Spor, Noisia, koan sound type twisting bass

[Earjax]

Awesome! Sounding nice on the higher notes sine, lower notes sound like your saws need a bit of a change in their WT position and intensity (or pulse width if your using PWM)

[Sine69]

Awesome! Sounding nice on the higher notes sine, lower notes sound like your saws need a bit of a change in their WT position and intensity (or pulse width if your using PWM)

Haha thanks man. My mom walked into my room while I was working on it and she told me it made her feel physically sick to her stomach - so mission accomplished

[RmoniK]

A hoover is not detuned square waves, that's still a reese. A hoover is just PWM.

[efence]

a hoover is detuned square waves with a pitch envelope on goin bwwoooommm (up then down)

What, people still confuse hoovers with reeses? A reese with square waves is still a reese. A hover is a Square(actually pulse) wave with Pulse width modulation.

actually a saw with pulse width, which was rare til virtual synth. This was why the juno alpha was so sought after for a while becuase it was the only synth to create the sound with that distinct classic hoover texture. plus the old roland chorous was had a very unique sound too.

[Rydher]

What I read in an interview with Noisia was that they rarely ever used synths. They said they record actual sounds in their surroundings, and then sample them over and over.

[Earjax]

they do do that ^ they use reaktor and kore instruments also though

[bassinine]

oh, i forgot to say this:

noisa is always combing white noise (as well as automating the COLOR of the white noise), and saturating at least 10-15db with analogue style saturation. band rejects with high resonance and automation will really morph the sound as well by adding shifting harmonics.

[axolotl-dubstep]

Obviously theres gonna be a heck of a lot of resampling and distortion involved, however I'm really interested in how to start it off in massive for example, and to get the right kinda dynamics that give it the kind of twisting morphing sound, as it obviously isn't just a lowpass and a comb going on here.
Example: at 2:00
I would post this on 'that sound' thread as per usual but it seems to have gone dead, maybe a november thread is needed wub?

Awesome bass noisia, everyone is getting over complicated you don't need to resample over and over, heck you only need to bounce once at times, but you do need to apply fx ( resample ) to bef it up just some simple lfo, env modulation especially filter modulation, notches sweeping through sound sometimes gives that moving feel, I'm not sure exactly what bass your referring to as I can't load anything at the moment, but here is a bass I made just now, is somewhat like Noisia Contact ( Noisia Remix)
99% the same as my ears think so, check it

http://www.mediafire.com/?weffd28pct5958a

[Earjax]

Thats not really anywhere near, has none of the harmonics, just sounds like a distorted mess to me

[misk]

it's pretty easy to sculpt the harmonics and distortion you want with FM8. I know people go on and on about it, but you'd be suprised how great FM8 is for those kind of sounds. It's not noisia per se, but who cares? if it sounds gnarly, it's gnarly.

[ehbes]

I've been playing with the Phase Modulation in Thor and then automating like 3 notches and scream 4 body all at the same time.. gives kind of a koan sound...sound

[RmoniK]

I've been playing with the Phase Modulation in Thor and then automating like 3 notches and scream 4 body all at the same time.. gives kind of a koan sound...sound

[ehbes]

I've been playing with the Phase Modulation in Thor and then automating like 3 notches and scream 4 body all at the same time.. gives kind of a koan sound...sound

I don't see the humor....

[Earjax]

lol, yeah phase distortion (the logic plug) also works great, so maybe I'll look into phasing a lot deeper see if I can create a phase distortion myself

[Dystinkt]

not meaning to hijack the thread and be controversial, but i really think this kind of sounds getting overdone atm in dubstep, i love dungeon but i think the market for its getting saturated right now

[ephyks]

not meaning to hijack the thread and be controversial, but i really think this kind of sounds getting overdone atm in dubstep, i love dungeon but i think the market for its getting saturated right now

I disagree.

Only a handful of producers can do the twisting reese bass properly.

This level of sound design is hard to accomplish and therefore not every single shitty producer can get anything close to this intense sound. Not enough people are doing this in my opinion. Also, reese basses are absolutely the next step in dubstep. Until some simple vst comes out like massive that is built for only reese basses and every producer gets their hands on one and starts producing these sounds.

Cause now all of these producer have caught up with what the best producers on all levels of production. The only thing that separates us is our sound design. The cycle rinses and repeats every 2 years. I bet will be looking back on Koan & Noisia and reminisce the days of when dubstep was good until everyone caught up and started making shit.

[Ghost of Muttley]

not meaning to hijack the thread and be controversial, but i really think this kind of sounds getting overdone atm in dubstep, i love dungeon but i think the market for its getting saturated right now

when have any of the three artists in the title made something you'd consider 'dungeon dubstep'?

[Dystinkt]

not meaning to hijack the thread and be controversial, but i really think this kind of sounds getting overdone atm in dubstep, i love dungeon but i think the market for its getting saturated right now

when have any of the three artists in the title made something you'd consider 'dungeon dubstep'?

none of those have, but i didnt have them in mind, i was more thinking of kryptic minds etc, i think people are seriously jacking that sound right now, theres a load of producers who make dungeon and it all sounds indistinguishable from one another in my eyes ( or ears to be more accurate)

[Earjax]

Sorry man your complaining on the wrong thread, this is the thread you should be posting on: http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=240
And anyways I totally disagree for the same reason as ephyks did, the sounds in dungeon are insanely hard to make, and each producer has their own style of doing it. You could tell a badklaat track apart from a jakes track anyday for example

[hasezwei]

lol, yeah phase distortion (the logic plug) also works great, so maybe I'll look into phasing a lot deeper see if I can create a phase distortion myself

that plug is so sick, i still miss it from the ol' logic days. does anyone know a vst alternative? there has to be one.