This has angered me greatly...quotes from a US 'dubstep' DJ

[Mr Hyde]

"Im a dancing musical troll, and I spin/mix/destroy/make sweet passionate love to tracks.
BOOKING? ILL DJ FOR ANY EVENT!! You can pay me in good times, ketamine, and/or cold hard cash."

I really want to punch him

[seckle]

realistically, there's probably, 500,000+ people in america, that caught on to dubstep in the last two years. a different wave and dose of the original strain of dubstep, and don't have the first clue about its connection and growth through the dark garage/2step/jungle era. there's americans i've talked to and asked regularly about their first experience with the sound, and over and over, its Caspa/Rusko/DoctorP/Borgore/Skrillex/Nero/Diplo, etc. This is how they first heard it. Now, that said, there's so many parties in america that play all styles within the sound, but generally the under 21 crowd that want a powerrave dubstep experience on a friday night in 2011, full of big drop after big drop, don't know, and don't care that there's an evolution to it. their barometer for bass music is the biggest drop at 140bpm. only a small percentage would probably delve further. this is just the cold hard reality. my experience here in nyc in the last 8 years of seeing parties, is that there's the same width of musical styles represented by different promoters, but again, most have never been to london enough nor listened to rinse and its evolution through 2003-2011. thats not to make their experience less valid or handicapped, but its a different experience. understand that you guys in the UK, grew up with an evolutionary dance culture, where one sound influenced another in a viral direct marriage. in america, unless you live in a big city, you either grow up with top40 pop, rock/metal or rap/rnb. we never had anything like the reggae/jungle/ hardcore continuum over here. jungle was a tiny scene relative to everything else in america. dubstep is the only real UK dance music export thats ever impacted america in such a large crossover way. even at the height of drum and bass in america, it never caught on the way dubstep has. go have a look at the north american east/west event sections, and you can see how big its become this year. in NYC or LA, its easy to sell out 1500-2500 capacity venues on a friday night. skream played a show in denver this summer for 14,000. you guys grew up on sound system culture in the UK. we have NOTHING resembling that here.

This isn't a discussion about what is/isn't Dubstep though - the genre is in fact largely irrelevant. If any DJ had said basically "Fuck turntables" and come across as a clueless & cash hungry, then it wouldn't have mattered if he was talking about Dubstep, house, trance or anything else. It's the attitude towards music/promoting in general that is the issue here, not the ethnicity or genre.

i recognize that, but you did create this thread singling out a US dj.

[antipode]

i want a hat that says MIDRANGE

any1 got embroidery skillz?

[Pedro Sánchez]

Did find this picture of him;

Sa Bad Man y'unnastan? I feel sorry for kids these days, their ignorance is overwhelming but that said, he needs man raping over an SL1210 while he's wearing the cap.

[DRTY]

but that's what the example happened to be Seckle. Lighten up, this quite clearly isn't an attack on your motherland

[djwanka]

Wanka Does Not Approve Small Downs Mate

[seckle]

but that's what the example happened to be Seckle. Lighten up, this quite clearly isn't an attack on your motherland

ffs, i'm not defending america, nor attacking the UK. people are so fucking ready to war on this forum lately about the UK/US thing. its unreal. fuck discussions about this i guess. flame war is the new thing now.

[O Tumma Tum Ladin]

realistically, there's probably, 500,000+ people in america, that caught on to dubstep in the last two years. a different wave and dose of the original strain of dubstep, and don't have the first clue about its connection and growth through the dark garage/2step/jungle era. there's americans i've talked to and asked regularly about their first experience with the sound, and over and over, its Caspa/Rusko/DoctorP/Borgore/Skrillex/Nero/Diplo, etc. This is how they first heard it. Now, that said, there's so many parties in america that play all styles within the sound, but generally the under 21 crowd that want a powerrave dubstep experience on a friday night in 2011, full of big drop after big drop, don't know, and don't care that there's an evolution to it. their barometer for bass music is the biggest drop at 140bpm. only a small percentage would probably delve further. this is just the cold hard reality. my experience here in nyc in the last 8 years of seeing parties, is that there's the same width of musical styles represented by different promoters, but again, most have never been to london enough nor listened to rinse and its evolution through 2003-2011. thats not to make their experience less valid or handicapped, but its a different experience. understand that you guys in the UK, grew up with an evolutionary dance culture, where one sound influenced another in a viral direct marriage. in america, unless you live in a big city, you either grow up with top40 pop, rock/metal or rap/rnb. we never had anything like the reggae/jungle/ hardcore continuum over here. jungle was a tiny scene relative to everything else in america. dubstep is the only real UK dance music export thats ever impacted america in such a large crossover way. even at the height of drum and bass in america, it never caught on the way dubstep has. go have a look at the north american east/west event sections, and you can see how big its become this year. in NYC or LA, its easy to sell out 1500-2500 capacity venues on a friday night. skream played a show in denver this summer for 14,000. you guys grew up on sound system culture in the UK. we have NOTHING resembling that here.

we get it America's a shit country to live in. you don't have to come in every thread to point it out though, ease off on the anti-American crusade.

[seckle]

realistically, there's probably, 500,000+ people in america, that caught on to dubstep in the last two years. a different wave and dose of the original strain of dubstep, and don't have the first clue about its connection and growth through the dark garage/2step/jungle era. there's americans i've talked to and asked regularly about their first experience with the sound, and over and over, its Caspa/Rusko/DoctorP/Borgore/Skrillex/Nero/Diplo, etc. This is how they first heard it. Now, that said, there's so many parties in america that play all styles within the sound, but generally the under 21 crowd that want a powerrave dubstep experience on a friday night in 2011, full of big drop after big drop, don't know, and don't care that there's an evolution to it. their barometer for bass music is the biggest drop at 140bpm. only a small percentage would probably delve further. this is just the cold hard reality. my experience here in nyc in the last 8 years of seeing parties, is that there's the same width of musical styles represented by different promoters, but again, most have never been to london enough nor listened to rinse and its evolution through 2003-2011. thats not to make their experience less valid or handicapped, but its a different experience. understand that you guys in the UK, grew up with an evolutionary dance culture, where one sound influenced another in a viral direct marriage. in america, unless you live in a big city, you either grow up with top40 pop, rock/metal or rap/rnb. we never had anything like the reggae/jungle/ hardcore continuum over here. jungle was a tiny scene relative to everything else in america. dubstep is the only real UK dance music export thats ever impacted america in such a large crossover way. even at the height of drum and bass in america, it never caught on the way dubstep has. go have a look at the north american east/west event sections, and you can see how big its become this year. in NYC or LA, its easy to sell out 1500-2500 capacity venues on a friday night. skream played a show in denver this summer for 14,000. you guys grew up on sound system culture in the UK. we have NOTHING resembling that here.

we get it America's a shit country to live in. you don't have to come in every thread to point it out though, ease off on the anti-American crusade.

"every" thread? lol. i don't blow hours of my day in snh, trust...

[ninthy4]

here's the tnuc https://www.facebook.com/DJPsychoDubstep

[wub]

realistically, there's probably, 500,000+ people in america, that caught on to dubstep in the last two years. a different wave and dose of the original strain of dubstep, and don't have the first clue about its connection and growth through the dark garage/2step/jungle era. there's americans i've talked to and asked regularly about their first experience with the sound, and over and over, its Caspa/Rusko/DoctorP/Borgore/Skrillex/Nero/Diplo, etc. This is how they first heard it. Now, that said, there's so many parties in america that play all styles within the sound, but generally the under 21 crowd that want a powerrave dubstep experience on a friday night in 2011, full of big drop after big drop, don't know, and don't care that there's an evolution to it. their barometer for bass music is the biggest drop at 140bpm. only a small percentage would probably delve further. this is just the cold hard reality. my experience here in nyc in the last 8 years of seeing parties, is that there's the same width of musical styles represented by different promoters, but again, most have never been to london enough nor listened to rinse and its evolution through 2003-2011. thats not to make their experience less valid or handicapped, but its a different experience. understand that you guys in the UK, grew up with an evolutionary dance culture, where one sound influenced another in a viral direct marriage. in america, unless you live in a big city, you either grow up with top40 pop, rock/metal or rap/rnb. we never had anything like the reggae/jungle/ hardcore continuum over here. jungle was a tiny scene relative to everything else in america. dubstep is the only real UK dance music export thats ever impacted america in such a large crossover way. even at the height of drum and bass in america, it never caught on the way dubstep has. go have a look at the north american east/west event sections, and you can see how big its become this year. in NYC or LA, its easy to sell out 1500-2500 capacity venues on a friday night. skream played a show in denver this summer for 14,000. you guys grew up on sound system culture in the UK. we have NOTHING resembling that here.

This isn't a discussion about what is/isn't Dubstep though - the genre is in fact largely irrelevant. If any DJ had said basically "Fuck turntables" and come across as a clueless & cash hungry, then it wouldn't have mattered if he was talking about Dubstep, house, trance or anything else. It's the attitude towards music/promoting in general that is the issue here, not the ethnicity or genre.

i recognize that, but you did create this thread singling out a US dj.

And I've since qualified that to say that genre/ethnicity doesn't matter. It wasn't even an issue unti you brought it up, tbf.

[Mr Hyde]

realistically, there's probably, 500,000+ people in america, that caught on to dubstep in the last two years. a different wave and dose of the original strain of dubstep, and don't have the first clue about its connection and growth through the dark garage/2step/jungle era. there's americans i've talked to and asked regularly about their first experience with the sound, and over and over, its Caspa/Rusko/DoctorP/Borgore/Skrillex/Nero/Diplo, etc. This is how they first heard it. Now, that said, there's so many parties in america that play all styles within the sound, but generally the under 21 crowd that want a powerrave dubstep experience on a friday night in 2011, full of big drop after big drop, don't know, and don't care that there's an evolution to it. their barometer for bass music is the biggest drop at 140bpm. only a small percentage would probably delve further. this is just the cold hard reality. my experience here in nyc in the last 8 years of seeing parties, is that there's the same width of musical styles represented by different promoters, but again, most have never been to london enough nor listened to rinse and its evolution through 2003-2011. thats not to make their experience less valid or handicapped, but its a different experience. understand that you guys in the UK, grew up with an evolutionary dance culture, where one sound influenced another in a viral direct marriage. in america, unless you live in a big city, you either grow up with top40 pop, rock/metal or rap/rnb. we never had anything like the reggae/jungle/ hardcore continuum over here. jungle was a tiny scene relative to everything else in america. dubstep is the only real UK dance music export thats ever impacted america in such a large crossover way. even at the height of drum and bass in america, it never caught on the way dubstep has. go have a look at the north american east/west event sections, and you can see how big its become this year. in NYC or LA, its easy to sell out 1500-2500 capacity venues on a friday night. skream played a show in denver this summer for 14,000. you guys grew up on sound system culture in the UK. we have NOTHING resembling that here.

we get it America's a shit country to live in. you don't have to come in every thread to point it out though, ease off on the anti-American crusade.

"every" thread? lol. i don't blow hours of my day in snh, trust...

haha, are you taking the piss/belittling that people 'waste time' on a forum that you moderate?!? (looking at length of post, post count and time since joining)

[O Tumma Tum Ladin]

realistically, there's probably, 500,000+ people in america, that caught on to dubstep in the last two years. a different wave and dose of the original strain of dubstep, and don't have the first clue about its connection and growth through the dark garage/2step/jungle era. there's americans i've talked to and asked regularly about their first experience with the sound, and over and over, its Caspa/Rusko/DoctorP/Borgore/Skrillex/Nero/Diplo, etc. This is how they first heard it. Now, that said, there's so many parties in america that play all styles within the sound, but generally the under 21 crowd that want a powerrave dubstep experience on a friday night in 2011, full of big drop after big drop, don't know, and don't care that there's an evolution to it. their barometer for bass music is the biggest drop at 140bpm. only a small percentage would probably delve further. this is just the cold hard reality. my experience here in nyc in the last 8 years of seeing parties, is that there's the same width of musical styles represented by different promoters, but again, most have never been to london enough nor listened to rinse and its evolution through 2003-2011. thats not to make their experience less valid or handicapped, but its a different experience. understand that you guys in the UK, grew up with an evolutionary dance culture, where one sound influenced another in a viral direct marriage. in america, unless you live in a big city, you either grow up with top40 pop, rock/metal or rap/rnb. we never had anything like the reggae/jungle/ hardcore continuum over here. jungle was a tiny scene relative to everything else in america. dubstep is the only real UK dance music export thats ever impacted america in such a large crossover way. even at the height of drum and bass in america, it never caught on the way dubstep has. go have a look at the north american east/west event sections, and you can see how big its become this year. in NYC or LA, its easy to sell out 1500-2500 capacity venues on a friday night. skream played a show in denver this summer for 14,000. you guys grew up on sound system culture in the UK. we have NOTHING resembling that here.

we get it America's a shit country to live in. you don't have to come in every thread to point it out though, ease off on the anti-American crusade.

"every" thread? lol. i don't blow hours of my day in snh, trust...

ok maybe every thread was an exaggeration it's just that from my visits America isn't the sprawling industrial theme park populated entirely by overweight children you make it out to be.

[seckle]

realistically, there's probably, 500,000+ people in america, that caught on to dubstep in the last two years. a different wave and dose of the original strain of dubstep, and don't have the first clue about its connection and growth through the dark garage/2step/jungle era. there's americans i've talked to and asked regularly about their first experience with the sound, and over and over, its Caspa/Rusko/DoctorP/Borgore/Skrillex/Nero/Diplo, etc. This is how they first heard it. Now, that said, there's so many parties in america that play all styles within the sound, but generally the under 21 crowd that want a powerrave dubstep experience on a friday night in 2011, full of big drop after big drop, don't know, and don't care that there's an evolution to it. their barometer for bass music is the biggest drop at 140bpm. only a small percentage would probably delve further. this is just the cold hard reality. my experience here in nyc in the last 8 years of seeing parties, is that there's the same width of musical styles represented by different promoters, but again, most have never been to london enough nor listened to rinse and its evolution through 2003-2011. thats not to make their experience less valid or handicapped, but its a different experience. understand that you guys in the UK, grew up with an evolutionary dance culture, where one sound influenced another in a viral direct marriage. in america, unless you live in a big city, you either grow up with top40 pop, rock/metal or rap/rnb. we never had anything like the reggae/jungle/ hardcore continuum over here. jungle was a tiny scene relative to everything else in america. dubstep is the only real UK dance music export thats ever impacted america in such a large crossover way. even at the height of drum and bass in america, it never caught on the way dubstep has. go have a look at the north american east/west event sections, and you can see how big its become this year. in NYC or LA, its easy to sell out 1500-2500 capacity venues on a friday night. skream played a show in denver this summer for 14,000. you guys grew up on sound system culture in the UK. we have NOTHING resembling that here.

we get it America's a shit country to live in. you don't have to come in every thread to point it out though, ease off on the anti-American crusade.

"every" thread? lol. i don't blow hours of my day in snh, trust...

ok maybe every thread was an exaggeration it's just that from my visits America isn't the sprawling industrial theme park populated entirely by overweight children you make it out to be.

I've never said anything about theme parks or big kids. wtf are you talking about?

[seckle]

realistically, there's probably, 500,000+ people in america, that caught on to dubstep in the last two years. a different wave and dose of the original strain of dubstep, and don't have the first clue about its connection and growth through the dark garage/2step/jungle era. there's americans i've talked to and asked regularly about their first experience with the sound, and over and over, its Caspa/Rusko/DoctorP/Borgore/Skrillex/Nero/Diplo, etc. This is how they first heard it. Now, that said, there's so many parties in america that play all styles within the sound, but generally the under 21 crowd that want a powerrave dubstep experience on a friday night in 2011, full of big drop after big drop, don't know, and don't care that there's an evolution to it. their barometer for bass music is the biggest drop at 140bpm. only a small percentage would probably delve further. this is just the cold hard reality. my experience here in nyc in the last 8 years of seeing parties, is that there's the same width of musical styles represented by different promoters, but again, most have never been to london enough nor listened to rinse and its evolution through 2003-2011. thats not to make their experience less valid or handicapped, but its a different experience. understand that you guys in the UK, grew up with an evolutionary dance culture, where one sound influenced another in a viral direct marriage. in america, unless you live in a big city, you either grow up with top40 pop, rock/metal or rap/rnb. we never had anything like the reggae/jungle/ hardcore continuum over here. jungle was a tiny scene relative to everything else in america. dubstep is the only real UK dance music export thats ever impacted america in such a large crossover way. even at the height of drum and bass in america, it never caught on the way dubstep has. go have a look at the north american east/west event sections, and you can see how big its become this year. in NYC or LA, its easy to sell out 1500-2500 capacity venues on a friday night. skream played a show in denver this summer for 14,000. you guys grew up on sound system culture in the UK. we have NOTHING resembling that here.

we get it America's a shit country to live in. you don't have to come in every thread to point it out though, ease off on the anti-American crusade.

"every" thread? lol. i don't blow hours of my day in snh, trust...

haha, are you taking the piss/belittling that people 'waste time' on a forum that you moderate?!? (looking at length of post, post count and time since joining)

i make a comment on maybe 2 threads a week in here, and this guys going on like i'm in every thread.

[ascent]

I don't know why but I'm raging so hard at that guy

[__________]

i make a comment on maybe 2 threads a week in here, and this guys going on like i'm in every thread.

Stop whinging and go lock some funny threads in the main forum.

[O Tumma Tum Ladin]

realistically, there's probably, 500,000+ people in america, that caught on to dubstep in the last two years. a different wave and dose of the original strain of dubstep, and don't have the first clue about its connection and growth through the dark garage/2step/jungle era. there's americans i've talked to and asked regularly about their first experience with the sound, and over and over, its Caspa/Rusko/DoctorP/Borgore/Skrillex/Nero/Diplo, etc. This is how they first heard it. Now, that said, there's so many parties in america that play all styles within the sound, but generally the under 21 crowd that want a powerrave dubstep experience on a friday night in 2011, full of big drop after big drop, don't know, and don't care that there's an evolution to it. their barometer for bass music is the biggest drop at 140bpm. only a small percentage would probably delve further. this is just the cold hard reality. my experience here in nyc in the last 8 years of seeing parties, is that there's the same width of musical styles represented by different promoters, but again, most have never been to london enough nor listened to rinse and its evolution through 2003-2011. thats not to make their experience less valid or handicapped, but its a different experience. understand that you guys in the UK, grew up with an evolutionary dance culture, where one sound influenced another in a viral direct marriage. in america, unless you live in a big city, you either grow up with top40 pop, rock/metal or rap/rnb. we never had anything like the reggae/jungle/ hardcore continuum over here. jungle was a tiny scene relative to everything else in america. dubstep is the only real UK dance music export thats ever impacted america in such a large crossover way. even at the height of drum and bass in america, it never caught on the way dubstep has. go have a look at the north american east/west event sections, and you can see how big its become this year. in NYC or LA, its easy to sell out 1500-2500 capacity venues on a friday night. skream played a show in denver this summer for 14,000. you guys grew up on sound system culture in the UK. we have NOTHING resembling that here.

we get it America's a shit country to live in. you don't have to come in every thread to point it out though, ease off on the anti-American crusade.

"every" thread? lol. i don't blow hours of my day in snh, trust...

ok maybe every thread was an exaggeration it's just that from my visits America isn't the sprawling industrial theme park populated entirely by overweight children you make it out to be.

I've never said anything about theme parks or big kids. wtf are you talking about?

[wilson]

Way to drag the thread off topic, seckle.

Anyway, I guess you could call this guy a 3rd generation dubstepper. He probably hasn't the faintest about the roots or history of the genre, which would go some way to explaining his disregard for vinyl culture. He'd probably struggle to explain what a 'dubplate' is, as those concepts don't come into his perception of what dubstep is.

It is easy to get pretty pissed off with his general attitude towards the scene and his way of promoting and putting on events. But it's largely out of ignorance, so you gotta understand that he just doesn't think like a lot of people here do, and has different priorities.

That being said, he does come off as a pillock of the highest order.

[noam]

*waits for response from seckle about 'dubstep' being in the title of thread in quotation marks*

waits for noam's knee-jerk response about americans.

i love america

i think you're a tnuc tho