting. even though this is a chilled tune i feel it could still benefit with a drop early on.

@5yntax

I think you need to cut some of the high frequencys on the lead bass on this one, its sound quite thin and digital too.
The overall track is a bit muddy and the drums dont come through enough for me. I would also drop thye synth aswell, maybe not all together but it seems a bit relentless. I also prefer the 2nd drop to the first.
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I think this has got some potential one mixed and eq'ed let me hear a finished version?

I got a couple of tracks i could do with some feedback on. They are not quite finshed yet as i think the arrangement on both could be a bit better.

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Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:07 pm

@amphibian thanks for taking time to respond appreciate it :Q:

@paradgimn001 thanks for feedback to your tune i really like the melodies and first drop with the deep sub but the wobble take away some of the quality the pads and melodies transfer it could be a really great tune if you keep it more mellow und chilled

@stinjee "mega drive" you got something going man really feel the grooves you build; this reversed reece between the wobbles could do with some wideness maybe and some reverb or delay, like the vocals too dunno maybe play around with the wavetable of the bass synth to keep the listener
"9ate7" you got the grooves and vocals on point haha i just dont feel the mixdown right know the main bass feels nice and heavy but the adding sounds could do with more bottom end i think but both tune could turn out really great :W:

@hoborg love the motown vocals, i think i used the same vocal in one of my millions of tunes haha; like the groove and melody of the bass ,maybe tiny bit more sub but vocals and bass work together in my opinion
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Post by paradigm001 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:59 pm

Electric_Head wrote:
paradigm001 wrote:I thought I would be forgiven because I left 30 feedback responses in the Dubs and Tunes section. Ill have a listen now.
That`s probably why no-one is giving you feedback.
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Post by E-T-F » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:04 pm

Hoborg - nice pleasant synth melody think the drums could do with spicing up abit they seem flat throughout the song, the bass at 1:13 is sick very smooth, liking the vocals aswell they suit. major improvements would be the drums, use some different samples/layer etc.

Mikeyp - beautiful pads, i like them, hats are nice too. as far as what direction you should take it in, do not go the filth route, as was almost shitting in anticipation for the utter glory of a liquid/smooth as fuck reese bass drop, not the one you have already that is wank, this is a very strong intro!!

Budspencertron - this is fantastic maybe pump up the snare but thats a very little fault this is chill as fuckkkkk and that arp synth is fucking glorious :h:

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Post by mikeyp » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:05 pm

@ hoborg - snare is fixed, thank you. i'll look into some vocals once I get a good base down and see which direction this thing is headed. love the ones you have in your track btw. where are they from?

@ etf - haha thank you. i've never even made a reese lol, but i'm doing some reading right now. will see how it goes, even though I did get something working with what I had already and I think I like it. we'll see!
& your tune had me bouncin in my chair haha, got a little predictable but that's not necessarily a bad thing if it's what you're going for

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Post by Hoborg » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:22 pm

@mikeyp: thanks man, they're actually from a pack someone posted on here called "Amazing Snares" which lives up to its name, I use it all the time but I just did a search and couldn't find the post

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Post by BOMAN » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:08 pm

@ mikeyp i really like melody and all, but maybe change snare?
@BudSpencertron nice tune, but maybe the intro is a little empty, add something, and maybe give the snare a little more punch?
@ E-T-F maybe add some more variation?



Anyway, i made some changes in my tune, and added some ideas, most of them prob wont stay, we'll see. I want you honest opinions, what can i change/add, whats good or bad with it etc. as i said before, im just here to learn, so give me all you got, be harsh, i just wanna get better!

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