A message to samplers worldwide

[ketamine]

I don't get why you'd sue for sampling. That's like suing for using a piano or something, no? Maybe not in a legal sense, but at least in a moral sense...

Covers even. Why the fuck are people so fucking slimey?

It's all about money. Everyone wants their share.

Also the fact that: the people suing are usually washed-up has-been nobodies desperate for lime light and cash, having spent the last 15 years angrily brooding in a casino somewhere that their career’s over… Then an EDM producer (i.e. “A Nobody”) uses their sh*t and makes something cooler, its just as much Ego as Greed.

[seckle]

shadow had to pull tracks off his new ep because of the $ amounts of these lawsuits. they don't go after you for a couple of grand, they want six-seven zeros in damages.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 59182.html
http://djshadow.com/news/im-excited-ep- ... navailable

[LA_Boxers]

so what happens if you bootleg something then? im pretty clueless towards this, bootlegging a tune, not sampling it, just doing your own version of the same tune without using any of the original samples/instruments....

I think aslong as your not making money off of it, it isnt much of an issue. Dont quote me on that tho.

Like Widowmaker's Skream and Vex'd bootys.

[hubb]

The way the info was passed along makes it seem as if it was the discrepancies in the way the case was handled, that made this case more than the judicial system taking on a new approach in dealing with copyrights.
But ofcourse its unfortunate and lets hope that wasn't a paradigm in music lawsuits.

[hubb]

Also this case was only tried at citycourt and is now going to national court.
I think the misunderstandings will be fixed and I think the defendants will have to prove that, that misspelled contract was made up for the sake of capital fraud and not just mispelled making it non-valid.

[Teknicyde]

so what happens if you bootleg something then? im pretty clueless towards this, bootlegging a tune, not sampling it, just doing your own version of the same tune without using any of the original samples/instruments....

I think aslong as your not making money off of it, it isnt much of an issue. Dont quote me on that tho.

Like Widowmaker's Skream and Vex'd bootys.

Skream n Vex'd - EDM artists themselves and alot less likely to get offended or power hungry after stuff like that ; if someone bootlegged one of my tunes, Id probably be a bit flattered, not want to sue them.

But thats not the same attitude non-edm artists and legal workers hold.

[droogie]

i suppose this is why its good to release things on white label.... sure it costs a little bit more, but atleast you dont have to worry (so much) about getting done over for the use of a tiny sample

Came here to post this,everything should be released on white label
Also i bet the others are sweating if he's reading this,guy uses so many obscure movie quotes.

[Pedro Sánchez]

This is also why Burial is so undercover.

[zerbaman]

I'm pretty sure they could still sue him if they wanted to.

At least none of them have attention spans to sit and go through his tunes to see if they got "jack'd"

[ketamine]

I'm pretty sure they could still sue him if they wanted to.

At least none of them have attention spans to sit and go through his tunes to see if they got "jack'd"

How can you sue someone who doesn't exist.

Ghost Hardware.

[zerbaman]

He does exist.
His name is William Bevan. He lives in south London. There's a picture of his face on his myspace.

[zerbaman]

Sounds like we're talking 'bout jesus lol

[icarous]

sampling music is benifical to the orignal artist, so many remixes have resulted in my purchaing the orignal track. Remixes feed revenue to the orgnial artist.

This is the product of short sightedness on the behalf of the orignal artist

[zerbaman]

Does anyone else want to click on icarous' sig?

[ketamine]

This is also why Burial is so undercover.

Jokes aside, I believe this is exactly why it’s taking so long to release new material. He’s too big now. Kode9 either doesn’t see the price of clearing samples exceeding sales revenue (and has chosen not to release) or, equally as likely, Burial has used so many d*mn samples it’s taking the clearing agency forever to track down all the parties evolved and get this sh*t sorted.

[wobbles]

what about horsepower productions

[JensMadsen]

Now that we are on the subject, have you guys ever heard of people being sued for using drum-breaks? If so, which ones? Would really like to know an answer to this one...

[-[2]DAY_-]

so what happens if you bootleg something then? im pretty clueless towards this, bootlegging a tune, not sampling it, just doing your own version of the same tune without using any of the original samples/instruments....

if you re-produce a copyrighted work from scratch, you're steering clear of rights to the master recording, but are infringing on the composition rights. In an EDM scene, that's ... strange, full of grey areas, kind of confusing, but i'm nearly sure if the track came out sounding enough like the original, and were released, it would be an unlicensed re-recording of a registered composition.

The thing about composition is its defined by words and melody, or in the absence of words, by melody + chord change... which can be less relevant to a composition in these scenes.... copying someone's sound design would be more ripping off someone's sound, but would be entirely more legal, in many cases. If your nailing both the sounds and the melody, plus the same groove or feel, that's no longer grey area. It's violation

[JensMadsen]

Now that we are on the subject, have you guys ever heard of people being sued for using drum-breaks? If so, which ones? Would really like to know an answer to this one...

Anyone?

[seckle]

Now that we are on the subject, have you guys ever heard of people being sued for using drum-breaks? If so, which ones? Would really like to know an answer to this one...

The Meters, have always gone after people if its a tune that makes it in the top10 charts. Especially all the different edits of Meterman....from 2:30 on.


Hey last minute too