Understanding Sub Bass

[AndreiStephen]

Okay, so making tracks is enjoyable for me, until I plug it into my subwoofer and I realize that there really is no bass.

Brostep or not, I want there to be some sort of bass playing under my "midrange cack" and I'm not really sure how to go about throwing it in there.

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Take a look at this track ^ it is my most recent production and I really don't feel much bass under all the stuff going on, even if I plug in my subwoofer and turn the bass up.

How would one go about throwing a sub in with this type of music? What frequencies should my sub bass fill? HALP ME D';

APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP <3

[lloydy]

Sub bass should sit under your kik,should be lowest freq of them all,my subs tend to hit around 45-75hz depending on what i want.I think when you have a lot going on like the track you posted i would probably do a mixture of stabby sub hits and longer notes to complement each of the sounds you have going on.Like where you have the stabby wubs i would put stabby bass hits there then the high pitched lead sounds a few longer notes under there.In the end its what you think sounds good because your opinion is the only one that matters,if you don't like your own shit chances are other people won't either.Also make a note when adding sub make shore it don't clash with your kik or you will get unwanted mud.

[lyons238]

sub bass is usually 20-100hz. just create a sub bass patch and have it follow the same notes as your mid range basses but on a lower octave... sometimes if you want you also have it follow the same wobble rate by assigning an lfo to the volume.

[AndreiStephen]

right, right, thanks :O

so that was another one of my concerns :X but it's answered now, assigning the LFO to the volume*

thanks for bringing that up :")

[donpablo]

Just clone the massive wobble channel,and make it pure sine,with no shapers,fx etc.So it just will follow the movement of your wobbles.And always have a layer of sub if you want powerfull bass,glue them with eq,then compress

[lyons238]

right, right, thanks :O

so that was another one of my concerns :X but it's answered now, assigning the LFO to the volume*

thanks for bringing that up :")

yeah assigning lfo to cut off on sub bass doesnt really work since your working with such low frequencies...so assigning the lfo to volume will have the sub bass pulse just like your midrange wobbles.

good luck

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Dont forget also that a small amount of synched lfo on the sub's pitch works with some tracks as well.

[TheGreatDanerrr]

Not sure on what you're using to produce, but that's a great sound so far! Hmm.. IF you use FL studio try messing around with the 3xOsc a little bit. I have a bass I use whenever my wobbles are going I have the bass playing on that note just an octave lower and it sounds great and can hardly tell it's not part of the wobble.

[ShapeSHIFT]

Another thing to consider is keeping your sub powerful.

A sine sub has all of its energy on one frequency while other (saw, square, etc.) spread the power over many frequencies. Having all the energy on one frequency keeps the sub powerful.

The ADSR envelope of the sub can also be used to increase the apparent sub power. Set the decay level to zero and the attack level to full and play with the attack/decay time until the sub feels like a punchy kick drum. Bring the decay level up to 70-90% and there you go.

[Turnipish_Thoughts]

what are you using to mix on? To me it seems like you might be over(under?) compensating for bass in your tune, maybe what you're hearing it through has the bass boosted or something? As in not flat response. I can hear what you mean about there not being much going on in the low end of the register at all, it seems to be effecting your kick as well. Try listening to a reference mix, is the bass extremely heavy compared to your tune when played at the same settings? might be just me

For subs yeh just use a sine wave and follow whats already been said, subs are incredibly simple in comparison to other shit. A good tip is to also get hold of some bass guitar samples make a sub out of them, they have a much warmer analogue sound and a lot more character and edge than a pure sine. You could even cut a single wavelength out of the soundwave and loop it for sub, i know people do that trick with an 808 kick, just gives the sub more edge/presence.

Edit: http://www.dubstepforum.com/legend4ry-s ... 43648.html

[Teknicyde]

right, right, thanks :O

so that was another one of my concerns :X but it's answered now, assigning the LFO to the volume*

thanks for bringing that up :")

yeah assigning lfo to cut off on sub bass doesnt really work since your working with such low frequencies...so assigning the lfo to volume will have the sub bass pulse just like your midrange wobbles.

good luck

its not about being low frequency, its because sines are a single frequency, so before the cutoff hits that single freq, it will have no effect, and after it hits it, it will turn the volume down according to the DB per octave of your filter.