jon ad wrote:I know it's wishful thinking, but I just wish people would quit talking about these artist that they feel degrade Dubstep, and talk about artists they like, or a generality of those who they don't. That is what I like best about JB's statement. In not naming names, he isn't just avoiding a flame war. He's avoiding giving more light to these producers who do not deserve it. These threads serve to bump those artists as much as beatport positioning or anything else.
There are a ton of producers making great, real stuff, right at this moment, and they get hardly any of the publicity they deserve, partially due to this argument being the top of the thread much of the time . How about when the crap stuff becomes a subject of discussion, throw out a shout about a tune by DFRNT, Pacheko, Pistons, or Kuoyah, just off the top of my head.
Begone wrote:Funny how people talk about his "pre-album stuff" when I Never Learnt To Share and Limit To Your Love were on his first Electronic Explorations mix in May 2009, before Air & Lack Thereof was even released.
I still can't believe how some ignorant people keep posting the same shit in this thread over and over?
If you think James Blake isn't dubstep (or wasn't at any point in his career), obviously you aren't (weren't) much involved. Of course, that isn't a blame or offence, it can not be helped. But don't get mingled up in discussions like this with your ignorant assumptions and superfluous remarks.
I'd say he's been a lot more involved than the likes of Jakwob or DJ Fresh...
It's the classic case of people defending something that has changed drastically over time. The stuff getting the most exposure in the states is lacking the dubwise/junglist mentality the uk stuff has. It's more akin to electro house (which i'm surprised isn't suffering the same identity crisis being neither electro nor house) I used to get really defensive in the past over brostep. Over it at this point tbh. People are going to like what they like. I cringe when I hear the word "dubstep" these days, because I know about 39 times out of 40 it's going to sound like a poltergeist infested toolshed. Let em have it. It's just a word. The people who got the ball rolling originally are exploring new directions music journalists haven't coined a term for yet.
yeah i really don't get the analogies to "this is like _____'s opinion on (unrelated genre)" .... clearly this guy ins't completely separate and apart from the genre/scene. Quite the opposite.... those types of analogies are clever and funny only when they have at least an ounce of truth to them.
also i cannot understand how anyone is not keen on coki... but alright.
Undrig wrote:I cringe when I hear the word "dubstep" these days, because I know about 39 times out of 40 it's going to sound like a poltergeist infested toolshed. Let em have it. It's just a word. The people who got the ball rolling originally are exploring new directions music journalists haven't coined a term for yet.
I think what Dubstep really needs is a greater sense of ANARCHY.
It's not designed to be toyed with by those who want to allow capital to rule it's content.
It's better used in the hands of the "ANARCHITECTS" constructing new beats and polyrhythms.
THE CONCEPT OF DUB NEEDS TO BE OPERATIONAL< IF THAT SENTIMENT IS LOST< SO IS THE CAUSE!
IN ONE HAND WE PAY TRIBUTE TO THE OG MASTERS OF THE CRAFT, IN THE OTHER MAKE NEW SOUNDSCAPES THAT BREAK WAVES INTO THE FUTURE, using sounds/techniques that could've only be made in the present!
thekuku wrote:Nah never taking the piss. Not on DSF at least
after going to baselaced at cable on friday and seeing coki, i agree with blake, im not an expert on the scene but u kinda feel its doing the whole electro thing, i.e burying itself in baselines...and losing what originally made it interesting and innovating...
mikey-bizzle-09 wrote:Who fuckin cares what James Blake thinks to me he comes off as a pretentious arsehole??? Plus his tunes are faggy and boring! Music for bed wetter's!!!
Says the guy that prefers Datsik to Coki. Just sayin'.
Errrm i don't prefer Datsik to Coki! Dno where u got that one from! I'm not keen on either tbh
errr no coki is so over rated!
Datsik wins this one for me
Dunno how to quote the whole thing from another thread, but you get the idea.
Dont mean to dig up the past but if you think Coki is 'so over rated' you're hardly gonna like JB or care what he has to say on the state of the scene.
Well i may have said it but like i said im not keen on either! Plus it doesn't change the fact that i think James Blake is shite!!
Soiree wrote:ITS SAD, BUT I KNOW WAY TOO MANY WOMEN WHO CAN'T SEEM TO GET ENOUGH BROSTEP.
I PLAYED THEM 'WUT' THEY SAID IT WAS TOO MELLOW
i hear ya
seems that its now fasionable to be a female into brostep
althought, it seems to be all the girls that go to town and spend half the night in the bathroom doing lines off the toilet seats
Laszlo wrote:and yay, upon imparting his knowledge to his fellow Ninjas, Nevalo spoke wisely that when aggrieved by a woman thou shalt put it in her bum.
Soiree wrote:ITS SAD, BUT I KNOW WAY TOO MANY WOMEN WHO CAN'T SEEM TO GET ENOUGH BROSTEP.
I PLAYED THEM 'WUT' THEY SAID IT WAS TOO MELLOW
i hear ya
seems that its now fasionable to be a female into brostep
althought, it seems to be all the girls that go to town and spend half the night in the bathroom doing lines off the toilet seats
YES! THE FEMALE BROSTEP DJs DON'T HELP NETHER!
we dont get em here, thank god
Laszlo wrote:and yay, upon imparting his knowledge to his fellow Ninjas, Nevalo spoke wisely that when aggrieved by a woman thou shalt put it in her bum.
BUT I KNOW WAY TOO MANY WOMEN WHO CAN'T SEEM TO GET ENOUGH BROSTEP.
