alex jones worshippers. this is for you. MASSIVE rant.

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:28 pm

heh yeah that is a reaction i am used to

i very often will speak unflinchingly about aliens

i truly believe they are all around us

and i'm not nuts

doomstep · Post by **doomstep** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:29 pm

Parson wrote:there is real fucked up shit going on

This we can agree on, but without any grounding in history & politics the way that Jones goes about doin what hes doin, hes, imo, doing more harm than good.

And its because there is fucked shit going on that we NEED ideas more than info. Alex Jones & his ilk seem more interested in a neverending info-stream as it distracts from the task at hand;

the future.

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:30 pm

watch this one day when you feel like you gotta couple hours to try to debunk me cuz i think if you got half an inkling of free thought left it will fuck you up
http://video.google.com/url?docid=-1166 ... 7Pz2D3mVsg

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:31 pm

just think of jones as like kindergarden or pre-school

he's an alarm clock

once you get past him, there is plenty of other stuff to move onto.

doomstep · Post by **doomstep** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:33 pm

I aint tryna debunk you bro, itsa a disscussion, you know, you disscuss, ideas go back n fwd etc.

I'll bookmark that bit,

Just cos I dont believe the exact same things you do, dont make my thoughts any less free would be a wierd kinda free if it did yh?

pre-school.

you dont know me, or where Im coming from.

& I aint puttin a dot point programme ona forum

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:39 pm

you're the one callin me nuts

that is imo a very common reaction from people who have been indoctrinated to think a certain way and the knee-jerk reaction to people like me is to mock us and claim we're insane.

hence the "free thought" jab

doomstep · Post by **doomstep** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:43 pm

Parson wrote:you're the one callin me nuts

that is imo a very common reaction from people who have been indoctrinated to think a certain way and the knee-jerk reaction to people like me is to mock us and claim we're insane.

hence the "free thought" jab

Where did I call you nuts tho? Did I mock you?

The line about immersion and illusions to a single truth are troubling to me, but certainlly dont make you nuts, neither does thinkin aliens exist.

Trust me bro, I kno nuts people, I've grown up around nuts people - proper nuts people, you are most DEF. not nuts, far from it.

In the end I think there is prob more comman ground between us than either of us would admit

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:44 pm

doomstep wrote: Helter Skelter is comin down fassst

what did you mean to communicate with this then

doomstep · Post by **doomstep** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:47 pm

Just that words your usin, which may or may not indicate where yr at, are as I say, worrying to me.

To me, free thinking is avoiding 'immersion' & 'complete truths'

being immersed & in touch with a complete truth is very dangerous to freedom, mine, yours, everybodies freedom.

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:47 pm

i feel ya

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:50 pm

still a holistic approach to understanding, incomplete as it may be, is the only way to be

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:12 pm

doomstep wrote:pre-school.

you dont know me, or where Im coming from.

you seem to be confused by my usage of the word "you"

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:37 pm

that is imo a very common reaction from people who have been indoctrinated to think a certain way and the knee-jerk reaction to people like me is to mock us and claim we're insane.

and the knee jerk reaction of people who buy into this sort of thing is to call the person challenging them "indoctrinated".

there's plenty of misinformation that doesn't follow the 'party line' so to speak

will watch your link after work. you should watch Eugene Jarecki's Why We Fight (it's in 4 parts on youtube, it was on google video in one long file but i can't seem to find it)

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:38 pm

and and btw nobody's trying to debunk you or insult your intelligence, it's all in the name of healthy debate

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:44 pm

its not a matter of buying into anything

the amount of evidence is so overwhelming that to ignore it or dismiss it is irrational and akin to stuffing your fingers in your ears and yelling la la la

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:44 pm

pk- wrote: you should watch Eugene Jarecki's Why We Fight (it's in 4 parts on youtube, it was on google video in one long file but i can't seem to find it)

not that it's going to change your mind about things, it's just a really interesting/disturbing film

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:50 pm

doomstep wrote: Over-information - or the pornography of truth has long been a tactic in keeping people spectators.

truth, however it is my opinion that the execution of this tactic can be seen in the entirety of the global political charade

attrition warfare

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:52 pm

pk- wrote:
pk- wrote: you should watch Eugene Jarecki's Why We Fight (it's in 4 parts on youtube, it was on google video in one long file but i can't seem to find it)
not that it's going to change your mind about things, it's just a really interesting/disturbing film

look fella i've seen lord of war. this ain't my first rodeo

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:21 pm

that's what i meant by my second post

i didn't mean 'if you think x then watch y', it was just an aside

parson · Post by **parson** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:25 pm

yeah important info regardless

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